Paramount +

[ncted]

Maybe it could be HLG HDR? Does anyone know if CBS has started adding it to their broadcast shows? Only TVs that support it would show it as HDR, and possibly only through the native app currently. Everything else would just show it as SDR.

 

[comfortably_numb]

Maybe it could be HLG HDR? Does anyone know if CBS has started adding it to their broadcast shows? Only TVs that support it would show it as HDR, and possibly only through the native app currently. Everything else would just show it as SDR.

I don't know what HLG HDR is, but there has to be some explanation for what's going on.. my app doesn't show HDR for anything, but some movies trigger the flag. Bruce's app shows HDR for almost everything but it isn't clear if he's actually receiving true HDR.

 

[Bruce]

I don't know what HLG HDR is, but there has to be some explanation for what's going on.. my app doesn't show HDR for anything, but some movies trigger the flag. Bruce's app shows HDR for almost everything but it isn't clear if he's actually receiving true HDR.

Again, I receive HDR when it is HDR only, when it is available in both, HDR or DV, it goes to DV as my above photo showed with Seal Team.

I have a bunch of Discs with HDR 10, a lot of Marvel movies, the HDR 10 symbol on my TV automatically pops up

 

[comfortably_numb]

Again, I receive HDR when it is HDR only, when it is available in both, HDR or DV, it goes to DV as my above photo showed with Seal Team.

Then why don't I see HDR on those shows but I have it on the movies P+ lists? Makes no sense and you have yet to explain a potential reason why.

 

[ncted]

Then why don't I see HDR on those shows but I have it on the movies P+ lists? Makes no sense and you have yet to explain a potential reason why.

I don't know what HLG HDR is, but there has to be some explanation for what's going on.. my app doesn't show HDR for anything, but some movies trigger the flag. Bruce's app shows HDR for almost everything but it isn't clear if he's actually receiving true HDR.

HLG HDR is the broadcast standard for HDR. It is designed to allow one signal to contain both SDR and HDR information. If CBS has started including it in the shows they broadcast, then maybe they are starting to include it in those shows on Paramount+. Of course, the support for that standard would have to exist in hardware and software. It could be that Bruce has the right combination of HW/SW while the rest of us do not. The fact that his TV just says Smart HDR, instead of HDR10, HDR10+, or DV is what made me consider the possibility. Just speculation on my part, but it is all I can think of at the moment.

 

[comfortably_numb]

The fact that his TV just says Smart HDR

Smart HDR isn't real HDR

"cheap "HDR" TVs use 8-bit color with dithering to attempt to fake 10-bit HDR, use settings like "vivid" and "bright" to create color profiles, creating this false marketing technique as if HDR is a filter."


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/tcltvs/comments/12hwqai/whats_the_difference_between_hdr_and_smart_hdr/

 

[b4pjoe]

Maybe it could be HLG HDR? Does anyone know if CBS has started adding it to their broadcast shows? Only TVs that support it would show it as HDR, and possibly only through the native app currently. Everything else would just show it as SDR.

On DIRECTV the broadcast shows are HD 1080i.

 

[b4pjoe]

Then why don't I see HDR on those shows but I have it on the movies P+ lists? Makes no sense and you have yet to explain a potential reason why.

Because of the Paramount+ app for each device. It seems only the Roku app includes 4K HDR while the LG app and the Apple TV app only includes 4K with no HDR and the Amazon app is only HD on my Cube. The movies that are 4K does say Dolby Vision, at least on my Apple TV, which is also HDR but just Dolby's version of it. It would be nice if all of the different platforms Paramount+ app were the same.

 

[Bruce]

Then why don't I see HDR on those shows but I have it on the movies P+ lists? Makes no sense and you have yet to explain a potential reason why.

Maybe your devices do not support it.

How many photos do I have to put up to show it is available.

Once I hook up my Roku back up, I will see if the HDR symbols that Paramount puts up on my TV’s app, is on the Roku’s app.

 

[ncted]

On DIRECTV the broadcast shows are HD 1080i.

Yes, but with ATSC 3.0, you can have 2160p and HDR.

 

[comfortably_numb]

Maybe your devices do not support it.

