NCAA Football 2013 Off season discussion thread

[Jimbo]

Lets get to the real point at hand. Which SEC team will again win the national title this year? There are 6 teams that come to mind when I think who has the best shots and in no particular order

1. Alabama
2. LSU
3. Texas AnM (imagine?!)
4. Florida
5. GA
6. South Carolina (holy hell where did they come from. Ol Ball coach bringing them to the promise land)

Is there another conference that has 6 teams who all have a legitimate shot at the national title? I mean any one of those 6 teams above based on the last 2-3 years (which you do not try to go back much farther in college cause they switch players so often) have a great shot in the title.

It will come down to which team survives the battles between each other the best.

In the SEC West Alabama is the front runner following closely by LSU and aTm. The SEC East is wide open. It is anyone's division to win With the three front runners FLA, GA, SCAR and Vanderbilt (shocker?) who has moved beyond push over status and may see there light rising, and Tenn (what is going on in knoxville will they get it together this year?) And Kentucky so everyone can have a break. (sorry Kentucky fans)

My vote is Florida. How did I come to this decision you ask? I'm a FLA fan duh. GO GATORS!

(PS: I think we'll know after the first game against tulsa if FLA will be worth anything on offense. If our offense is fixed and working no doubt about how far we can go. As our defense has been solid for quite some time despite our poor offense)

Your gonna learn how good your Offense will be against Tulsa ?

 

[The Insider]

Your gonna learn how good your Offense will be against Tulsa ?

You laugh but you should of saw how bad we looked against the scrubs we started with last year. If we cant look good against a team like Tulsa it will be a very long season.

 

[osu1991]

Although I would love to see the Golden Hurricane kick Florida's ass, just what schedule are you looking at? TU has Bowling Green, Colorado St, OU and Iowa St on their non conference schedule this year.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-13/conf-usa/2013-tulsa-golden-hurricane-football-schedule.php

I know it's hard to keep track of all those creampuffs, the sec likes to play but Florida opens up against Toledo.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-13/sec/2013-florida-gators-football-schedule.php

 

[The Insider]

Although I would love to see the Golden Hurricane kick Florida's ass, just what schedule are you looking at? TU has Bowling Green, Colorado St, OU and Iowa St on their non conference schedule this year.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-13/conf-usa/2013-tulsa-golden-hurricane-football-schedule.php

I know it's hard to keep track of all those creampuffs, the sec likes to play but Florida opens up against Toledo.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-13/sec/2013-florida-gators-football-schedule.php

Toledo Tulsa does it matter it was some scrub with a T name

hey game 2 is against the Miami Hurricanes. A former big rivalry with us and our first time playing them in some time.

 

[The Insider]

I agree about the SEC cream puffs we should do like the big 12 and open up big...

OK v LA-Monroe
Texas V New Mexico st
West Virginia V William and Mary (yea I didnt make that up)
Baylor V wofford..
Ok St V Miss st (hehe yea I know, Im not sure which one of these teams is playing the scrub though )

Should we keep looking?

 

[Jimbo]

Toledo Tulsa does it matter it was some scrub with a T name

hey game 2 is against the Miami Hurricanes. A former big rivalry with us and our first time playing them in some time.

YES, it DOES Matter ...

Toledo could very well handle your team if they play decent.
Toledo is no slouch.

 

[Jimbo]

I agree about the SEC cream puffs we should do like the big 12 and open up big...

OK v LA-Monroe
Texas V New Mexico st
West Virginia V William and Mary (yea I didnt make that up)
Baylor V wofford..
Ok St V Miss st (hehe yea I know, Im not sure which one of these teams is playing the scrub though )

Should we keep looking?

Maybe you should look at Toledo's opening games if you want to see how to schedule the first few games of the new year.
They play Florida and Missouri back to back.
Both on the ROAD, something no SEC team would think of doing.

 

[Jimbo]

As he sheepishly hopes that Toledo has it's Offense going strong at the beginning of the year.

Toledo's Offense typically is very good, thier D may be thier downfall again this year.

 

[osu1991]

Toledo Tulsa does it matter it was some scrub with a T name

hey game 2 is against the Miami Hurricanes. A former big rivalry with us and our first time playing them in some time.

