2011-12 NFL Season

[satjay]

Getting ready for tonights Monday night game for the lions. Looking toward to also seeing nick farley getting in to already deep defensive line!

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[cybok0]

Yes but big ben didnt come into the game in the 3rd qtr already down by 16 points.. Not to mention Big Ben just played last week.. Where as Tebow has not played in how many months? I mean the Tebow haters can hate all they want but the FACTS on the field say it all.. When Tebow came into the game the entire game changed. He had a higher QB rating then Orton, and even a star like Ben. He even came within 1 throw of winning the game, even scambling keeping the final play alive for almost 10 seconds dodging defenders and still managed to get the last throw off, but it was not caught. Orton would of been sacked after the first 5 seconds. As he is not much of a scambler. Tebow gave the Broncos the best chance to win, and its about time the Broncos coaches stop listening to the BS and look at the facts on the field.

All of that is nice but did he win? No, this is a league of wins and losses, not almost or should have. You people put down Ben but let's face it there is only one QB that is playing now with more superbowl wins than Ben and that's Brady. When other QBs pass him in superbowl wins then say something.

 

[yaz96]

All of that is nice but did he win? No, this is a league of wins and losses, not almost or should have. You people put down Ben but let's face it there is only one QB that is playing now with more superbowl wins than Ben and that's Brady. When other QBs pass him in superbowl wins then say something.

NOBODY put down Ben. I referenced Ben's passer rating to compare to Tebow, only because Jimbo said a starter wouldn't have a 40% completion rate, so I compared OVERALL rating, and Tebow's was 20 points higher than Ben's, and he started, didn't he?.

Tebow only played a half, so you can't say he didn't win the game. Not saying he would have if he played the whole thing. But, let's not put him down until you can compare games fairly.

 

[The Insider]

All of that is nice but did he win? No, this is a league of wins and losses, not almost or should have. You people put down Ben but let's face it there is only one QB that is playing now with more superbowl wins than Ben and that's Brady. When other QBs pass him in superbowl wins then say something.

Dont think anyone is saying Ben was a bad qb? or even that Tebow was a "better" QB. Simply comparing the two on this weeks performance for those who say his stats sucked.

 

[Jimbo]

NOBODY put down Ben. I referenced Ben's passer rating to compare to Tebow, only because Jimbo said a starter wouldn't have a 40% completion rate, so I compared OVERALL rating, and Tebow's was 20 points higher than Ben's, and he started, didn't he?.

Tebow only played a half, so you can't say he didn't win the game. Not saying he would have if he played the whole thing. But, let's not put him down until you can compare games fairly.

Ben 's Completion rate is WAY higher than 40%, why did you decide to compare non comparable stats ?
I never said ANYTHING about the stupid QB passer rating, the one that no one has a clue how it works.

Furthermore, I never brought up Ben, some other jealous poster did.

 

[Jimbo]

Dont think anyone is saying Ben was a bad qb? or even that Tebow was a "better" QB. Simply comparing the two on this weeks performance for those who say his stats sucked.

Problem is, your comparing two DIFFERENT stats ... I said a 40% completion passer will never make it in ther NFL, then someone threw in QB Rating which there is no way to determine.

 

[The Insider]

Problem is, your comparing two DIFFERENT stats ... I said a 40% completion passer will never make it in ther NFL, then someone threw in QB Rating which there is no way to determine.

Yes but your talking 40% based on 1 and 3/4 of a quarter played, after having not played a snap in how many months? Watch that game, and tell me between the two half's which player you want on your starter? Who do you want scrambling in the pocket to make plays happen? Both his TDs on sun were earned because of him. His short screen pass to K.M was under heavy pressure and knowing he was going to be killed, and he was. Orton in that situation usually runs and hides. His rushing TD was right through the defense of the team who is leading the division..

in 2 weeks Tebow will start against Miami.. He will have an outstanding game and lead the team to victory.. But everyone will still doubt him because Miami sucks.. The week after he will play a surprisingly great Lions team and lose and everyone will say told ya so... Regardless of the fact how much better overall as a team the Lions are then the broncos.. But the week after that when the raiders meet the Broncos and they win, will the people finally say Tebow can make it as a NFL qb?

