royrdsjr said:
I really don't care what religious values a sports person has, as long as he can play. I don't like review because of his values I just Dinny think a QB that runs a lot can do well in the NFL.
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I really don't care what religious values a sports person has, as long as he can play. I don't like review because of his values I just Dinny think a QB that runs a lot can do well in the NFL.
You can only say that by focusing on 5 games out of 37. Including them all it's still obviously advantage Crabtree in nearly every statistical category... often by a factor of two. You're dealing with such a statistically irrelevant sample (judging the value of draft picks based on 5 games) that one big game by Crabtree and one typical game by DHB (a couple catches, less than 100 yards) and I guess you'll have to come back and concede that they're more evenly matched than you thought.
Comparing 2 of the top draft picks at their position... mulligan and picking those who have been more successful is certainly on topic.
As for the diva stuff, what has come up this year about it? A quick Google search just gives me... 49ers Blog and Q&A: Crabtree getting mud, scratches on his "Diva" labelOr oh wait, are we only able to look at previous years character concerns, but not stats to compare these players?
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You're really going to get that technical with me on that?? OK, Michigan's not a coastal state. But, we're in Daylight Savings Time now, not Standard time...
The Raiders WILL survive.
Oakland did NOT go 8-8 last year because they threw all over the field. They are NOT a pass-heavy team.
Oakland did NOT go 8-8 last year because they threw all over the field. They are NOT a pass-heavy team.
At NO POINT was the discussion open about CAREER stats...we talking about the right now. What he has done the past...that has lead up to right now statistically is not part of the subject.
And RIGHT NOW, statistically he is playing better AND will no attitude whatsoever. This year, as far your "a couple of catches for less than 100 yards", Crabtree has only 2 games above 3 catches and NO GAMES with more than 77 yards...while DHB has 4 catches in all but 1 games and games with 115, 99 and 82 yards....on a team that is predominantly a running team.
So WHO were you talking about when you meant "a couple of catches for less than 100 yards" ...obviously you weren't talking about DHB.
About Crabtree's "diva ways" are well chronicled.. so using the SAME logic you used to judge DHB career stats, you can use the same way to judge Crabtree's attitude his entire NFL career.
Read your first sentence and last sentence and pick one. Or are you intentionally being hypocritical/having it both ways?
Earlier on ESPN,Trent Dilfer said something horrible about Mark Sanchez. He said that the way Sanchez is playing right now reminded him of himself(Dilfer) when he was playing. I wanted to scream at my TV,"You take that back:rant:."
. I wanted to scream at my TV,"You take that back:rant:."
Usually a QB runs a lot because he doesn't have any blockers protecting him. I was just making a point that Tebow wasn't the first QB who wore his faith on his sleeves(or under his eyes). I also brought up the point that Elway(who,for whatever reason,doesn't seem to want Tebow as his QB) should remember how "polished" he was his first season starting as QB.
meStevo said:
on the contrary....YOU want it both ways. You want to use Crabtrees stats for 37 games but not his diva act for those 37....think that he's turned it around in the last 5. LOL!
Nice try Tex....
rey_1178 said:How sad. Miami vs the jets was once one of the greatest rivalries for so many years
I hope the jets destroy the fins. It needs to get real bad so they can nuke the whole team. At least most of it.
They were actually outplaying the JETS. Then Sporano just gave up before the half.
You're really going to get that technical with me on that?? OK, Michigan's not a coastal state. But, we're in Daylight Savings Time now, not Standard time...
Just joking around !
Earlier on ESPN,Trent Dilfer said something horrible about Mark Sanchez. He said that the way Sanchez is playing right now reminded him of himself(Dilfer) when he was playing
Umm, Dilfer DID win a Super Bowl.
You didn't answer the question. You're the one dividing up stats and completely ignoring the rest to produce the outcome you desire. What has Crabtree done this year that's Diva-like? If you can't produce anything, then you're judging him on his previous performance, but his statistics are somehow out of bounds only because it ruins your entire argument.
Given the option, right now, I'd take Crabtree. He's produced in a system that has been very bad for multiple seasons, and with the right structure the Diva crap isn't a problem - which it hasn't been this year. The sample size is statistically irrelevant, the 136 yard differential in 5 games can easily be attributed to different offensive schemes (SF gets a lot more from their tight end, who leads the team in receiving yards) and the fact that SF has won every game he's played in, and by much favorable differentials leading to less passing. You're holding things like a 2 reception 36 yard day against a WR playing on a team that won that game 46-3.
Dolphins have to have the most boring offense I have ever seen! The U's offense is 10 times more creative and twice as exciting!
Right now, Dan Marion is turning in his fettuccini alfredo:
..."WTF happen to my Dolphins...?!"
Right now, Dan Marion is turning in his fettuccini alfredo:
..."WTF happen to my Dolphins...?!"
meStevo said:
You got my answer...you didn't like it. LOL! The same can be said in the way the Raiders run their offense, where it is run 1st, pass 2nd. From the begining, my comparison has been THIS year. Simple as that. You DON'T want to include Crabtree's diva act for all of his career both IN college and the pros....due to his last 5 games of behaving. But yet, with DHB...his last 5 games of work means nothing because you want to include his entire body of work.
How convenient...LMAO! Who wants it both ways again?
Done and over with....*smooch* ;-p
Again, you didn't answer. What has Crabtree done that's Diva-like this year, since we're only comparing their performances this year?
I'll leave it at that simple question since including anything else confuses you apparently. I've explained my point a couple of times now and it's just going over your head (in fact, now you're bringing college performance into it now too...)
Apparently, even if the Raiders did want Orton, they only have $6 million for cap space and could not afford it.
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