NCAA Football 2012-13 off season

[Ronnie-]

That damn network.....more trouble that it is worth (well, maybe).

It certainly seems to be a thorn in everyones side. Wonder how long before it becomes just the Big 12 network, or something similar?

 

[osu1991]

Maryland installing new field turf with cooling technology (PIC) - CBSSports.com

Looks like Maryland made the right decision to stay with GREEN field turf, but it is going to be high tech, with a new infill substance that keeps the field much cooler than the black rubber infill that has been used the past few years.

 

[yaz96]

Mark Kiszla: College football's student-athletes won't see payoff from new playoff

POSTED: 06/21/2012 11:25:00 PM MDT
UPDATED: 06/22/2012 10:22:28 AM MDTBy Mark Kiszla
The Denver Post


A college football playoff is coming. A pigskin-crazy nation cheers.

Pardon me while I hold my applause.

Why?

The quarterbacks and defensive linemen who will actually play for the national championship are being played for $500 million fools by the fat cats destined to get richer from a playoff.

A tournament to determine who's No. 1 is great for Ohio State coach Urban Meyer, already being paid a minimum of $4 million per season to win games for the Buckeyes.

A football playoff, however, is a rip-off for every athlete on the University of Colorado football team, whose scholarships don't begin to cover routine living expenses in Boulder.

The fat cats of college football have endorsed a four-team playoff model that, pending approval from university presidents, would begin in 2014. Why is Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott smiling? The tournament could net a $500 million windfall for the sport.

But how will players benefit from the proposal?

You mean other than the chance to raise an index finger in celebration after the championship game?

The No. 1 people exploited will be the very student-athletes the NCAA pretends to care about. A cornerback for Louisiana State or an Oregon offensive lineman might be on full scholarship, but the ride ain't free. During the 2010 season, CU football players faced an annual living expenses shortfall in excess of $4,000, according to a study commissioned by the National College Players Association, an organization born in California to give a voice to amateur athletes.

Buffaloes football coach Jon Embree has advocated a $50,000 payment as thanks to CU players who graduate within five years. I have long believed Division I scholarship athletes, male and female, in all sports, should receive a $500 monthly stipend to help cover everything from a trip home for the holidays to a new inner tube for that broken-down bike.

Screams of opposition often are heard from students who excel in chemistry or music rather than blocking and tackling. When NCAA president Mark Emmert pushed through a proposal for a modest and inadequate $2,000 annual stipend last fall, athletic department officials across the country immediately pushed back, crying poverty.

Maybe if millionaire coaches were paid slightly less, the athletes actually doing the sweating wouldn't have to live on the cheap. Nothing against scholars who set the curve on calculus exams, but the new Pac-12 television deal is estimated to be worth in excess of $20 million annually to CU. Anybody who regards participation in big-time college sports as anything other than a job is being naïve.

A football tournament with revenues in the very ritzy neighborhood of a half-billion dollars per year could fund a stipend for every athlete in Division I, if the math skills of my public-school education have computed the costs accurately.

If college presidents rubber-stamp the playoffs without finding a way for players to benefit from the further commercialization of amateur athletics, then all these fine academicians should have to move in this fall with four 300-pound linemen sharing a two-bedroom, off-campus apartment for the glory of dear, old State U.

When movers-and-shakers such as Jim Delany from the Big Ten and Mike Slive from the Southeastern Conference sat down in recent days to argue the details of a playoff, they worried about how the most deserving teams would be selected and where the title game would be held. Happy fans shouted death to the BCS and its indecipherable computer rankings. The guys in sherbet-colored blazers grinned because their cushy bowl jobs remain intact with this tourney plan.

A four-team playoff was hailed as a victory for all involved.

It's a victory for everybody, except the young athletes who actually play the games.

Mark Kiszla: 303-954-1053 or mkiszla@denverpost.com



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[Derwin0]

yes because the free tuition, books, room, and food are worthless...

 

[salsadancer7]

yes because the free tuition, books, room, and food are worthless...

Not worthless..kids should get something more than the above. Take it from someone who went to school on a baseball scholarship...it ain't enough.