 

[Jimbo]

Yes but your talking 40% based on 1 and 3/4 of a quarter played, after having not played a snap in how many months? Watch that game, and tell me between the two half's which player you want on your starter? Who do you want scrambling in the pocket to make plays happen? Both his TDs on sun were earned because of him. His short screen pass to K.M was under heavy pressure and knowing he was going to be killed, and he was. Orton in that situation usually runs and hides. His rushing TD was right through the defense of the team who is leading the division..

in 2 weeks Tebow will start against Miami.. He will have an outstanding game and lead the team to victory.. But everyone will still doubt him because Miami sucks.. The week after he will play a surprisingly great Lions team and lose and everyone will say told ya so... Regardless of the fact how much better overall as a team the Lions are then the broncos.. But the week after that when the raiders meet the Broncos and they win, will the people finally say Tebow can make it as a NFL qb?

I simply looked at the stats and saw he was 4 for 10.
Thats all, never said anything bad about him.
Personally, I like him, hope he does well.

 

[salsadancer7]

As much as I likw Tebow, the person, Tebow the QB, he has not done enough to merit being in the same breath as Big Ben. Personally, John Fox has no choice but to give into the fans, regardless of how good either Quinn or Orton may look in practice. Also, the organization traded UP to get him...you might as well put him in because the Broncos are not going to the playoffs...got to see what he has as a starting QB in a long period of time to see if he is your future.

Right now, the Broncos look dumb for not taking the Dolphins offer earlier in the year for Orton....and the the Dolphins look smart by not taking the offer because Henne has out played Orton.

At least that is how I see it.

 

[Rey]

Who Brady?

Yes sir

Based on what I've see from the Jets so far, I'm not afraid of Gang Green.

what bill said !

 

[Jimbo]

As much as I like Tebow, the person, Tebow the QB, has not done to merit being in the same breath as Big Ben.

Thank You ....

Somehow Tebow is a polished Super Bowl winning QB ...

 

[Hart5150]

Thank You ....

Somehow Tebow is a polished Super Bowl winning QB ...

And who has said that?

 

[salsadancer7]

...But the week after that when the raiders meet the Broncos and they win, will the people finally say Tebow can make it as a NFL qb?

Hhhhmmm...we shall see....LMAO! I am curious as to why you think they will beat the Raiders? In Oakland?

 

[Jimbo]

And who has said that?

Sure sounds like it ....

How can you possibly compare Ben to Tebow and take Tebow ?

 

[SabresRule]

The Jets still have the best defense in the division, and the Patriots still have the best team in the division.Have the Bills improved? Absolutely. But let's see where the Bills are after say, Week 12 before we make any parade plans.

I'm not saying Buffalo's gonna win the AFC East. I'm just saying the Jets-Bills games should be a little more even and that Gang Green is not a lock in those games.

 

[salsadancer7]

I'm not saying Buffalo's gonna win the AFC East. I'm just saying the Jets-Bills games should be a little more even and that Gang Green is not a lock in those games.

I can agree with that. They, to me, are not the same team as last year.

 

[BillD1984]

I'm not saying Buffalo's gonna win the AFC East.

Good, now you won't be disappointed.

 

[riffjim4069]

The refs are now calling tackling penalties...

 

[yaz96]

Ben 's Completion rate is WAY higher than 40%, why did you decide to compare non comparable stats ?
I never said ANYTHING about the stupid QB passer rating, the one that no one has a clue how it works.

Furthermore, I never brought up Ben, some other jealous poster did.

Jealous??

that's just dumb...

 

[yaz96]

As much as I likw Tebow, the person, Tebow the QB, he has not done enough to merit being in the same breath as Big Ben. It was ONLY a one game stats comparison, because of Jimbo's post. Last I checked, you CAN do that.

Personally, John Fox has no choice but to give into the fans, regardless of how good either Quinn or Orton may look in practice.THIS is not happening, if you believe it you are a fool

Also, the organization traded UP to get him...you might as well put him in because the Broncos are not going to the playoffs...got to see what he has as a starting QB in a long period of time to see if he is your future.THIS is more realistic

Right now, the Broncos look dumb for not taking the Dolphins offer earlier in the year for Orton....and the the Dolphins look smart by not taking the offer because Henne has out played Orton.THIS is not how it happened. According to Schefter, there was a $27mil/3yr deal that was ready to go, that the owner of the Fins nixed

At least that is how I see it.

We STILL might see a Orton vs. Tebow game in 2 weeks!