Tulsa are the current CUSA champs and would probably lose 7 out 10, but unlike Florida's last game, Florida would be happy to get off the field without being totally embarrassed.

 

[osu1991]

I agree about the SEC cream puffs we should do like the big 12 and open up big...

OK v LA-Monroe
Texas V New Mexico st
West Virginia V William and Mary (yea I didnt make that up)
Baylor V wofford..
Ok St V Miss st (hehe yea I know, Im not sure which one of these teams is playing the scrub though )

Should we keep looking?

Go ahead, you will eventually see the sec regularly plays a much weaker group of teams. Perhaps if sec teams would leave their home state more than once a century they could schedule some better teams.

 

[Ronnie-]

SEC teams leave their home state? What are you talking about?

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[osu1991]

SEC teams leave their home state? What are you talking about?

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Hey I give Bama some credit, they've slightly upgraded their non con schedule the last few years, the rest of the sec not so much.

Florida 2013
08/31 - Toledo
09/07 - at Miami (FL)
11/23 - Georgia Southern
11/30 - Florida State
2014
08/30 - Idaho
09/06 - Eastern Michigan
11/22 - Eastern Kentucky
11/29 - at Florida State
2015
09/05 - New Mexico State
11/28 - Florida State
TBA - Florida Atlantic
2016
09/03 - UMass
09/10 - North Texas
11/26 - at Florida State

Looks like all Florida games.
Georgia leaves the state once in the next five years to Clemson the rest all Georgia games.
LSU in Dallas again this year, then they go to OU and Arizona ST over the next 5 years, the rest all home games (not great but not bad).
A&M ooh they go on the road once to Oregon in 2018,(although their schedule is currently fubarred some because of the conference change).
Hey Auburn goes to KState next year, otherwise nothing outside the state.
Hmm Arkansas is actually going to Rutgers, TCU and Michigan the next few years.

Now lets see, OU is going to ND, Tennessee, Ohio St, LSU, Army and Nebraska over the next 7 years.
TCU with trips to Minnesota, Arkansas and Ohio St.
WVU has Bama in Atlanta, and then trips to Maryland, BYU (neutral site) and ECU.
OSU has Miss St and Fla St on neutral sites, then trips to Central Mich, South Alabama and Boise St.
Texas has trips to BYU, ND, CAL, USC, Maryland and Ohio St

The sec media machine likes to paint the picture of how tough they are, if so why don't they try and go on the road and see how they like playing in someone elses stadium in front of a hostile crowd. Afraid we will see more of the domination that occurred in the Sugar Bowl

So now we can see all the posts and hype about how they have to schedule all the automatic non con home games because they have such a tough conference schedule. Which everyone except the sec media and fans agree isn't really that great.

 

[The Insider]

Maybe you should look at Toledo's opening games if you want to see how to schedule the first few games of the new year.
They play Florida and Missouri back to back.
Both on the ROAD, something no SEC team would think of doing.

Alabama did it

Mich then Vtech both top teams in there conference (all be it weak conferences)

 

[osu1991]

Alabama did it

Mich then Vtech both top teams in there conference (all be it weak conferences)

Yep, that's the common answer from sec fans. Hey Alabama did it so we can take credit for it and declare we too are awesome because of it.

 

[The Insider]

YES, it DOES Matter ...

Toledo could very well handle your team if they play decent.
Toledo is no slouch.

Oh please, Toledo nor Tulsa are nothing but push overs for the big conferences. Toledo is a slouch, thats why they are where they are. 3rd or 4th best team in the MAC?

 

[Ronnie-]

I would like to point out, for Florida, Georgia, and USC, they have one automatic OOC game against a big name BCS school every year with their rivalry games. It just happens that those schools are in state. Personally, I do not think it matters. They are still playing FSU, Clemson, and Ga Tech every year, which nearly any school would brag about scheduling.

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[The Insider]

Maybe you should look at Toledo's opening games if you want to see how to schedule the first few games of the new year.
They play Florida and Missouri back to back.
Both on the ROAD, something no SEC team would think of doing.

Come on you are a smart guy you really want to compare Toledos schedule to FLAS? I'll give them credit for having FLA and Missouri but then they have no one else on the schedule. Missouri is a bottom tier SEC team, FLA well will either be in the middle or top. But even bottom Tier Missouri would be in the middle/top of the MAC..