 

[The Insider]

its not enough? Then dont take it. Fact of the matter is maybe 10% of these kids if that are making it to the big leagues. So this is there only chance to enjoy playing the game they love, and get a free education out of it. Which the majority of the kids who are on these teams could neither afford on there own or under normal circumstances probably wouldn't even get picked to go to some of these schools they attend (academically)

 

[Ronnie-]

Been saying that for years. They are essentially getting "paid" what, in some cases a couple hundred thousand (not counting what it is worth to them after they graduate) all said to play? I know alot of people that would kill to have that deal.

 

[salsadancer7]

its not enough? Then dont take it. Fact of the matter is maybe 10% of these kids if that are making it to the big leagues. So this is there only chance to enjoy playing the game they love, and get a free education out of it. Which the majority of the kids who are on these teams could neither afford on there own or under normal circumstances probably wouldn't even get picked to go to some of these schools they attend (academically)

Look.... You are right in 2 things: (1) only 10% will not make it to Pro and (2)the majority could not afford those schools. But the fact of the matter is...based on PERSONAL experience....as in ME, MYSELF and I... it is not enough. A poor kid/little financial means comes on a 'free ride'. Books, tuition and a roof is paid for. Everyday things like laundry money, toiletries money, money to OCCASIONALLY do something social other than pose for MANDATORY school pressers and functions....IF the school allows you the time....to say, go to a movie...IF they have a sh!!7y car...put some gas in it. GOD FORBID you have a family emergency or twin because sh17 happens...and you have to go home BEFORE break or before the end of the school year...where is THAT money gonna come from?

You have NO CLUE about this because you have never gone through it.

NCAA Rules Trap Many College Athletes in Poverty

By Sheryl Nance-Nash
Posted 4:00PM 09/13/11
Posted under: Special Report, Personal Finance

College football and basketball players are getting played instead of getting paid: Though they bring in the big bucks for their institutions of higher learning, many star athletes are living below the poverty line, according to a new study, The Price of Poverty in Big Time College Sport.

The study, conducted by the National College Players Association and Drexel University's department of sport management, looked at football and basketball teams from Football Bowl Subdivision colleges and calculated athletes' out-of-pocket education-related expenses (over and above their "full" scholarships), and compared the room-and-board portion of players' scholarships to the federal poverty line -- as well as to coaches' and athletic administrators' salaries. It then used NFL and NBA collecting bargaining agreements to estimate the fair market value of FBS football and basketball players.

The results were none too favorable for athletes: The average scholarship shortfall -- the student's out-of-pocket expenses -- for each "full scholarship" athlete was approximately $3,222 per player during the 2010-11 school year. The report also found that the room-and-board provisions in a full scholarship leave 85% of players living on campus and 86% of players living off campus living below the federal poverty line. And the estimated "fair market value" of those FBS football and basketball players to their institutions? $120,048 and $265,027, respectively.

NCAA Rules Trap Many College Athletes in Poverty - DailyFinance

Read it a few times....might educate you on what is REALLY going on...

 

[salsadancer7]

You guys COMPLETED lost the concept of that GREAT post by Yaz. You guys probably read the 1st 2 lines and the moment it said 'pay college players'...you stop reading right then and there.

 

[Ronnie-]

Salsa, the problems you mention are problems for many students not getting a free ride. Yeah they may have jobs, but that money goes to pay for things that student athletes get for free such as room, board, meals, books.

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[salsadancer7]

Salsa, the problems you mention are problems for many students not getting a free ride. Yeah they may have jobs, but that money goes to pay for things that student athletes get for free such as room, board, meals, books.

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NONE of those NON student-athletes bring in $100 of millions into the university coffers every year. MANY of those libraries and research centers COMES FROM the money those players/teams generate.

Oh and by the way, they JUST LET student athletes get part-time jobs(within the last few years, that was not allowed when I went to FSU) AND they are not allowed to earn more than $2000 a year or they risk losing their scholarship.

 

[osu1991]

I played 2 years before 2 knee surgeries and a broken ankle put an end to it, so I know what this about too. Student Athletes are no different than normal students. Sure a few of these athletes bring in millions to pay coaches insane amounts, but a lot of that money also goes to upkeep and improvements to the facilities, so younger generations will want to come play and so that fans will keep coming.

