NCAA Football 2011-2012

Oklahoma isn't anywhere near the Pacific Coast either.
OU and OSU will come out of this re-alignment process in a decent conference, one way or the other. Texas is a beast, they can do what they want, even go independent. I feel for Kansas, K State and Texas Tech, for the uncertainty they must be facing. Iowa State and Baylor don't deserve a major conference. I really hope A&M ends up in the WAC.

Maybe when the dust settles we can scrap the BCS bowl format, since the confernce affiliations will change. It might clear the way for a Div-1A playoff.
 
The stadium will be in the same place it always was, they're not going to pick up the Texas stadium and move it to Virginia. If fans don't like traveling far distances to see their team play at other stadiums than they should stay home and watch it on TV.

I have no problem with teams moving or making 16 or 20 team super conferences. There will be top schools and bottom schools, doesn't matter and if a team doesn't make it into a super conference than they aren't good enough and move to a lower tier. If you want to play with the big boys than get better.

Wow..you missed the point all together. You stay at home... Fans love to follow teams but you do know many people are fans but don't have much money right now? I can travel away to see games for VT that many are just under 5hours drive..that's EASY!! When you start adding in teams that are several states away - that's NOT EASY!

You sound like someone with alot of money and someone that thinks everyone has alot of it to burn... think about it a little more.
 
Wow..you missed the point all together. You stay at home... Fans love to follow teams but you do know many people are fans but don't have much money right now? I can travel away to see games for VT that many are just under 5hours drive..that's EASY!! When you start adding in teams that are several states away - that's NOT EASY!

You sound like someone with alot of money and someone that thinks everyone has alot of it to burn... think about it a little more.

No, you are wrong. Most fans don't travel long distances so they watch TV. I would never go to an away game because 1) I can't even afford to see home games 2)Most of the away teams seating that is left is way up, not worth going.

I saw Pitt at Penn State, bad seats, I saw the Steelers at Cleveland, bad seats. Most of the good seats are held by season ticket holders who wont give it away. I would rather watch a game on TV than sit in a seat either so far up my nose will bleed or I'm sitting behind a pole.
 
No, you are wrong. Most fans don't travel long distances so they watch TV. I would never go to an away game because 1) I can't even afford to see home games 2)Most of the away teams seating that is left is way up, not worth going.

I saw Pitt at Penn State, bad seats, I saw the Steelers at Cleveland, bad seats. Most of the good seats are held by season ticket holders who wont give it away. I would rather watch a game on TV than sit in a seat either so far up my nose will bleed or I'm sitting behind a pole.

While most fans don't travel some do and this only hurts those that still travel now. However we both agree on one thing, we would rather watch on TV in comfort of home rather than get stuck in bad seats but I do enjoy sometimes seeing new fields which is why I flew out to see VT play Nebraska a few years back.
 
riffjim4069 said:
All this conference "stuff" is teetering on the insane...expended-conferences grow into super-conferences grown into 2 or 3 mega-conferences. College football should be more about "student" athletics and less about the pursuit of television and sponsor dollars.

Why screw-up all this chest pounding conference rant with perfectly sound logic? ;-)
 
Boise State gets NCAA probation, scholarship cuts

September 13, 2011 5:26 PM
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

BOISE, Idaho — The NCAA placed Boise State on probation for three years and imposed other sanctions Tuesday for major violations by the football program and other sports.

The sanctions included a public reprimand, a one-year postseason ban for women's tennis and recruiting restrictions and scholarship reductions. Some of the penalties had previously been self-imposed by the university.

Boise State's football program will be able to offer three fewer scholarships each year, from 85 to 82, through the 2013-14 season. The football team will also be allowed fewer contact practices during spring training for three years.

Gregory Sankey, associate commissioner of the Southeastern Conference and a member of the NCAA Committee on Infractions, said the committee opted to go beyond the penalties that Boise State imposed on itself because the violations took place over multiple years.

Boise State President Bob Kustra said Boise State's rapid growth over the last decade, from an upstart Division II program into a perennial Top 25 team, likely outstripped the school's capacity to keep tabs on compliance with NCAA rules. Kustra, who fired former athletic director Gene Bleymaier in August, said he'd hoped the self-imposed sanctions would have been enough to avoid probation.

"Having new leadership in the office of athletic director that understands the critical role compliance can play in the life of the program" will help prevent future violations, Kustra told The Associated Press in an interview. "You're always going to be disappointed in penalties. It is what it is. Now, our job is to move forward."

