NCAA Football 2007-08
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you left out the 2004 Auburn Tigers. (You know Auburn fans can't let that go)
I think LSU is still the best team in the nation. If they win out, then there's no way they can't be in the championship game. I just hate to see OSU embarrassed by an SEC team two years in a row.
But seriously, if ASU, OSU, and BC stay undefeated and LSU only has one loss, then who's #1 and #2? Who gets left out? In that situtation, I would say LSU and ASU were 1 and 2, but that leaves OSU and BC screaming their heads off.
What would be even crazier though, let's say that they all have one loss and Hawaii is the only undefeated. You could go on like this all day. It just all boils down to the fact that the BCS is total crap.
you left out the 2004 Auburn Tigers. (You know Auburn fans can't let that go)
I think LSU is still the best team in the nation. If they win out, then there's no way they can't be in the championship game. I just hate to see OSU embarrassed by an SEC team two years in a row.
But seriously, if ASU, OSU, and BC stay undefeated and LSU only has one loss, then who's #1 and #2? Who gets left out? In that situtation, I would say LSU and ASU were 1 and 2, but that leaves OSU and BC screaming their heads off.
What would be even crazier though, let's say that they all have one loss and Hawaii is the only undefeated. You could go on like this all day. It just all boils down to the fact that the BCS is total crap.
Good point....but again...I think because you go undefeated, does not merit a National Championship Game right.
Does Appalachian State count?
Oddly enough, MICHIGAN has climbed to #15 in the BCS poll.
If OSU goes undefeated they're in - the Big10 won't be ignored by the pollsters and that will bolster their BCS score. If LSU wins out, they will have a hard time getting in if either ASU or Oregon go undefeated because LSU's opponents keep going down to other SEC teams, hurting their BCS score. As far as BC goes, even if they go undefeated, I still don't see how they come out ahead of a one loss LSU or undefeated ASU/Oregon due to their opponents win/loss records.
My head is hurting! Man I hope we beat Bama this weekend!
My head is hurting! Man I hope we beat Bama this weekend!
Coaches give record more weight than AP voters, so since the Coaches poll is used in the BCS, BC will be in (over LSU) if they win out. The computers also give no love to LSU as BC is #1 with the computers and LSU is #4.
That's the thing. The SEC has so much parity that any SEC team can beat any other SEC team on any given day. Even after the bloody mess that the SEC has become this season, there are still 5 SEC teams ranked in the top 25.
Also, Oregon already has one loss (Cal) and they play Arizona State this weekend. Then Arizona State has UCLA and USC the next two weeks. That's a hard three weeks.
LSU has Alabama this week then Arkansas at the end of November and if they win out, the SEC Championship game. Those are their three tests.
OSU's looking at Wisconsin this week and then Michigan in a couple of weeks. I think Michigan is good enough to beat them. They got off to a bad start this season, but they've looked a lot better the last month or so.
Interestingly enough, Oregon is in a good position to be in the one loss argument for the title game if they can get past Arizona State and UCLA.
Crap, I've got to stop. There are just too many possibilities. Just make all the conferences play a championship game, then take the conference champs and run a playoff with them.
Everyone's ignoring the other undefeated team from a BCS conference: Kansas! They have just as good a chance of being undefeated at the end of the season as anyone. They're suffering from being unranked when the season started, but they're in the top 10 now.
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Does Appalachian State count?
I think they made too much of the Appalachian State loss. Were the defending back-to-back champions? But ALL those that were ranked in the latter 25 have benefit from ALOT from alot fo teams losing in the top 10. Look at Kansas and ASU.
The more I look at this season the more I think you're right about a two-loss team playing in the BCS championship, Salsa. It's very possible an undefeated Pac Ten team could be on the outside looking in, ala Auburn. If LSU runs the table, my vote would be with them to play in the championship. The SEC is just murder this year.
Would someone please beat OSU and BC, have 10 teams with one loss, throw the BCS into a frenzy and drum up support for playoffs!
And by the end of the season, we will still be ignoring Kansas, unless you're talking basketball.
Here is a question....Let's say, OSU, Boston College and LSU wins out. HOW in the world do you leave LSU out of the championship game when they will have played a tougher schedule against better teams....??!! DOES being undefeated AUTOMATICALLY give you the right to play for the national championship...EVEN if you might have played a weaker schedule or a played in a "weaker" conference?
HMMMMmmmmmmm....this should REALY get the debate going....
Isn't that what the BCS is for , to decide these things ?
Anyway it turns out, someone won't be happy ....
Jimbo
Again...IF LSU runs the table...and that is a BIG IF because they, to me, have THE HARDEST path to end the season....and the others run the table also and Ohio State, Kansas and Boston College finish undefeated....LSU, WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT....EVEN with one loss....is the best team in the country....with my apologies to the others.
you left out the 2004 Auburn Tigers. (You know Auburn fans can't let that go)
I think LSU is still the best team in the nation. If they win out, then there's no way they can't be in the championship game. I just hate to see OSU embarrassed by an SEC team two years in a row.
But seriously, if ASU, OSU, and BC stay undefeated and LSU only has one loss, then who's #1 and #2? Who gets left out? In that situtation, I would say LSU and ASU were 1 and 2, but that leaves OSU and BC screaming their heads off.
What would be even crazier though, let's say that they all have one loss and Hawaii is the only undefeated. You could go on like this all day. It just all boils down to the fact that the BCS is total crap.
How can you leave out an UNDEFEATED major conference team ?
Maybe they will take into account that LSU has only one loss because they were given a gift in the previous game that they had lost if not for the 1st down they received keeping thier last drive alive while being a good foot and a half short.
That will probably be a mute point after this weekend, Alabama should beat them
Jimbo
They should actually do away with the "Coaches poll", seeing most coaches don't do the voting and don't have time to see anything other than highlights anyway.
Jimbo
I agree with ALMOST everything you said until the very end.
Yes, Oregon deserves to be in the 1 loss talk.
You conference championship makes no sense at all, the only reason you have them is to a) make MORE MONEY and b) because you have too many teams in your conference that you have to split them up in two divisions.
Drop the Conferece championship games and start a playoff the first week of December.
16 teams, the rest can play in the rest of the bowl games.
Jimbo
Jim PLEASE let it go....believe me, I would STILL love to complain about the call that went against Miami in the championship game against Ohio State.....but I don't because that is HOW it goes, refs make mistakes.
And my teams WAS left out in the 2000 championship picture when CLEARLY they should have been playing undefeated Oklahoma instead of Florida State.
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