MLB 2013 Season

[DodgerKing]

Not that I am expecting the Dodgers to win when their only starter with a losing record and a high ERA is pitching, but how does a team only score 4 runs through 6 innings on 12 hits and 5 walks. 18 people get on base, average of 3 per inning, and only 4 of them score. They deserve to lose this game for that stat alone.

 

[pro96]

Puig in the game.. :

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[DodgerKing]

And Puig HRs to give them the lead

 

[KCK_Halo]

And Puig HRs to give them the lead

F&$)((ING incredible


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[pro96]

Guy is SICK

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[KCK_Halo]

And Puig HRs to give them the lead

Who named him "Wild Horse"? Was it Vinny? If so it is so correct...he is as unpredictable a player as I have ever seen!


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[DodgerKing]

Who named him "Wild Horse"? Was it Vinny? If so it is so correct...he is as unpredictable a player as I have ever seen!

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The problem is, his wildness both hurts and helps the team. Fortunately is has help more than it hurt so far. Hopefully as he learns he does more of the fundamentals correctly.

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[pro96]

Puig helps to snap the "rare" 2 game losing streak for the Blue Crew.

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[AntAltMike]

Puig is a genuine make-it-happen guy, and as long as he hits .350 with a home run per every 25 at-bats, he'll be a net plus no matter how much he screws up, but I still find it amazing that his production projects to only 67 RBI over 162 games. I had commented on that a month ago, when the interval of his play was much smaller than it is now, but I didn't really expect that paltry RBI incidence to hold up. That is Rick Monday/ early Dwight Evans RBI stuff.

 

[AntAltMike]

Following up on that, I see that his RBI production has gotten much worse, even though he has gotten more favorable RBI spots in the batting order.

I haven't been following this Puig thing, except here, but I see that his run production, if extrapolated to 162 games, would only be 106 runs scored and 113 RBI, which is nice, and most years in the top ten, but how can he produce that little with a .427 batting average?

I went back and looked at some of his games. Looks like he has been batting 1st or 2nd most games. Not usually many RBI opportunities hitting in that spot. He's been great to this point. The one thing he hasn't done much is walk. Only three times in 23 games. That could be an issue as time goes along.

Because he bats 1 and 2 in the lineup. He doesn't have many RBI opportunities, especially in the NL batting after the pitcher. Even more important is that most of those RBIs are clutch. Most of them tied or gave them the lead.

I now see that after having gotten just 14 RBI in his first 89 at bats through June 27, when I had first observed his relatively low RBI production for a .400+ hitter (and NINE of those fourteen had come in his first four games), his RBI production has dropped into Matty Alou territory in spite of being moved down in the batting order. He has since gotten just 12 RBI in his next 172 at bats. I clicked open a few July box scores and he didn't bat leadoff in any of them, and then, when I sampled his August production, I clicked open five box scores for that month and he batted fourth, behind Gonzalez, in three of those and second in the other two, and yet, going into last night's game, he only had gotten 2 RBI in 57 at bats in his previous 15 games. How can that even be possible?

 

[KCK_Halo]

I love this quote about Yasiel from Mattingly:

"He's not really a problem, just a lot of stuff happens. He really isn't."

 

[DodgerKing]

Puig is a genuine make-it-happen guy, and as long as he hits .350 with a home run per every 25 at-bats, he'll be a net plus no matter how much he screws up, but I still find it amazing that his production projects to only 67 RBI over 162 games. I had commented on that a month ago, when the interval of his play was much smaller than it is now, but I didn't really expect that paltry RBI incidence to hold up. That is Rick Monday/ early Dwight Evans RBI stuff.

He is batting in the top of the lineup, not the middle.

 

[DodgerKing]

Following up on that, I see that his RBI production has gotten much worse, even though he has gotten more favorable RBI spots in the batting order.

No he hasn't. He has a total of 48 AB batting 4th and 207 ABs batting 2nd or 1st.

I now see that after having gotten just 14 RBI in his first 89 at bats throough June 27, when I had first observed his relatively low RBI production for a .400+ hitter (and NINE of those fourteen had come in his first four games), his RBI production has dropped into Matty Alou territority in spite of being moved down in the batting order. He has since gotten just 12 RBI in his next 172 at bats. I clicked open a few July box scores and he didn't bat leadoff in any of them, and then, when I sampled his August production, I clicked open five box scores for that month and he batted fourth, behind Gonzalez, in three of those and second in the other two, and yet, going into last night's game, he only had gotten 2 RBI in 57 at bats in his previous 15 games. How can that even be possible?

