2011-12 NFL Season

[The Insider]

Try 21-12 in Chicago...AND in Denver, he posted some of best numbers statistically, meaning he did HIS part.

Kyle Orton NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

You have the numbers backwards he has 12 wins and 21 losses.

 

[salsadancer7]

You have the numbers backwards he has 12 wins and 21 losses.

That is his record in Denver... he is 33-33 as a starter.

 

[salsadancer7]

I'd say better than vicks. bigger and stronger should equal to better durability

I would not be too sure. As bad as Philly's O-line is...Denver's is worse. He Tebow MAY last longer because he younger.... As a NFL QB, Tebow is no where near at Vicks level.

 

[The Insider]

That is his record in Denver... he is 33-33 as a starter.

Right and I was talking about his record at Denver.. Tebow has a better winning % at Denver then Orton does And with a win over Miami he will be equal to Ortons overall record

 

[salsadancer7]

Right and I was talking about his record at Denver.. Tebow has a better winning % at Denver then Orton does And with a win over Miami he will be equal to Ortons overall record

LMAO! Whatever you need to make him god-like..I guess.

 

[The Insider]

LMAO! Whatever you need to make him god-like..I guess.

Not trying to make him god like, I have said he has to prove himself on the field. But having watched him tear apart SEC defenses like they were nothing (and other Defenses as well) for 4+ years, to listen to people say the guy is no good is just non-sense. In 3 weeks time we really get to see what he is capable of.

 

[HD MM]

Instead of the Love him/Hate him discussion, we're all going to see very soon whether Tebow is a good NFL QB or not. That's the great thing about this game. Opinions and predictions are proved on the field. Give him the rest of the year we'll find out. One way or the other.

Next discussion.......

 

[cosmo_kramer]

It's amazing how we're still talking about a sore throat from a player who sat out 2 weeks after it happened. (PS. the Browns still won that game without Hillis).

Oh, the drama surrounding teams during a bye week!! Ugh!!

If it really was a sore throat. Is his agent a doctor too??

 

[BillD1984]

That is his record in Denver... he is 33-33 as a starter.

Coincidentally, Tom Brady also has 33 losses as a starter...............but he also has 115 career wins.

 

[HD MM]

Note: The last time the Lions and Packers both started 5-0: 1931 - the Lions were known as the Portsmouth Spartans

 

[cybok0]

I would not be too sure. As bad as Philly's O-line is...Denver's is worse. He Tebow MAY last longer because he younger.... As a NFL QB, Tebow is no where near at Vicks level.

I don't think Tebow is better than Vick, but than again I never thought Vick was any good in the first place. He hasn't won the big game and his numbers is no where near the to of the league except for maybe rushing yards. I don't think Vick deserved that big contact and this season is proving it.

I might be wrong but IMO Tebow will be a flop.

 

[Rey]

I would not be too sure. As bad as Philly's O-line is...Denver's is worse. He Tebow MAY last longer because he younger.... As a NFL QB, Tebow is no where near at Vicks level.

in experience he's not.mentally either. but physically he's bigger and stronger than vick.i'm well aware this isn't college but i saw tim take hits in college i've never seen any other QB take without getting hurt.

 

[Rey]

Instead of the Love him/Hate him discussion, we're all going to see very soon whether Tebow is a good NFL QB or not. That's the great thing about this game. Opinions and predictions are proved on the field. Give him the rest of the year we'll find out. One way or the other.

Next discussion.......

+1!

 

[Rey]

I might be wrong but IMO Tebow will be a flop.

thats how i felt before he was drafted. and i'm usually spot on when it comes to qb's coming from the draft but, i'm cheering for the guy. i hope i'm wrong and he proves to be a good qb. in the few games he's played in the NFL, he's shown me better arm strength that what i originally thought he had.

 

[yaz96]

Note: The last time the Lions and Packers both started 5-0: 1931 - the Lions were known as the Portsmouth Spartans

...and dinosaurs roamed the earth....

 

[salsadancer7]

Coincidentally, Tom Brady also has 33 losses as a starter...............but he also has 115 career wins.

NO FAIR...NO FAIR!!! LOL!

 

[salsadancer7]

I read today, that on the last play of the Raiders win over the Texas..the Raiders had only 10 men on defense. Talk about Al Davis the 11 man "guiding" the ball for an interception....! LOL!

 

[salsadancer7]

thats how i felt before he was drafted. and i'm usually spot on when it comes to qb's coming from the draft but, i'm cheering for the guy. i hope i'm wrong and he proves to be a good qb. in the few games he's played in the NFL, he's shown me better arm strength that what i originally thought he had.

I was not a big fan of his in college, but after reading up on a few things about him and his family...I became a very big fan of the person and also feel he has gotten a bum rap before he has gotten a chance to prove himself. But for how great he was in college...the NFL ain't college. For how great the SEC defenses supposedly were, NFL defenders are bigger, faster and stronger. Success in college, regardless of school OR conference, does not equate success in the NFL.

 

[meStevo]

Good pickup by the Raiders today IMO, Aaron Curry acquired from the Seahawks for a 7th and a conditional pick the year following.

 

[salsadancer7]

I know this might be premature excitement(get your minds out of the gutter...LOL!)...but I have the gut feeling John Madden will be the next Raiders GM.

Madden not ready to talk about what role he will play

CEO Amy Trask and the Raiders are working on memorial service plans, as well as putting together tributes to honor Al Davis throughout Sunday’s game against Cleveland. They likely secured a third straight home sellout crowd with an offer of two free tickets (while they lasted) for season-ticket holders.

Trask said Tuesday that she was not yet ready to talk about hiring a director of football operations or a general manager — but here is our list of 10 names to get started. Former Raiders coach John Madden – who will likely have an advisory role – agreed that it was too soon.

He was asked about Davis’ comments years ago that Madden would help keep the house in order when Davis died.

“Al and I were always close, and we talked a lot about a lot of things,” Madden said on KCBS Radio. “But I think a lot of these things are premature right now. It’s still (about) mourning the death of Al Davis, and he was such a great person to so many people and did so many things.

“For me, it’s rather harsh just to jump in from death to this … I’m still thinking about … it was just a week ago that I was sitting with Al. And he said to me out of the clear blue, ‘You know Willie Mays?’ And I go, ‘Yeah.’ And he goes, “I’ve lost touch with him. I would like to see him again.’ I was going to try and get a hold of Willie Mays and have him come to a game.”

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