NCAA Football 2011-2012

I remember that, but I don't remember all of us shooting it down. There were just as many that liked it as disliked it, while most didn't bother to comment. For the record, I liked it.

OK, seeing Paul doesn't show up much anymore, can you and I present it to the NCAA Presidents ?
 
Write up the proposal and show me where to sign. ;)

We would have to have a separate thread to get all the kinks worked out, however you know not even the people here would be able to agree on it, so you know the NCAA won't ...

I believe I have seen that people HAVE drafted that type of thing for them already.
 
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We would have to have a separate thread to get all the kinks worked out, however you know not even the people here would be able to agree on it, so you know the NCAA won't ...

I believe I have seen that people HAVE drafted that type of thing for them already.

They in over their heads anyway trying to grab hold of all these conferences and their realignments.
 
They in over their heads anyway trying to grab hold of all these conferences and their realignments.

Something I read the other day could change all that.

Something about doing away with the Conference tie ins with the AQ conferences.

IF they did away with that, then all these schools would not be jumping into other conferences.

This would also free up the Only 2 teams per conference stuff and help the dreaded sec all the more, potentially.
 
Haven't heard that. I hope they stop it somehow. Soon we might have teams from the west coast in conferences on the east coast, and teams from the south playing in the snow up north (that last part is just BS I know ;)).
 
I would go for that, especially if WV/Cincinnati and Houston get BCS bowl invitations over a possible 11-1 LSU, which could easily happen.

Horrible idea dude.. the only reason you are up for it means you could have 3-4 teams from the same Conf in the top 10 at the end of the season and that's LAME!!! And yea I'm talking about the SEC having so much bias in the voting that unless you do a playoff to prove who's who on the field the voting will always swing the direction away from other teams whom could be better and towards the SEC or Big12... any one that says otherwise is fooling themselves. I don't like the current BCS setup but its far better than this idea but the best solution is a 16team playoff.
 
Horrible idea dude.. the only reason you are up for it means you could have 3-4 teams from the same Conf in the top 10 at the end of the season and that's LAME!!! And yea I'm talking about the SEC having so much bias in the voting that unless you do a playoff to prove who's who on the field the voting will always swing the direction away from other teams whom could be better and towards the SEC or Big12... any one that says otherwise is fooling themselves. I don't like the current BCS setup but its far better than this idea but the best solution is a 16team playoff.
Lol! Now you funny!

I'm all for a playoff, who wouldn't be if they wanted to be fair. But until that happens, lower ranked teams who play nobody getting an automatic bid to a BCS bowl above a 1 loss team that was in first place most of the season is asinine. Do you think it's fair that Cincy or Houston could both get into a BCS bowl above LSU this year, especially if LSU finishes 11-1 having beaten both teams that could possibly be playing in the BCSCG? There's a scenario where we could see that very thing happen. Getting rid of AQ's will stop this kind of lame crap.
 
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Lol! Now you funny!

I'm all for a playoff, who wouldn't be if they wanted to be fair. But until that happens, lower ranked teams who play nobody getting an automatic bid to a BCS bowl above a 1 loss team that was in first place most of the season is asinine. Do you think it's fair that Cincy or Houston could both get into a BCS bowl above LSU this year, especially if LSU finishes 11-1 having beaten both teams that could possibly be playing in the BCSCG? There's a scenario where we could see that very thing happen. Getting rid of AQ's will stop this kind of lame crap.

Cincy is from the "SMALL" East so right now they shouldn't cause of the amount of teams left in that Conf....should be some sorta clause but the way it was subjected to happen it would be possible for 4 SEC teams or 4 ACC Teams or 4 Big 12 teams for example to all get into ALL the BCS bowl games and knock out champs from the other respectable conferences no matter what teams they play. You could say for the sake of saying it - LSU, Bama, Ark and Georgia for example could get places in them and kick out Clemson, Wisc and a few others from spots they deserve if they win their conference which puts more money into the hands of those teams and their conferences. You do this and you turn it into a unfair monopoly based on what voters THINK the teams should be not where they could be based on field production.

As for Houston and LSU...well depends on who LSU loses to and when..they could still take the #1 spot behind Alabama if they are still in the mix to play in the Sugar bowl anyway but right now that's Alabama's projected spot putting them against Houston. I'd watch that game considering for once we may see some Offense. As of now they have Clemson pitted against Cincy in the ORange bowl and that would be a sh!tty game IMO as Cincy just isn't as good as either Clemson or VT no matter who wins the ACC...either team deserves to play against a top 5 team regardless to earn respect win or lose.
 