Football coach Chris Petersen said he, too, thought the school had done enough to show NCAA officials it had addressed the problems.

"I was surprised by the findings. I am also disappointed," said Petersen, adding that he doesn't think the NCAA announcement will distract the fourth-ranked Broncos from preparations for their game against Toledo on Friday.

The sanctions follow an NCAA inquiry that found a lack of institutional controls necessary for Boise State to fully comply with rules governing collegiate athletic programs.

The NCAA says the case included numerous major violations involving more than 75 prospects and student-athletes in five sports.

"The committee concluded that a competitive advantage was gained in most instances," said Conference USA Commissioner Britton Banowsky, another member of the NCAA infractions committee who reviewed the case.

Among the violations: From 2005 through 2009, football staff members arranged inadmissible summer housing and transportation for 63 prospective student-athletes.

In 2008-09, Boise State allowed a women's tennis player to practice, play and receive travel expenses after her fourth season of competition.

Under the penalties, former Boise State tennis coach Mark Tichenor faces sanctions that will make it tough for other NCAA schools to hire him for the next four years. In testimony to NCAA investigators, Tichenor said he knew it was against the rules to pay more than $2,000 for an international recruit's intensive English classes, but did so anyway because he felt "pressure to recruit, pressure to get players here," according to the committee's report.

Assistant track and field coach Tom Shanahan faces similar two-year sanctions.

But former assistant tennis coach Tiffany Coll was cleared of allegations that include giving false statements to investigators. Boise State confirmed that the NCAA found Coll engaged in no wrongdoing.

"She's completely vindicated," her attorney, David Leroy, told the AP. "They've (the NCAA) sent her a letter saying that."

The NCAA report found problems within Boise State's compliance department, including failure to monitor international athletes' housing.

Among the sanctions, Boise State will be prohibited for two years from recruiting prospective international student-athletes for cross country and track and field, as well as for women's tennis. The women's tennis team was hit with a one-year ban on post-season play.

Sankey said the school's compliance department had inadequate staffing to meet the school's needs.

Kustra said that moving the department from the athletic department into the school president's office, as well as stepping up education of coaches and officials on how to follow NCAA rules, was a part of "a series of changes to the way we do business" that would help BSU steer clear of similar problems in the future.

"The infractions and subsequent penalties have left us no margin for error going forward, and have changed the nature of oversight required," Kustra said.



Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/boise-124888-idaho-ncaa.html#ixzz1XshiE3Tp
 
No, you are wrong. Most fans don't travel long distances so they watch TV. I would never go to an away game because 1) I can't even afford to see home games 2)Most of the away teams seating that is left is way up, not worth going.

I saw Pitt at Penn State, bad seats, I saw the Steelers at Cleveland, bad seats. Most of the good seats are held by season ticket holders who wont give it away. I would rather watch a game on TV than sit in a seat either so far up my nose will bleed or I'm sitting behind a pole.
yeah, I learned that lesson the first time I went to a Ga Tech/Maryland game at College Park. Bought tickets through the Tech Alumni Association, and was at the 5 yard line near the top of the 3rd leverl (they have a triple deck). The next time I just bought tickets through the Terrapin organization and wound up on the 40 yard line in the 5th row.
Next time the Jackets come up here, I'll go through the terrapin organization again (i wish they were in the same division so I could go every other year instead of every five).
 
msmith198025 said:
What chest pounding conference rant? In relation to his logic of course.

This whole "my conference can beat-up your conference thing" is funny when it's goofying around, but when it is serious....it's sound dumb....especially now when schools are hoping from one bed to another.
 
This whole "my conference can beat-up your conference thing" is funny when it's goofying around, but when it is serious....it's sound dumb....especially now when schools are hoping from one bed to another.
I agree to a degree. Conferences don't play each other, and all of them have their dregs (Vandy).
Some conferences have more tougher teams and as such it's harder to play in. But other conferences can be pansies (my ACC of late for example).

Unfortunately all the expansions that's going to happen will just increase the pansieness and/or unbalance the confereces (example, the SEC East sucks, plain and simple. Only good teams in it now are South Carolina & Florida, and neither is top tier. The rest is awful).
I much prefered the SEC of old when it was 10 teams.
Then again smaller isn't always better either, the Big 8 was really the Big 2.
 
I know dvrexpander will like this. First I've heard of anything wrong there.

