NCAA Football 2013 Off season discussion thread

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True lets just compared the first 2 games instead of the entire schedule.

So FLA Plays Miami in the first 2 games. Toledo plays Missouri.

Fla plays Toledo so the first game is a wash no?

So that being said they seem matched. Miami one of the top 4 in the ACC and Missouri the bottom of the SEC.. Acutally FLA has the better game of the two ;)

I hadn't realized that Missouri was below the likes of Kentucky , Vanderbuilt and many other low sec teams ... if thats the case, I stand corrected.

2-6 in the conference, wow... hadn't realized that ...

Now, you have 14 teams and about 7 are any good, but you guys continue to tout how great the CONFERENCE is.
It doesn't look much different than any other conference, you happen to have MORE top teams, but you also have a lot of Poor teams, just like every other conference does.
 
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I hadn't realized that Missouri was below the likes of Kentucky , Vanderbuilt and many other low sec teams ... if thats the case, I stand corrected.


Where you been? Vanderbilt was 9-4 last year and finished ranked 23 in the nation Missouri was 5-7..

Vandy done came up in the world, Kentucky down there though. Missouri is in a tie with Tenn for third worst team in the SEC. Where as Vandy is solid in the middle atm.
 
Where you been? Vanderbilt was 9-4 last year and finished ranked 23 in the nation Missouri was 5-7..

Vandy done came up in the world, Kentucky down there though. Missouri is in a tie with Tenn for third worst team in the SEC. Where as Vandy is solid in the middle atm.
They were the 7th team I included, forgot to change it above, I originally had it at 6.

Still, lets see if Vandy continues or goes back to where they typically are this year.

Where is Baylor, now that RGIII is gone.
Where's Auburn now that Cam is gone ... neither team stayed high.

Fwiw, Toledo didn't win the conference last year either, but they were in it till the end.
Toledo was 9-4 just like Vandy.
 
They were the 7th team I included, forgot to change it above, I originally had it at 6.

Still, lets see if Vandy continues or goes back to where they typically are this year.

Where is Baylor, now that RGIII is gone.
Where's Auburn now that Cam is gone ... neither team stayed high.

Fwiw, Toledo didn't win the conference last year either, but they were in it till the end.
Toledo was 9-4 just like Vandy.

Far as SEC goes yes there are about at least 6 teams in the conference that would also be in the top of any other conference they played in. Find me another conference with 6 teams who could be top tier players anywhere they went.

The middle of the SEC fell out last year no doubt. With Auburn and Arkansas just falling to dust, the only teams left in the middle was Miss St, Ole Miss and Vanderbilt (if you can believe that) . The rest were in a fight for the bottom.


Id love to see Tenn and Auburn get back to relevance (actually I wouldn't the SEC East is hard enough with us competeing against SCAR and GA id hate to add another good team)

Its sad really but we talk about why teams don't usually schedule big OOC games. Fact is it is hard to get into the BCS title game, with 1 loss. Its even harder with 2 (although possible) So teams do not want to risk that loss with no reward. Alabama will steam roll VTech but is the risk worth it? If they win so what they beat a crappy ACC team. But if they lose.. All bets are off. Alabama, doenst need to play that big game to get into the BCS title game so why do it? The risk vs reward is not there and that is why MOST schools do not do it regularly. SEC, big 10 don't care what school you pick. Very few schools do it on a continuous basis. I will say this though VTech has done it for quite a few seasons now and look where it has got them.

The SEC went 6-3 in the bowls last year. and Finished with 7 teams in the top 25 in the final polls including 5 of the top ten. Those were the final polls. After all the games were done. No other conference had 7 teams in the top 25 let alone 5 in the top 10. The big 10 and big12 all had losing records in the bowl games, the pac12 was even and the acc was 4-2..

So if the SEC is over rated, what does that make every other conference? When the numbers continually show they deserve that "rating"
 
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Does anyone really think that a 9-4 toledo equals vandy? Of any winning record? If so, please, explain, without laughing.

