NCAA Football 2008-09 Season

MDonnelly, if you're out there, I challenge you to an avatar bet.

Saturday, November 22nd. Texas Tech/Oklahoma.

The losing team's representative (you or me) has to put up the following avatar of the winning team until Monday, December 8th (The day after every bowl game is finalized).

If Texas Tech wins, you have to put up this avatar:

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If Oklahoma wins, I put up this avatar:

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What do you say, donnelly?

You up for a challenge?
 
MDonnelly, if you're out there, I challenge you to an avatar bet.

Saturday, November 22nd. Texas Tech/Oklahoma.

The losing team's representative (you or me) has to put up the following avatar of the winning team until Monday, December 8th (The day after every bowl game is finalized).

If Texas Tech wins, you have to put up this avatar:

ncf_g_harrell_300.jpg


If Oklahoma wins, I put up this avatar:

PH2005082301475.jpg


What do you say, donnelly?

You up for a challenge?

Uh, the Bowl games are not until Jan. for the most part, you must mean Jan 8th ...
 
5. Memo to Texas, Oklahoma, or Texas Tech- Missouri will NOT be a cakewalk on December 6th. Chase Daniel is capable of winning an offensive shootout with any of the big guns from the Big 12 South

Texas Tech has 1 conference game left this year (Nov. 29th against Baylor). If they get by Baylor, they would have an 11-0 record in the Big 12. The And-1 game would then be TT vs. Missouri (regardless of what happens in the Bama/TT game)?

I think TT vs. Missouri is exactly what this nation would absolutely love to see. Two of the highest octane offenses ever assembled. Now that would be must see TV!
 
Anybody think Georgia's unimpressive win over Auburn may drop them in the standings and allow tOSU to move up a spot?

Guess I was right. OSU swapped spots with Georgia!
 
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I found an interesting article on CBS's web site today, I tend to agree with much of it.

This is referring to the Buckeye game against Northwestern last week, Buckeye's won 45-10 and people complained about running up the score.
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I bet Andre Ware was bragging them up but shouldn't he instead have been ripping them for not taking a knee - game's over - right Andre???

A fake punt with nearly nine minutes left in the Northwestern game, followed by an ensuing 34-yard touchdown pass the very next play and a late touchdown gallop by backup running back Boom Herron with only seconds left in the game, have resonated in a surprising and somewhat confusing backlash for the Ohio State Buckeyes over the last few days.


Andre Ware ripped the Buckeyes the second Tressel called for the fake punt. He said Ohio State should have punted since, in his opinion, the game was not in doubt. His partner in the booth suggested the Buckeyes were trying to keep possession and kill the clock.

At the time, OSU held a 31-10 lead—comfortable, perhaps, but surely not insurmountable. The next play, Terrelle Pryor threw a touchdown pass. Ware's reaction? "Are they still trying to run out the clock now?"

This is the same Andre Ware who led his Houston team of the late 1980s and early 1990s to some of the most lopsided victories in college football history.

Here are a few examples (thanks to Baby Tate for providing these scores!).

Houston 69 UNLV 0
Houston 65 Temple 7
Houston 66 Baylor 10
Houston 55 TCU 10
Houston 47 Texas 9
Houston 64 Rice 0
Houston 95 SMU 21

Please remind me again, Andre: How exactly do you of all people classify 45-10 as "running it up"?

Ware is employed by the same network (ESPN) that posted the following headlines on their college football homepage a few weeks back.

"Buckeyes edge Purdue 16-3" and "Georgia rolls over Tennessee 26-14."

Unless I'm crazy, it sure seems like Ohio State was being slighted for ONLY beating (2-3) Purdue by 13 points with a freshman QB still learning the ropes I might add, but Georgia was being praised for a 12-point victory over a Tennessee team that was also (2-3) at that time and had been waxed by UCLA, who themselves, had been waxed by BYU.

In addition, ESPN Page 2 writer Tim Keown wrote a critical article about the Buckeyes' "garbage-time scoring," and that is the main reason I am now writing this article.


In the Buckeyes' victory over greatly improved Minnesota, Ohio State was leading 34-6 when they took their foot off the gas, so to speak, and replaced the starters. The final score of the game ended up 34-21.

The poll voters responded by moving the Bucks up from No. 12 to No. 11 while moving up teams like Florida, USC, and Georgia up at least three slots each after they ran up the score in their games that same week.

