NCAA Football 2011-2012

[mccoyrj]

What if OSU wins out and LSU beats Arkansas, but loses to Georgia in the SECCG. You could then have OSU going to the BCS championship and Alabama, Oregon, and LSU all with one loss wanting in. With both Alabama and Oregon's one loss at the hands of LSU, who should play OSU?

 

[Ronnie-]

What if OSU wins out and LSU beats Arkansas, but loses to Georgia in the SECCG. You could then have OSU going to the BCS championship and Alabama, Oregon, and LSU all with one loss wanting in. Both Alabama and Oregon's one loss was at the hands of LSU. Who should play OSU?

Should? Or would?
In that scenario, I dont see Bama dropping without a loss. Since you dont give them one, I see them jumping to number 2, and LSU slotting in around 3 or so. Which would make it OSU/Bama for the BCS.

 

[mccoyrj]

Should? Or would?
In that scenario, I dont see Bama dropping without a loss. Since you dont give them one, I see them jumping to number 2, and LSU slotting in around 3 or so. Which would make it OSU/Bama for the BCS.

But what about the pollsters? They might find it hard to put Alabama in the big game over LSU. I mean, Bama did lose to LSU...which Bama fans seem to dismiss.

 

[Ronnie-]

But what about the pollsters? They might find it hard to put Alabama in the big game over LSU. I mean, Bama did lose to LSU...which Bama fans seem to dismiss.

That is true, but they tend to focus often on the last loss, not one a few weeks ago. I just dont see them dropping Bama for not playing if LSU loses to a non top ten team (that is playing very well right now I might add).

 

[mccoyrj]

Have you ever thought about Bama's computer rankings possibly dropping? Penn State could easily lose their next two games, which won't help the Tide. If the Auburn game is close, it could also affect the pollsters on where Alabama finishes in the regular season polls.

This is all hypothetical of course. LSU has to take care of business against Ole Miss and Arkansas, which won't be easy at all. I think LSU's toughest game of the regular season is going to be that last one in Baton Rouge. Arkansas has had the Tiger's number the last few years, and LSU will be under a lot more pressure to win than even they were in Tuscaloosa. Should be an exciting finish. Hope I'm smiling at the end of it all.

 

[yaz96]

So, you think Houston should be ahead of Clemson and VT with their 1 loss each? I mean they both play in the weak ACC, don't they?

Doesn't matter what I think does it..yall seem to remind me of that a lot.

You didn't answer the question....you are upset that Houston isn't getting the respect it deserves....

Do you think an undefeated Houston should be ahead of Clemson and VT with their 1 loss each?

 

[salsadancer7]

You didn't answer the question....you are upset that Houston isn't getting the respect it deserves....

Do you think and undefeated Houston should be ahead of Clemson and VT with their 1 loss each?

Better question is...does he think undefeated Houston is better than Boise State? Never mind the fact the last time Houston was worth talking about as far as university sports was when they had Phi Slamma Gamma with Clyde Drexler, Akeem Olajuwan and the rest of the high flyers.

 

[dvrexpander]

You didn't answer the question....you are upset that Houston isn't getting the respect it deserves....

Do you think an undefeated Houston should be ahead of Clemson and VT with their 1 loss each?

I answered it.. I said it Doesn't matter what I think. I keep getting reminded here constantly but this is only a bait attempt so I'll leave it at that answer.

Lets ask a better question - Do I think Houston should be ahead of all the 1 loss teams in the top 20? Nope....there are many 1 loss teams that are most likely better just slipped up at some point such as Oklahoma whom had a few top players out and all other kinds of factors. This sorta thing applies to every 1 loss team right now.. Alabama's fault was its kicker was either drunk or just blind and it's offense hadn't gotten off the bus by games end. If you wish to stick to VT at the sake of jabbing me even more you could say Logan Thomas and a few others needed a beat down to wake them up and fire them up for the remainder of the season as they look like a completely different team now. So lay out that question like I did and you get a answer like I gave for just a few examples not just Clemson or Virginia Tech.... gets old to have a jab constantly in my direction on regards to what team I pull for or what Conference they fall into.