The student athletes problems are no different than any other students, except most of those students are working jobs to pay for their education and any of those occasional emergencies that might arise. If athletes choose to move off campus, that is their choice. If they want it paid for, then stay on campus. I agree there are some things that need to be provided for, but paying them outright is not the solution.

 

[salsadancer7]

Paying them outright was never mentioned by me. I stated that it was not enough. IF you are not going to pay them something, ANYTHING. Then cover that student athlete's fee for gas for their cars, money for everyday expenses, trips home.

And student athletes ARE different than non athletes. Those "few that bring in millions' COMPLETELY COVER title 9 expenses for female athletics, PLUS stadiums. IF it weren't for those "few" bring in the dough... You would not have the explosion of TV money for these bowl games and "March Madness".

 

[Ronnie-]

Football Players Receive $17,000 Annually in Cash, all within NCAA Rules « HolyTurf

That’s it. I have had it with the inane and redundant talk about NCAA football student-athletes, specifically football players, not being able pay for a tank of gas or afford a combo meal at Subway. Stop it! Enough is enough. These kids are given ample resources to “survive” during their years on a college campus, and I will prove it to you. I will show you not only the value of a scholarship, but the cash and benefits student-athletes can get all within NCAA rules.If this is your first time to Holy Turf, welcome. Let me give you some quick background information. I spent nine years working inside athletic departments at Arkansas and Baylor as an academic advisor for student-athletes. I have seen the inner workings of two athletic departments in two major conferences. Let’s get back to the task at hand. I live in Fayetteville, Arkansas, the home of the Razorbacks. In this article, I am going to use Arkansas as my example.Before we get to the value of a scholarship, let’s start off with the amount of money available to football student-athletes within NCAA rules.

Another view.

 

[Ramy]

Some of the comments talk about how much the football teams make. They don't understand that football and basketball pay for all yes ALL the other sports that they have at the school.

 

[Ronnie-]

Some of the comments talk about how much the football teams make. They don't understand that football and basketball pay for all yes ALL the other sports that they have at the school.

And generally speaking it is just the football teams.

 

[salsadancer7]

Football Players Receive $17,000 Annually in Cash, all within NCAA Rules « HolyTurf[/url

Another view.

I call BS on this and I tell you why. This was never brought up to me as a student athlete and of ALL of the articles that has EVER been written favorably towards paying something towards as student athlete, this was never brought up.

Now, I am not saying I have read all of them, but I have read alot on this issue because I am a proponent of paying something to student athletes and not one reporting this has ever brought this up.

INCLUDING the study done by a Drexel University on this issue.

[url]http://www.ncpanow.org/research?id=0024

 

[salsadancer7]

Some of the comments talk about how much the football teams make. They don't understand that football and basketball pay for all yes ALL the other sports that they have at the school.

Yes, they do. But ALOT of the money also go to coaches and university presidents AND conference presidents.

 

[osu1991]

Football Players Receive $17,000 Annually in Cash, all within NCAA Rules « HolyTurf



Another view.

I wish my Pell grant had been $5500, if I recall correctly, mine was around $2-300 per semester. $5500 and I wouldn't have had to use student loans when I gave up my athletic scholarship. I was fortunate in that I graduated Valedictorian in high school, so I had several academic scholarships too. With 3 kids in college at the same time, I was lucky my parents could afford for us to come home whenever we wanted, but my sisters and I all relied on athletic and academic scholarships in addition to grants and some student loans. I agree more needs to be done, I just haven't heard anything that I think helps without having the risks of being abused.

 

[osu1991]

Sports Radio Interviews » Blog Archive » Pac 12 Commissioner Larry Scott Believes This Proposed College Football Playoff Model Will Be in Place for At Least a Decade

What they wanted to make sure they preserved in these conversations:

“Yeah we only had two or three principles that we kept articulating and said these are things that are of paramount importance to us if we’re going to consider a playoff going forward. One is preserving the preeminent division the Rose Bowl holds in the world of college football and in particular amongst the bowls. The second is preserving the regular season. The third is making sure that the Pac 12 is treated fairly given the fact that we play tougher a schedule than the other conferences.


: What the heck is Larry Scott smoking, saying the PAC 12 plays a tougher schedule than other conferences?