2009 NFL Draft Countdown
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I made an offer in the NFL thread: Our #20 for Quinn. Didn't think Mayhew got my memo....
I'd love to get Curry, but with the signing of Thomas there's talk we're going to pass and could pick up any of a number of guys... OT, DT, WR, or LBs Orakpo/Brown for pass rush reasons. There are so many needs a trade down for more picks would be ideal. Giving Cassel Crabtree to throw at would be pretty cool too.
DJ, Thomas, Vrabel, and Beisel are all expected to be starters currently.
We cut last years 4th round pick that I liked, WR Will Franklin. Didn't do much, but kid was young and pretty fast. With our QB situation how you can evaluate WR talent I have no idea, but in Pioli we trust I guess.
DJ, Thomas, Vrabel, and Beisel are all expected to be starters currently.
We cut last years 4th round pick that I liked, WR Will Franklin. Didn't do much, but kid was young and pretty fast. With our QB situation how you can evaluate WR talent I have no idea, but in Pioli we trust I guess.
If I were the Browns, I'd keep Quinn. But evidently San Francisco's hot for the Mighty Quinn too. This may turn into quite the bidding war. Either that, or Mangini's throwing up smoke signals before the draft.
Patriots late round steals
Tom Brady
Sixth round (199th overall), 2000
Brady is the gold standard for late-round draft value. Everyone knows the story -- the Patriots take a skinny kid out of Michigan to be a fourth-string quarterback. He plugs away as a rookie, making the scout team and biding his time until he gets his chance in the fall of 2001. That’s when Mo Lewis knocks Drew Bledsoe sideways, Brady enters the starting lineup and becomes an NFL MVP and three-time Super Bowl champion.
To their credit, both former Patriots’ GM Scott Pioli and coach Bill Belichick have sloughed off any idea they thought Brady was going to be as good as he was. “If we thought he was going to be this good, I don’t think we would’ve waited for the 199th pick to take him,” Pioli would later say. “We definitely don’t have things figured out. Trust me.”
After Brady was selected, no one asked anything about him in the post-draft press conference. That afternoon, even Belichick offered no more than a mere thumbnail sketch of the man who would become the new crown prince of the NFL: “The value board at that point really just clearly put him as the top value. [Tom] Brady is a guy who has obviously played at a high level of competition in front of a lot of people. He’s been in a lot of pressure situations. We felt that this year, his decision-making was improved from his junior year after he took over for [Brian] Griese and cut his interceptions down. [He’s] a good, tough, competitive, smart quarterback that is a good value, and how he does and what he’ll be able to do. ... we’ll just put him out there with everybody else and let him compete and see what happens.”
Yeah, I’d say that’s worked out OK.
Guys the Patriots took before Brady: Offensive tackle Adrian Klemm (second round), tight end Dave Stachelski (fifth round).
Troy Brown
Eighth round (198th overall), 1993
If Brady is the gold standard for late-round draft value, the 5-foot-10, 196-pound Brown is the silver. The undersized receiver/return man was an eighth-round afterthought when he was taken in 1993, and when he got to camp, he certainly didn’t look like the kind of player who could hang around for the next 15 seasons. (As a rookie, he liked to talk, so much so that annoyed veterans Ben Coates and Bruce Armstrong once put him in a barrel and rolled him down the ramp at Foxboro Stadium.)
But after being waived -- he was the final cut in 1994 out of training camp, but eventually re-signed on Oct. 19 that year -- Brown eventually carved out a niche for himself in New England as a pass catcher who also contributed mightily on special teams. He really started to flourish after Belichick came on board in 2000, becoming an integral part of the Patriots’ three Super Bowl teams. He became one of Brady’s most dependable targets, and he endeared himself to Belichick on several occasions, including a stretch in 2004 where he served as defensive back.
“Troy Brown,” Belichick once said, “is a football-playing dude.”
He ended his career after the 2007 season as the Patriots’ all-time leading receiver with 557 career receptions, and is second all-time in franchise history in overall receiving yards with 6,366.
Guys the Patriots took before Brown: Kicker Scott Sisson (fifth round), defensive back Lawrence Hatch (sixth round).