He's been batting second all year. He only batted 4th during the short time Ramirez was out. Gonzalez batted in most of the guys before he had a chance and then clogged up the bases once he got on or he was intentionally walked.

I don't know how many other ways to explain this. He's a top of the order guy. Batting in the top of the lineup does not produce many RBI opportunities. Look how many times he has come up with nobody on vs somebody on. If you watched those games when he batted 4th. He was intentionally walked a lot when people were in scoring position. The Rays walked him intentionally 3 times in one game alone.

Batting 4th is average is .396, higher than it is batting 2nd. His OBP is .500 batting 4th, because he walks a lot. They don't let him drive in the runs.

 

[AntAltMike]

Puig has driven in 16 out of 149 runners. Under 11%. I haven't ever analyzed RBI driven in percentage, but I don't think that is very good.


Here's an RBI calculator tool I found:
http://www.baseballmusings.com/cgi-...tField=OnRBI.RunnersOn&SortDir=desc&MinPA=100

 

[DodgerKing]

Puig has driven in 16 out of 149 runners. Under 11%. I haven't ever analyzed RBI driven in percentage, but I don't think that is very good.


Here's an RBI calculator tool I found:
http://www.baseballmusings.com/cgi-...tField=OnRBI.RunnersOn&SortDir=desc&MinPA=100

For the 5th time. He is a top of the order guy, not a middle of the order guy. He sparks and gets things going. That is what top of the order guys are supposed to do. There is a reason why people bat in certain spots in the lineup and it is that reason he bats 2nd and not in the middle.

The only reason he was batting cleanup is because both of their cleanup hitters (Kemp and Ramirez) were or are injured and they have nobody else to do so.S

Sort it by RBI % and in "general" look at those on the top compared to the bottom and see where they bat in the order (of course there are exceptions). Also, look at the Dodger that is in the top group. One that many on here have been criticizing.

 

[BillD1984]

Last night in SF was not exactly John Farrell's finest moment as Red Sox manager.

 

[AntAltMike]

I just did a tally, and see that of the 265 players who have had as many or more RBI opportunities, 222 have driven in a higher percentage of baserunners, whereas only 42 have driven in a lower percentage than has Puig, and in my judgement, only one of those players is going to get into the Hall of Fame.

 

[DodgerKing]

BTW, who is the best lead off hitter of all time? Most would say Henderson. And the dude had a lot of power as well. He could have batted in the middle of the lineup because of his power. His career average of driving in runners was 14%, this is lower than the league average. Some years his success rate was under 10%. There is a reason why he batted in the top of the lineup instead of the middle.

Puig is similar to Henderson in many ways. He is more aggressive than Henderson when batting. Puig also has a much stronger arm that Henderson, but that is a different topic. Puig is a top of the order guy, not a middle of the order guy.

Trout is also batting second, but he is more of a #3 hitter. He will be batting in the middle of the order eventually.

 

[raoul5788]

BTW, who is the best lead off hitter of all time? Most would say Henderson. And the dude had a lot of power as well. He could have batted in the middle of the lineup because of his power. His career average of driving in runners was 14%, this is lower than the league average. Some years his success rate was under 10%. There is a reason why he batted in the top of the lineup instead of the middle.

Puig is similar to Henderson in many ways. He is more aggressive than Henderson when batting. Puig also has a much stronger arm that Henderson, but that is a different topic. Puig is a top of the order guy, not a middle of the order guy.

Trout is also batting second, but he is more of a #3 hitter. He will be batting in the middle of the order eventually.

It's clear that Henderson is the best lead off of all time, to me anyways. He could literally hit anywhere in the lineup. Not many players could do that. With a bit more discipline, he could have been one of the greatest players of all time.

 

[raoul5788]

How do we all feel about Dempster's 5 game suspension? Enough? Too much? Should he appeal?

My understanding is that he will not miss a start. If that's true, then what is the point of the suspension? He should have to miss at least one start if not more.