I heard about NCAA coming down on them a while back... excuses are just that. They made plenty of money to hire compliance people, the only sad thing here is students take a hit when it should be the president,coaches and what not taking a hit in the pocket!
 
I heard about NCAA coming down on them a while back... excuses are just that. They made plenty of money to hire compliance people, the only sad thing here is students take a hit when it should be the president,coaches and what not taking a hit in the pocket!
How are they taking a hit? Boise St. just has 3 less scholarships to give for the next few years (and only having 82 instead of 85 scholarships really isn't a big deal). 3 students will just go elsewhere.

In tennis and track, where the real cheating was, the coaches did get hit, with a show cause, so now they're out of a job and can't be hired at another NCAA school.
 
Texas to the ACC??!! WTF? LOL!

I had heard this over the radio down here in multiple stations and I thought it would be impossible. Then a did some digging...and...you know what? It COULD be....

Would Texas Go to the ACC?

By John Talty | September 13, 2011 5:10 PM EDT

As it becomes more and more likely that Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Texas A&M leave the Big 12, attention now turns to figuring out what Texas will do.

Texas has wielded all of the power in conference realignment in the past, but now it looks like its hand might be forced.

The Austin American-Statesmen reports that if Oklahoma leaves for the Pac-12, Texas will have three options: follow Oklahoma and join the Pac-12, go independent and potentially put its non-football teams in another conference, or perhaps join the ACC as a full-fledged member.

The most interesting option is the last one -- would Texas really join the Atlantic Coast conference?

It's possible, according to the report.

Texas is still working hard at keeping together the Big 12 together, but if it implodes as expected, the school will look for other options. Most seem to speculate that Texas will just go independent for football like Notre Dame, which is a possibility, but the newspaper says it's an option that athletic director DeLoss Dodds isn't keen on.

Texas would be able to keep its newly created Longhorn Network if it joined the ACC, plus the school is allegedly intrigued by the conference's idea to divide the conference into four different pods of four teams each.

That would likely mean more expansion for the ACC and that Texas could possibly bring along in-state Texas Tech with it.

Texas joining the ACC seems impractical at first, but makes more and more sense when you think about it. It's not the geographic match that the Big 12 currently is, but that's a moot point going forward.

Texas could pair up in football against Florida State, Miami, and Virginia Tech, plus the ACC could always add West Virginia to further expand the conference. Those games don't have the same initial appeal of the Red River Rivalry, but could develop into something over time.

Additionally the school's other main sports, basketball and baseball, could also fit in well with the ACC sports culture. Basketball coach Rick Barnes came to the school from Clemson and women's basketball coach Gail Goestenkors came from Duke, so the background is there.

Texas would get a soft landing spot for its sports and newly built television network, while the ACC would get a much needed credibility boost. The conference is by no means weak, but often is overshadowed by the other major football power conferences. Adding Texas would allow the ACC to stack up better against the SEC and Big 10.

This sort of major move is likely a long time away and probably a longshot at best, but it does make sense for Texas to consider jumping to the ACC when you think about it.

Texas probably has more options than any other school in the country, but whether you believe it or not -- could end up in the ACC.
 
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Then again smaller isn't always better either, the Big 8 was really the Big 2.
K-State, OK-State, Colorado and Missouri were small time? How about the PAC-8 (minus the Arizona schools). They were pretty good too. Small and regional is good for the fans, but TV money is driving the conference alignments now.
 
I had heard this over the radio down here in multiple stations and I thought it would be impossible. Then a did some digging...and...you know what? It COULD be....

Would Texas Go to the ACC?

By John Talty | September 13, 2011 5:10 PM EDT
If the ACC did go to 16 (or any other conf.). Four pods of four teams works great for football.
You play your 3 podmates every year, and half of the other 3 pods every other year for a total of 9 games.
Plus splitting the ACC into 4 pods is easy.

Pod A - the North Carolina schools
For the other 3 pods, Clemson & GT would be together, FSU & UM be together, VT, UVa , and UMd would be together. Doesn't really matter where BC goes. So filling the 3 pods completely would depend on the expansion and who's invited. If they raided the Big East, then Pod B would be Clemson, GT, FSU and Miami, with the new schools helping to fill the other pods. If Texas was invited with another Southwest school (Texas Tech), then they might be put with one of the southeast pairs, but more than likely with northeastern ones.

Four pods even works great with Basketball, as you'd play your podmates twice, and all the others once for a total of 18 conference games. Tobacco Road would love this since they'll be all together again.
 

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