NCAA Football 2012-13 off season

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Yeah, I read that yesterday.

I for one love the hate. If the SEC was not winning, the author would not have bothered to write it.

It is pretty laughable how he cherry picks his data.


Very much so, and of course it starts with
Is the SEC really the best conference in college football "top to bottom," as it's so often described? And if it is, why since the start of the BCS era in 1998 does the conference have overall losing records against the Pac-12 (11-12) and Big East (19-23)

But if you look at the games, and the match ups you will find in a good portion of those games it was the Cream of the big east or pac 12 going against a middle to bottom tier SEC team. (for instance Clemson playing South Carolina every year) Up until a few years ago when Steve Spurrier took control of SC they were a bottom of the road SEC team, Clemson of course being in the top of its conference kind of an unfair match up. Now that SC is a middle to upper SEC team, they have been dominating Clemson (who is also the top 1-2 teams in the ACC for the last several years)..
 
When the game is rigged (stupid polls, etc), you win.


The "rigged" polls can only get you in the game, you still have to win it on the field. And the SEC is undefeated in the BCS title game.

8 titles since the BCS started in 1998. (should of been 9 we all know Auburn got screwed)
 
Yeah, because the SEC was tops there. ;)

No I was saying that Uconn, Syracuse, Pitt and a lot more of the Big East teams got the high ranking at the beginning of the year and with how many teams make it to the tournament from the Big East because of reputation.
 
Very much so, and of course it starts with


But if you look at the games, and the match ups you will find in a good portion of those games it was the Cream of the big east or pac 12 going against a middle to bottom tier SEC team. (for instance Clemson playing South Carolina every year) Up until a few years ago when Steve Spurrier took control of SC they were a bottom of the road SEC team, Clemson of course being in the top of its conference kind of an unfair match up. Now that SC is a middle to upper SEC team, they have been dominating Clemson (who is also the top 1-2 teams in the ACC for the last several years)..

Let's hear your explanation of my Buffs knocking off Georgia a couple of years ago and I guarantee we weren't the cream of the crop (even had a coach that was the cream of the crap). I still lhear the wails and excuses from Utah kicking the crap out of Bama in a bowl game. Problem with the excuses is you SEC fans like to purport some exhalted status until it doesn't suit your arguments. Like it or not, this article had a lot of valid points even though I agree that any stats can be skewed to suit a given situation.
 
Let's hear your explanation of my Buffs knocking off Georgia a couple of years ago and I guarantee we weren't the cream of the crop (even had a coach that was the cream of the crap). I still lhear the wails and excuses from Utah kicking the crap out of Bama in a bowl game. Problem with the excuses is you SEC fans like to purport some exhalted status until it doesn't suit your arguments. Like it or not, this article had a lot of valid points even though I agree that any stats can be skewed to suit a given situation.

:rolleyes:
 
Let's hear your explanation of my Buffs knocking off Georgia a couple of years ago and I guarantee we weren't the cream of the crop (even had a coach that was the cream of the crap).
There are always exceptions for whatever reason, but his point was a valid one. Often times, especially in bowl games, the lower ranked SEC schools get paired against higher rated (in conference) competition. It has been the norm for two SEC teams to be in the BCS so when you get to the top "other bowls" you start with at best the 3rd highest rated SEC school.

I still lhear the wails and excuses from Utah kicking the crap out of Bama in a bowl game.
As much as I hate it, they waxed us that game, for whatever reason. No excuses from this Bama fan for losing that one. We did, they won, and I congratulate them for it.
That said, I still think we were much better team than that game demonstrated. (and that is not meant as an excuse)

Problem with the excuses is you SEC fans like to purport some exhalted status until it doesn't suit your arguments. Like it or not, this article had a lot of valid points even though I agree that any stats can be skewed to suit a given situation.


It had a lot of cherry picked info, all of it may very well gave been true, but it was mostly irrelevant in proving that the SEC has not been the dominant conference in the recent past (2006), which is the time that most SEC fans started getting a real sense of unity, and conference pride.

Using Bama again as an example. They just had the best four year run as far as records go in school history. If this article were specifically about the Tide, it would be pointing out that they were subpar in the early part of the 2000s and that somehow makes the last four years less dominant. That is how it read to me anyway.
 
Just a note. I don't hate the SEC and enjoy their games - watch most of them (even put up with those yoyos announcing on CBS). Don't begrudge the SEC fans their passion - actually enjoy getting your dander up (hell, I still contend if the South had won the war this country wouldn't be in the mess it is now and states would still have some say). I just enjoy college football and as an old fart that goes back to days when money wasn't the almighty god of the sport, miss some of the purity. Just get tired of all the hype and the bias that truly does exist and a lot of it is because of the money.
 
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Yep. It is always rigged if you arent winning.

You SEC homers are just hopeless. You're seriously comparing the basketball and football championship selections? Seriously?

First of all, you can't even compare the seasons. Part of the problem/greatness of football is a very limited sample size. Even if teams got in on reputation in basketball (which most sane people would say doesn't happen anyway) you can't hide behind wins and losses in basketball. Most of the tournament field settles itself on the court.

Second, football has stupid biased polls in their championship equation. If that's not a rig fest, I don't know what is.

Is the article over the top? Sure. But it does notate what many outside of Dixie complain about.
 
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Since you quoted me in the rant, please point out where I compared the Football and basketball postseason.

My agreeing with the premise of Toms post (which is what my quoted post addressed) did nothing of the sort and I doubt that is really what he was doing, as a non sec Homer I might add, either.

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Let's hear your explanation of my Buffs knocking off Georgia a couple of years ago and I guarantee we weren't the cream of the crop (even had a coach that was the cream of the crap). I still lhear the wails and excuses from Utah kicking the crap out of Bama in a bowl game. Problem with the excuses is you SEC fans like to purport some exhalted status until it doesn't suit your arguments. Like it or not, this article had a lot of valid points even though I agree that any stats can be skewed to suit a given situation.


Ya know the saying "any given sunday". It rains true in the College just as it does in the NFL. You can find those "underdog" victories in any conference/team etc. Washington beating USC, etc

As far as Utah beating Alabama goes, that was a great win for them. Being coached by the man who lead FLA with there 2 BCS titles. Where are they now though? Not even on a radar..

Point is everyone can have that "1" good game or season (lets take Boise state.. 4 good years or so, but now where will they be without that superstar under center?)

But great teams and conferences produce over and over, they may have a few slumps (see Michigan, or Ohio st, or Alabama Pre 2009, or Tennesee today) etc, but they always come back and prove why they earned the reputation they have.

The last Decade of college football has been completely dominated by the SEC. Even when Texas had its stud Colt Mccoy leading the way, they couldnt get past the SEC.
 
Speaking of the Pac-12, could use some help in getting DirecTV to pick up the Pac-12 Network. All the info available is that "they are in negotiations". If you have a minute how about dropping them an e-mail or give them a call. I asked for the programming department and they did put me through and the guy I talked to said that calls like mine do really help. He even gave me a month of the sport package free and I was just getting ready to sign up anyway.
 
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