Toledo will not play against a team higher ranked than FLA all year. FLA how ever will be playing quite possibly 4 top ten teams. (lsu, scar, ga, fsu) Toledo needs the help in schedule FLA doesn't. Now that is not to say I do not wish we would schedule bigger teams, I like the fact we added Miami this year. While not the power house of old, they certainly are better than toledo and a nice warm up before SEC play and it will be in Miami.

Miami last year was in the top of the ACC, and they also returned the most players of any ACC team.

As far as playing big games on the Road, FLA is doing that with Miami, and did it with ACC champion FSU last year. (yea we play FSU every year we are required to)

But the SEC does play big games with other teams, as much as the other big conferences do. Pick a conference big ten, pac12, acc, etc etc and you will find the same type of scheduling you do in the SEC.

Look at Ohio St

Buffalo (hey from the mac like toledo.. and worse record), San Diego St, Cal, Florida AnM.

FLA at least is playing 2 teams who have a chance at being conference champions in a major conference. (ok I laughed a little when I called the ACC major but it is what it is.)

 

[The Insider]

Go ahead, you will eventually see the sec regularly plays a much weaker group of teams. Perhaps if sec teams would leave their home state more than once a century they could schedule some better teams.

I would compare the SEC ooc vs any other conference any day youd like. They all play cup cakes. There is little incentive not to. To say this is an SEC only trend is just laughable.

 

[Hart5150]

Lamar? So someone's team is playing Lamar and they've got nerve to question other teams schedule. Yes, Lamar.

Lamar? LMFAO.

 

[The Insider]

Hey I give Bama some credit, they've slightly upgraded their non con schedule the last few years, the rest of the sec not so much.

Florida 2013
08/31 - Toledo
09/07 - at Miami (FL)
11/23 - Georgia Southern
11/30 - Florida State
2014
08/30 - Idaho
09/06 - Eastern Michigan
11/22 - Eastern Kentucky
11/29 - at Florida State
2015
09/05 - New Mexico State
11/28 - Florida State
TBA - Florida Atlantic
2016
09/03 - UMass
09/10 - North Texas
11/26 - at Florida State

Looks like all Florida games.
Georgia leaves the state once in the next five years to Clemson the rest all Georgia games.
LSU in Dallas again this year, then they go to OU and Arizona ST over the next 5 years, the rest all home games (not great but not bad).
A&M ooh they go on the road once to Oregon in 2018,(although their schedule is currently fubarred some because of the conference change).
Hey Auburn goes to KState next year, otherwise nothing outside the state.
Hmm Arkansas is actually going to Rutgers, TCU and Michigan the next few years.

Now lets see, OU is going to ND, Tennessee, Ohio St, LSU, Army and Nebraska over the next 7 years.
TCU with trips to Minnesota, Arkansas and Ohio St.
WVU has Bama in Atlanta, and then trips to Maryland, BYU (neutral site) and ECU.
OSU has Miss St and Fla St on neutral sites, then trips to Central Mich, South Alabama and Boise St.
Texas has trips to BYU, ND, CAL, USC, Maryland and Ohio St

The sec media machine likes to paint the picture of how tough they are, if so why don't they try and go on the road and see how they like playing in someone elses stadium in front of a hostile crowd. Afraid we will see more of the domination that occurred in the Sugar Bowl

So now we can see all the posts and hype about how they have to schedule all the automatic non con home games because they have such a tough conference schedule. Which everyone except the sec media and fans agree isn't really that great.

FLA plays FSU every year. (I guess it only is important game when talking about OSu playing them) FLA also plays MssSt every year.. We consider that a given win.

You know what is funny. There are two games people use to talk about the SEC not being as tough as they are shown to be. Before it was The Alabama sugar bowl loss, now the FLA one. Do we want to talk about the 5 BCS national titles between those two teams? or just the out of ordinary losses against teams that were having great years? The fact just the year before FLA beat The Ohio St in its bowl game? Year in and year out the SEC maintains the lead in bowl wins. Both BCS and regular bowls. What more do they have to do to prove they are the premier conference?

and yes the in conference schedule is far tougher than anyone elses. Find me another conference with 6 teams with legitimate national title shot.