 

[The Insider]

????
We all know that VA TECH IS your team...

Personally, I agree with Insider, I don't see any way that Va Tech makes the MNC game.

Great place for 4 a PLAYOFF eh...
Of course it's always a great place for a playoff if your team is not #1 or #2.

Even with a 4 team playoff Vtech dont make it. You have LSU, Bama, Oregon, OKS, and Oklahoma all way ahead.

 

[yaz96]

So, you think Houston should be ahead of Clemson and VT with their 1 loss each? I mean they both play in the weak ACC, don't they?

I think that's BS... a lot could happen but a long shot to say the least.

Doesn't matter what I think does it..yall seem to remind me of that a lot.

I answered it.. I said it Doesn't matter what I think. I keep getting reminded here constantly but this is only a bait attempt so I'll leave it at that answer.

Lets ask a better question - Do I think Houston should be ahead of all the 1 loss teams in the top 20? Nope....there are many 1 loss teams that are most likely better just slipped up at some point such as Oklahoma whom had a few top players out and all other kinds of factors. This sorta thing applies to every 1 loss team right now.. Alabama's fault was its kicker was either drunk or just blind and it's offense hadn't gotten off the bus by games end. If you wish to stick to VT at the sake of jabbing me even more you could say Logan Thomas and a few others needed a beat down to wake them up and fire them up for the remainder of the season as they look like a completely different team now. So lay out that question like I did and you get a answer like I gave for just a few examples not just Clemson or Virginia Tech.... gets old to have a jab constantly in my direction on regards to what team I pull for or what Conference they fall into.

I only grabbed them because they are #7 and #8, just a coincidence they are in the same conference. The top 6 are solid, no way Houston is ahead of them. That's why I asked the question about 7 and 8.

 

[dvrexpander]

Even with a 4 team playoff Vtech dont make it. You have LSU, Bama, Oregon, OKS, and Oklahoma all way ahead.

If I was to setup a play off..I'd do it with the top 16 teams.. 8 games then down to 4 games and 2 then final game..that would run each team thru first week of Jan just as the current NC game is held...this would keep teams in shape since they wouldn't go a month like so many do between the last game to the bowl game that so many play as it is. This should cover any team undefeated like Houston a chance to run the table to get to the title game just like in Basketball.

I only grabbed them because they are #7 and #8, just a coincidence they are in the same conference. The top 6 are solid, no way Houston is ahead of them. That's why I asked the question about 7 and 8.

I disagree about he top 6 being solid... look at who each team plays here and the chances for each team to go down not once but twice...ya just don't know...unlikely yes, possible yes. I don't see any team in the top 10 as a solid team to be #1 or #2 at this point..just not possible with so much ball left to play.

 

[The Insider]

If I was to setup a play off..I'd do it with the top 16 teams.. 8 games then down to 4 games and 2 then final game..that would run each team thru first week of Jan just as the current NC game is held...this would keep teams in shape since they wouldn't go a month like so many do between the last game to the bowl game that so many play as it is. This should cover any team undefeated like Houston a chance to run the table to get to the title game just like in Basketball.



I disagree about he top 6 being solid... look at who each team plays here and the chances for each team to go down not once but twice...ya just don't know...unlikely yes, possible yes. I don't see any team in the top 10 as a solid team to be #1 or #2 at this point..just not possible with so much ball left to play.

I agree, 16 teams would be good, id do a conference tie in. Do all conference champs plus the rest of the teams be "wild cards" based on rankings.

And I really think its just wishful thinking that the top 1/2 are not pretty much set. And by set I mean it will 2 of the teams in the top 6 without much doubt. I think msmith is having some very wishful thinking to think there is a scenerio that Alabama jumps LSU. Even if Arkansas beats LSU I do not think Alabama goes above LSU. I think we see a shift down. LSU Maybe drops to 3rd and Bama and Arkansas battle for 4th and 5th. Yes I know how do you keep LSU above Arkansas after the loss, same question is how do you keep Alabama ahead of LSU but behind Arkansas who it beat..