...You could say for the sake of saying it - LSU, Bama, Ark and Georgia for example could get places in them and kick out Clemson, Wisc and a few others from spots they deserve if they win their conference which puts more money into the hands of those teams and their conferences. You do this and you turn it into a unfair monopoly based on what voters THINK the teams should be not where they could be based on field production...
Good point dvr. :)
 
As for Houston and LSU...well depends on who LSU loses to and when..they could still take the #1 spot behind Alabama if they are still in the mix to play in the Sugar bowl anyway but right now that's Alabama's projected spot putting them against Houston. I'd watch that game considering for once we may see some Offense.

What in any game Bama has played in would lead you to believe that you would see an offense be effective against them?
Surely you do not think that Houston, with stats padded against one of the easiest schedules in college football and with the starters in the whole game to pad said stats, would succeed where every other team that has played them has failed?

The only offense you would see in a game pitting either LSU or Bama versus Houston would be from one of the former teams, not the latter.

Of course if you have a differing viewpoint that is backed up by any kind of stat or reasonable argument I would love to hear it. :)
 
What in any game Bama has played in would lead you to believe that you would see an offense be effective against them?
Surely you do not think that Houston, with stats padded against one of the easiest schedules in college football and with the starters in the whole game to pad said stats, would succeed where every other team that has played them has failed?

The only offense you would see in a game pitting either LSU or Bama versus Houston would be from one of the former teams, not the latter.

Of course if you have a differing viewpoint that is backed up by any kind of stat or reasonable argument I would love to hear it. :)

Ohh I'm sure Houston could hang with their offense for at least the first half after that prob not.... while I think Houston is good and deserve where they are, they just don't have the depth that Alabama has so putting them into a at large spot against them would be pointless for a full game worth of action. NOW that could change if Alabama like any other good team make alot of mistakes and turn overs while also using their FG kickers to help get points ;)
 
I would say that Houston might get lucky and score 10, MAYBE. Thats if they do like Florida and pull the trigger on a big play right at the start and catch the defense sleeping. Bama has shown though, that they may bend occasionally, but they very rarely break. Houston has played nothing like that this year.
In the SEC, or a couple of other conferences, they would be very fortunate to break even IMO. I would say every team in the SEC West besides Ole Miss would beat them.
In the East, they would lose to USC, Georgia, Florida, and Vandy (that feels weird saying). They might be on part with Tenn (from the second part of the season), or Kentucky.

They have wins, but it is against subpar competition.
 
What in any game Bama has played in would lead you to believe that you would see an offense be effective against them?
Surely you do not think that Houston, with stats padded against one of the easiest schedules in college football and with the starters in the whole game to pad said stats, would succeed where every other team that has played them has failed?

The only offense you would see in a game pitting either LSU or Bama versus Houston would be from one of the former teams, not the latter.

Of course if you have a differing viewpoint that is backed up by any kind of stat or reasonable argument I would love to hear it. :)

What good, or even respectable, offense has Bama played against this year?

LSU? Nope.
Penn St? Nope.

The only reasonable one has been Arkansas, but I'm still not convinced.

Oregon and Bama in the Sugar would be very interesting...
 
Bama has only played 3 teams with above 500 records. LSU, Penn St and Arkansas. I believe they have a good defense, no doubt, but I don't think their offense is as good as it is hyped to be. They might hold OSU, OU, or Oregon to say 28pts, but I don't think their offense could match that. I think LSU's defense makes up for its offenses inconsistencies too. It's all opinion though, until they actually play each other.
 
Bama has only played 3 teams with above 500 records. LSU, Penn St and Arkansas.

Above 500? ok, Oklahoma has played 5 to this point, including powerhouse teams like Tulsa and Ball State, along with FSU (decent), Texas (not that good, Missouri showed that), and K State (really?)

OK State has that same powerhouse Tulsa team, plus Texas, everyones nightmare in Baylor, and K state (again, really?) at four.
Oregon got waxed by LSU already, so I wont go any farther than that.
I believe they have a good defense, no doubt, but I don't think their offense is as good as it is hyped to be.
Nobody here has "hyped" their offense, but we have said it isnt bad, as many wanted to say after they didnt score a ton on one of the best defenses in the nation.

They might hold OSU, OU, or Oregon to say 28pts, but I don't think their offense could match that.
Considering that they have given up much less than that to every team played, and only scored less than 28 three times, once by a point, another by three points, I dont think that holds water. Not withstanding the head to head comparison of Oregon versus LSU compared to Bama versus LSU.


 

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