Obviously they do if movies on P+ trigger the HDR flag on my TV. If you're seeing "Smart HDR" on your TV, it's *not real HDR* see my link above..

 

[b4pjoe]

Maybe your devices do not support it.

How many photos do I have to put up to show it is available.

Once I hook up my Roku back up, I will see if the HDR symbols that Paramount puts up on my TV’s app, is on the Roku’s app.

I thought the previous photos you posted were from your ROKU? Where were they from?

 

[Bruce]

Smart HDR isn't real HDR

"cheap "HDR" TVs use 8-bit color with dithering to attempt to fake 10-bit HDR, use settings like "vivid" and "bright" to create color profiles, creating this false marketing technique as if HDR is a filter."

My TV has a 10 bit panel, from rtings’ review-

The TCL QM8/QM851G QLED is the highest-end offering in TCL's 2024 North American QLED lineup and sits above the TCL QM7/QM751G QLED. It uses TCL's AIPQ Engine Gen3 processor and is advertised as being over twice as bright as its predecessor, with up to 5000 dimming zones depending on the size. The TV is loaded with features like Dolby Vision and HDR10+, HDMI 2.1 bandwidth, 4k @ 144Hz, 1080p @ 240Hz, and VRR support.

TCL QM8/QM851G QLED Review (65QM851G, 75QM851G , 85QM851G , 98QM851G)

The TCL QM8/QM851G QLED is the highest-end offering in TCL's 2024 North American QLED lineup and sits above the TCL QM7/QM751G QLED. It uses TCL's AIPQ Engine Ge...

www.rtings.com

 

[b4pjoe]

Yes, but with ATSC 3.0, you can have 2160p and HDR.

I don't have ATSC 3.0 to check.

 

[comfortably_numb]

I don't have ATSC 3.0 to check.

Nobody is broadcasting 4K HDR on ATSC 3.0 yet, AFAIK, so nothing to check

 

[ncted]

Smart HDR isn't real HDR

"cheap "HDR" TVs use 8-bit color with dithering to attempt to fake 10-bit HDR, use settings like "vivid" and "bright" to create color profiles, creating this false marketing technique as if HDR is a filter."


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/tcltvs/comments/12hwqai/whats_the_difference_between_hdr_and_smart_hdr/

I'm gonna need more than a Reddit post. Looking at TCL's website, but it is useless so far.

 

[ncted]

Nobody us using 4K HDR on ATSC 3.0 yet, AFAIK, so nothing to check

There are a number of stations broadcasting ATSC 3.0 actually. I wouldn't be surprised if the networks are getting ready for the transition.

 

[Bruce]

I though the previous photos you posted were from your ROKU? Where were they from?

My TV which uses Google.

I built a new stand ( out of 3 stands) last night, because I did not have enough room for all my components and I wanted something that was the width of the TV (98”) for proper center channel placement.

Roku will be hooked back up after my work out, I am typing all this while I am outside on my LifeCycle, incredibly hard to focus while pedaling.

 

[Bruce]

Obviously they do if movies on P+ trigger the HDR flag on my TV. If you're seeing "Smart HDR" on your TV, it's *not real HDR* see my link above..

Once again-

The TCL QM8/QM851G QLED is the highest-end offering in TCL's 2024 North American QLED lineup and sits above the TCL QM7/QM751G QLED. It uses TCL's AIPQ Engine Gen3 processor and is advertised as being over twice as bright as its predecessor, with up to 5000 dimming zones depending on the size. The TV is loaded with features like Dolby Vision and HDR10+, HDMI 2.1 bandwidth, 4k @ 144Hz, 1080p @ 240Hz, and VRR support.

 

[Bruce]

I don't have ATSC 3.0 to check.

I do.

There are a number of stations broadcasting ATSC 3.0 actually. I wouldn't be surprised if the networks are getting ready for the transition.

It is just stations broadcasting their OTA signals, but up converting it to 4K.

It is better, mostly because of the higher bandwidth ( no sub channels robbing from the signal yet), but not real 4K.

As far as the transition, there are some patent issues they need to solve, plus the fact they cannot figure out how to monetize it yet.