After losing to unranked Ole Miss in Week Four, Florida dropped to No. 13. Since then, they have won five straight games, all in blowout fashion, and are now ranked third. While LSU and Georgia were both ranked in the top 25, both also were obviously overrated because of the SEC love-fest ESPN has created.

The headlines when Florida, USC, or Texas Tech scores 50+ points usually include the words dominating performance or blowout. These teams have received high praise for their high-powered offense and have made no apologies, nor been asked to, for scoring and scoring often.

So why now are the Buckeyes being criticized for scoring two touchdowns in the last nine minutes in a 45-10 win?

Where's the praise for them? Northwestern (7-3) was ranked No. 24, and they do have a decent team, so why do other teams get put on a pedestal while Ohio State gets the red-headed step-child treatment?

Did anyone else notice that No. 13 Georgia struggled to a four-point win over unranked Kentucky while No. 12 Ohio State thumped No. 24 Northwestern by five scores, yet when the new polls were released, Georgia jumped ahead of the Buckeyes to No. 10 and Ohio State barely moved up to No. 11?

Someone...

Anyone...

Please explain that to me!

That really gets me worked up. It won't matter in terms of a possible BCS Bowl bid since only two teams max can be invited from any one conference, but it's just the whole principle of how Ohio State is disrespected by the media as a whole, even when they win convincingly.

But I now digress.

If you know anything about Jim Tressel, you know he doesn't run up the score. He's a class guy, win or lose.

Just last year in Ohio State's 14-3 win over hated archrival Michigan, Tressel had the offense take a knee inside the Michigan five-yard line with just a few seconds remaining.

Woody Hayes rolled over in his grave, but that's the difference between Hayes and Tressel, and quite honestly the one reason some have been critical of Tressel. He lacks the killer instinct and utter disdain for the opposition (especially The School Up North, or TSUN as Woody called them) that Hayes had.

Tressel even winced as if he were passing a large kidney stone when Herron broke no less than five tackles on his way to the end zone as the clock ran down.

You can't blame a backup RB for wanting to score and giving it his all either. Every single person reading this would have done the exact same thing if they could have.

Isn't a game 60 minutes long and not 50 or 58?

Aren't fans that sometimes pay ridiculous ticket prices deserving of seeing football for an entire 60 minutes?

Sure, Tressel could have just had 3rd-string QB Joe Bauserman take a knee, but Northwestern should have tackled the guy, period. The touchdown was a fluke, and I know Tressel felt bad about it, but since when did this become the official sport of the "Mercy Rule" anyway?

The bottom line here is that, unfortunately, style points weigh freshly on the voters' minds each week, and whether or not Ohio State intentionally "ran up the score" on the Wildcats, it's the nature of the beast. Like the old cliché says:

"If you don't like it, stop them!"

And to ESPN:

If it's OK for USC and Florida, etc., it's OK for everyone!

When in Rome...
 
Texas Tech has 1 conference game left this year (Nov. 29th against Baylor). If they get by Baylor, they would have an 11-0 record in the Big 12. The And-1 game would then be TT vs. Missouri (regardless of what happens in the Bama/TT game)?

I think TT vs. Missouri is exactly what this nation would absolutely love to see. Two of the highest octane offenses ever assembled. Now that would be must see TV!

Great, TWO teams that together can't SPELL Defense, awesome
 
...Sure, Tressel could have just had 3rd-string QB Joe Bauserman take a knee, but Northwestern should have tackled the guy, period. The touchdown was a fluke, and I know Tressel felt bad about it, but since when did this become the official sport of the "Mercy Rule" anyway?

The bottom line here is that, unfortunately, style points weigh freshly on the voters' minds each week, and whether or not Ohio State intentionally "ran up the score" on the Wildcats, it's the nature of the beast. Like the old cliché says:

"If you don't like it, stop them!"

And to ESPN:

If it's OK for USC and Florida, etc., it's OK for everyone!

When in Rome...

I agree totally with this guy. Carroll and Meyer do this all the time and ESPN goes on and on about great coaching. Yesterday Tebow was still in there when they were up by 42 points (or close) and Meyer had him running trick plays. Meyer is notorious for doing this, even when he was at Utah.

If anybody doesn't try to run up the score it's Tressel.
 