I think LSUs strength of scedule will be more then enough to keep it ahead of both those teams in the computers which is 1/3 of the vote. I think the voters will also see that LSU is the better team. That is unless Arkansas just blows them away. It has to be a close game.

 

[mccoyrj]

... Alabama's fault was its kicker was either drunk or just blind and it's offense hadn't gotten off the bus by games end...

Remarks like this are why most of us dismiss anything you have to say. Every kick that kid missed that night was close to 50 yards or beyond. The one kick that was blocked was well over 40 yards. He did make the two high percentage kicks with no problem, a fact you conveniently ignore. And let's not even mention that they were facing one of the better defenses in the league.

How many 50 yard kicks have your Hokies made? None...I know, I know, why make this about VT, blah, blah, blah.

 

[Ronnie-]

Yeah, I dont think one could argue one being better than the other between the three teams if one beat the other, that beat the other, that beat the other. Especially if the Arkansas/LSU game is close, considering the margin of victory of Bama over Arkansas. Im in dvrs hypothetical land obviously .

Bama didnt drop much because they lost to number one. If LSU loses to number 6, they will drop below number 3, and with a bama win the same week, I just dont see them dropping.
Of course, how the tie goes for the SEC CG will play heavily into all of this.

 

[dvrexpander]

Remarks like this are why most of us dismiss anything you have to say. Every kick that kid missed that night was close to 50 yards or beyond. The one kick that was blocked was well over 40 yards. He did make the two high percentage kicks with no problem, a fact you conveniently ignore. And let's not even mention that they were facing one of the better defenses in the league.

How many 50 yard kicks have your Hokies made? None...I know, I know, why make this about VT, blah, blah, blah.

lol you funny!

 

[Ronnie-]

He is!!!

 

[mccoyrj]

lol you funny!

 

[mccoyrj]

Smith, if LSU runs the gamut, and Bama sneaks through the backdoor to meet each other again in the BCSCG, you gumps aren't going to excuse another loss to LSU because it was played in New Orleans are you?

 

[Jimbo]

If I was to setup a play off..I'd do it with the top 16 teams.. 8 games then down to 4 games and 2 then final game..that would run each team thru first week of Jan just as the current NC game is held...this would keep teams in shape since they wouldn't go a month like so many do between the last game to the bowl game that so many play as it is. This should cover any team undefeated like Houston a chance to run the table to get to the title game just like in Basketball.



I disagree about he top 6 being solid... look at who each team plays here and the chances for each team to go down not once but twice...ya just don't know...unlikely yes, possible yes. I don't see any team in the top 10 as a solid team to be #1 or #2 at this point..just not possible with so much ball left to play.

I tried to include a lot of teams years ago and you all shot down the top 12 into a playoff, now it's a good idea ?

16 would be great as far as I'm concerned, but it ain't gonna happen.

Problem I had back then was that the fans would not go to any of the games till the last one, that your fans from "ANY" team would not be able to travel for 4 weeks and expect your typical showing.

I should say Paul and I had this all figured out, but you would have to go back to the threads from back around '06 or so to see them again.

 

[mccoyrj]

I tried to include a lot of teams years ago and you all shot down the top 12 into a playoff, now it's a good idea ?

16 would be great as far as I'm concerned, but it ain't gonna happen.

Problem I had back then was that the fans would not go to any of the games till the last one, that your fans from "ANY" team would not be able to travel for 4 weeks and expect your typical showing.

I should say Paul and I had this all figured out, but you would have to go back to the threads from back around '06 or so to see them again.

I remember that, but I don't remember all of us shooting it down. There were just as many that liked it as disliked it, while most didn't bother to comment. For the record, I liked it.