Christopher Price | The Hot List: Best Late-Round Bargains
BTW, for every late round steal for the Pats, there's been ten times the amount of early round busts!
Tom Brady
Sixth round (199th overall), 2000
Brady is the gold standard for late-round draft value. Everyone knows the story -- the Patriots take a skinny kid out of Michigan to be a fourth-string quarterback. He plugs away as a rookie, making the scout team and biding his time until he gets his chance in the fall of 2001. That’s when Mo Lewis knocks Drew Bledsoe sideways, Brady enters the starting lineup and becomes an NFL MVP and three-time Super Bowl champion.
To their credit, both former Patriots’ GM Scott Pioli and coach Bill Belichick have sloughed off any idea they thought Brady was going to be as good as he was. “If we thought he was going to be this good, I don’t think we would’ve waited for the 199th pick to take him,” Pioli would later say. “We definitely don’t have things figured out. Trust me.”
After Brady was selected, no one asked anything about him in the post-draft press conference. That afternoon, even Belichick offered no more than a mere thumbnail sketch of the man who would become the new crown prince of the NFL: “The value board at that point really just clearly put him as the top value. [Tom] Brady is a guy who has obviously played at a high level of competition in front of a lot of people. He’s been in a lot of pressure situations. We felt that this year, his decision-making was improved from his junior year after he took over for [Brian] Griese and cut his interceptions down. [He’s] a good, tough, competitive, smart quarterback that is a good value, and how he does and what he’ll be able to do. ... we’ll just put him out there with everybody else and let him compete and see what happens.”
Yeah, I’d say that’s worked out OK.
Guys the Patriots took before Brady: Offensive tackle Adrian Klemm (second round), tight end Dave Stachelski (fifth round).
Troy Brown
Eighth round (198th overall), 1993
If Brady is the gold standard for late-round draft value, the 5-foot-10, 196-pound Brown is the silver. The undersized receiver/return man was an eighth-round afterthought when he was taken in 1993, and when he got to camp, he certainly didn’t look like the kind of player who could hang around for the next 15 seasons. (As a rookie, he liked to talk, so much so that annoyed veterans Ben Coates and Bruce Armstrong once put him in a barrel and rolled him down the ramp at Foxboro Stadium.)
But after being waived -- he was the final cut in 1994 out of training camp, but eventually re-signed on Oct. 19 that year -- Brown eventually carved out a niche for himself in New England as a pass catcher who also contributed mightily on special teams. He really started to flourish after Belichick came on board in 2000, becoming an integral part of the Patriots’ three Super Bowl teams. He became one of Brady’s most dependable targets, and he endeared himself to Belichick on several occasions, including a stretch in 2004 where he served as defensive back.
“Troy Brown,” Belichick once said, “is a football-playing dude.”
He ended his career after the 2007 season as the Patriots’ all-time leading receiver with 557 career receptions, and is second all-time in franchise history in overall receiving yards with 6,366.
Guys the Patriots took before Brown: Kicker Scott Sisson (fifth round), defensive back Lawrence Hatch (sixth round).
Christopher Price | The Hot List: Best Late-Round Bargains
BTW, for every late round steal for the Pats, there's been ten times the amount of early round busts!
Tom Brady may have been the biggest "steal" of NFL history. Couldn't say that I saw him coming. He really wasn't that impressive in his days at MICHIGAN.
Don't worry, neither did the Patriots.
They wouldn't have waited to take one of the top 5 quarterbacks in NFL history with the 199th pick!
That's what makes the draft interesting. You never know what you have sometimes till a season or two down the road. Unless you're the Lions, then you just assume that since they drafted him, He must be sh!tty.
Sources: Giants expected to land Edwards
We're officially in rebuild mode.........
We're officially in rebuild mode.........
Sources: Giants expected to land Edwards - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
WTF????
This guy was the biggest candy ass I've seen in college basketball in years. If they kept stats for flopping he'd be the leader. News flash Greg! In football they expect you to stay on your feet.
Two years ago, in 2007 Braylon had a very good year. He just had a case of the dropsies last year.
In '07: 80 receptions, 1,289 yards and 16 touchdowns!