All the one loss teams are trying to run up the score to get votes right now. It's pathetic. Oklahoma, Florida, USC, all of 'em do it. It's a transparent, unsportsmanlike thing to do, but hey, when the other team quits giving their best effort, and these high powered offenses want to keep scoring, the other team has to show some heart and stop them. Florida has made it all the way to number 3 by running up the score. All of the major media types criticize Alabama's schedule....but praise Florida as the best team in football right now. Why? Because they run the score up in garbage time when the game is decided, and boy, you just know that beating a team by a few more meaningless points makes that win weigh more than someone who beat a team by just a few. How can you complain about one teams schedule, and not apply that same argument to a team that's played the same schedule..?? Sportswriters are idiots, and should be tested for mental capacity before being allowed to vote in the polls. And the coaches poll is worse. Ranking Oklahoma above Texas just because Oklahoma runs the score up. Give me a break. How easily they forget Texas beat mighty Oklahoma by 10 points.
 
All the one loss teams are trying to run up the score to get votes right now. It's pathetic. Oklahoma, Florida, USC, all of 'em do it. It's a transparent, unsportsmanlike thing to do, but hey, when the other team quits giving their best effort, and these high powered offenses want to keep scoring, the other team has to show some heart and stop them. Florida has made it all the way to number 3 by running up the score. All of the major media types criticize Alabama's schedule....but praise Florida as the best team in football right now. Why? Because they run the score up in garbage time when the game is decided, and boy, you just know that beating a team by a few more meaningless points makes that win weigh more than someone who beat a team by just a few. How can you complain about one teams schedule, and not apply that same argument to a team that's played the same schedule..?? Sportswriters are idiots, and should be tested for mental capacity before being allowed to vote in the polls. And the coaches poll is worse. Ranking Oklahoma above Texas just because Oklahoma runs the score up. Give me a break. How easily they forget Texas beat mighty Oklahoma by 10 points.

Good thought out post kev. :up You know, if I can get past my jealousy of Saban being at Bama now, I might pull for the Tide when they play Florida, just for your sake. ;)
 
I dont understand the problem with scoring? This isnt peewee football. No ones feelings will be hurt if you score 50+ points.
Actually, some coaches do hold grudges about that sort of thing. I think it's bush league to run up scores, but my feeling is if your team can't stop 'em, maybe they shouldn't be on the field with 'em. :)
 
So sportsmanship and courtesy, along with other qualities that would generally define someone as a gentleman, isn't a big deal? It shows a certain lack of class in todays athletics, which is just a by-product of todays society, in which almost no one exhibits class, good manners, or any other qualities that would lead someone to say that someone else is a "gentleman".
 
Well Kev lets look at the FLA S.C game. FLA scored 20+ points just on turn overs, (running in interceptions etc) and special teams.. What do you want them to do? When they get the ball on interception just run out of bounds?
 
All the one loss teams are trying to run up the score to get votes right now. It's pathetic. Oklahoma, Florida, USC, all of 'em do it. It's a transparent, unsportsmanlike thing to do, but hey, when the other team quits giving their best effort, and these high powered offenses want to keep scoring, the other team has to show some heart and stop them. Florida has made it all the way to number 3 by running up the score. All of the major media types criticize Alabama's schedule....but praise Florida as the best team in football right now. Why? Because they run the score up in garbage time when the game is decided, and boy, you just know that beating a team by a few more meaningless points makes that win weigh more than someone who beat a team by just a few. How can you complain about one teams schedule, and not apply that same argument to a team that's played the same schedule..?? Sportswriters are idiots, and should be tested for mental capacity before being allowed to vote in the polls. And the coaches poll is worse. Ranking Oklahoma above Texas just because Oklahoma runs the score up. Give me a break. How easily they forget Texas beat mighty Oklahoma by 10 points.

The problem is the guys doing the voting. Polls are useless, because nobody can see everybody play, so they rely on the box scores. 56-3 looks more impressive than 24-21. I've watched most of the top ten teams play at least one game, and I couldn't tell you if Texas Tech could beat Alabama, if Alabama could beat Florida, if Penn St. could beat any of them and so on , and so forth. We all know what the answer is, the question is who will still be alive here to see the day. We need a playoff now!
 
Well Kev lets look at the FLA S.C game. FLA scored 20+ points just on turn overs, (running in interceptions etc) and special teams.. What do you want them to do? When they get the ball on interception just run out of bounds?

Which brings up another question about running up the score - how do you stop your 3rd string from scoring? These kids wait their whole careers for a few snaps, and what do you tell them? Take a knee? Like somebody else here said - sometimes the other team just quits.
 

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