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Far as SEC goes yes there are about at least 6 teams in the conference that would also be in the top of any other conference they played in. Find me another conference with 6 teams who could be top tier players anywhere they went.

The middle of the SEC fell out last year no doubt. With Auburn and Arkansas just falling to dust, the only teams left in the middle was Miss St, Ole Miss and Vanderbilt (if you can believe that) . The rest were in a fight for the bottom.


Id love to see Tenn and Auburn get back to relevance (actually I wouldn't the SEC East is hard enough with us competeing against SCAR and GA id hate to add another good team)

Its sad really but we talk about why teams don't usually schedule big OOC games. Fact is it is hard to get into the BCS title game, with 1 loss. Its even harder with 2 (although possible) So teams do not want to risk that loss with no reward. Alabama will steam roll VTech but is the risk worth it? If they win so what they beat a crappy ACC team. But if they lose.. All bets are off. Alabama, doenst need to play that big game to get into the BCS title game so why do it? The risk vs reward is not there and that is why MOST schools do not do it regularly. SEC, big 10 don't care what school you pick. Very few schools do it on a continuous basis. I will say this though VTech has done it for quite a few seasons now and look where it has got them.

The SEC went 6-3 in the bowls last year. and Finished with 7 teams in the top 25 in the final polls including 5 of the top ten. Those were the final polls. After all the games were done. No other conference had 7 teams in the top 25 let alone 5 in the top 10. The big 10 and big12 all had losing records in the bowl games, the pac12 was even and the acc was 4-2..

So if the SEC is over rated, what does that make every other conference? When the numbers continually show they deserve that "rating"

When 50% of your conference is a top 25 team in the nation let me know and we can talk about your conference being the best also.
 
Now, you have 14 teams and about 7 are any good, but you guys continue to tout how great the CONFERENCE is.
It doesn't look much different than any other conference, you happen to have MORE top teams, but you also have a lot of Poor teams, just like every other conference does.
You have fourteen teams, yet six were in the top ten. Bama, a&m, Georgia, lsu, Florida, and USC. Is it any wonder that the other eight are ranked lower?


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You have fourteen teams, yet six were in the top ten. Bama, a&m, Georgia, lsu, Florida, and USC. Is it any wonder that the other eight are ranked lower?


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I wonder the same thing, when you have 50% of your conference ranked in the top 25 with 6 top ten teams.. It does not leave much room for the other 7 teams in the conference to do anything. Most conferences are lucky to have 2 top ten teams if that and 3-4 top 25 total. Heck last year the Big 10 was Only Ohio St and everyone else.. so 1 out of 12.. The big 12 had Oklahoma, Oklahoma st, Texas and Kansas st. 4 out of 10 not to shabby almost 50%. (course we all know what happened when conference champ runner up Oklahoma played the SEC.) The pac 12 you had Oregon maybe oregon st and stanford.


Wheres the competition
 
They should play better OOC games to compete.

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You have fourteen teams, yet six were in the top ten. Bama, a&m, Georgia, lsu, Florida, and USC. Is it any wonder that the other eight are ranked lower?


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Wasn't referring to where they were ranked, I was looking at the fact that they were all at or under .500
 
Wasn't referring to where they were ranked, I was looking at the fact that they were all at or under .500

All at or under. 500? I missed something.

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If you want to go that route, not only were six teams top ten, and seven teams top 25, but 9 teams out of 14 had winning records.


If you are going just sec records.... Again, six of fourteen were in the top ten.....
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The math isn't going to work in your favor. I can assure you.

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The math isn't going to work in your favor. I can assure you.

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I never asked it too.

It's rather easy for you guys to sit on top of your sec throne and squawk, you've been at the top for a decade now.

My point was that the sec is no different than any other conference, they have thier bottom dwellers as well.
 
I've never said we didn't. I have said that overall the sec is stronger. Stats back it up. Twist it as you want. We do have our bottom dwellers though, we just don't have as many, and even then, they aren't on the same level as most conferences.

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