NCAA College Basketball 2011-12
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My ISU Redbirds had one heck of a last pre-conference game against U Arkansas-Little Rock. Started with a 16 point lead, only to have the worst officiating, and I believe SIX technicals called in the first half, culiminating in our coach, Tim Jankovich getting ejected after coming close to clobbering the idiot ref. Coach got a standing ovation, which was followed by five minutes of booing the refs, and one fan getting ejected at the half, when he engaged the ref leaving the court. (No technical, that would have resulted in a brawl). The horrible officiating led to re-engergizing UALR, who came back to tie and then take the lead by 2, only to have ISU hold it together, and win by 7.
My throat is shot from all too much shouting. But this is what makes college basketball great. One week until the Valley begins, with Northern Iowa.
Good times.
I ran into our university president at half-time, and he was practically cursing out the ref.
My throat is shot from all too much shouting. But this is what makes college basketball great. One week until the Valley begins, with Northern Iowa.
Good times.
I ran into our university president at half-time, and he was practically cursing out the ref.
A friend summarized the excitement:
What? Just because the refs called a flagrant foul on an ISU player whose defender fell into him, called a double foul on an ISU and a UALR player, called two technicals on ISU's coach back-to-back and ejected him immediately after they failed to call a foul on a UALR player who ran through an ISU player to knock the ball out of bounds (allegedly off the ISU player), ALL IN ONE 5 MINUTE SPAN OF THE FIRST HALF, people are complaining that the game was reffed badly. Really: what's the big deal?
What? Just because the refs called a flagrant foul on an ISU player whose defender fell into him, called a double foul on an ISU and a UALR player, called two technicals on ISU's coach back-to-back and ejected him immediately after they failed to call a foul on a UALR player who ran through an ISU player to knock the ball out of bounds (allegedly off the ISU player), ALL IN ONE 5 MINUTE SPAN OF THE FIRST HALF, people are complaining that the game was reffed badly. Really: what's the big deal?
I just read that the out of control ref ejected three fans at half-time. They were yelling at him as he left the court, and HE ENGAGED them, just to boot them. Wow, that guy seriously was trying to make the game about him. I saw the scuffle, but could not tell what had happened. Fun read in the local newspaper this morning.
And I was wrong, it wasn't six technicals, it was one flagrant, 4 technicals, an ejected coach, three fans, and a partridge in a pear tree.
And I was wrong, it wasn't six technicals, it was one flagrant, 4 technicals, an ejected coach, three fans, and a partridge in a pear tree.
Sigh - since you're mentioning quoting, perhaps actually reading my post would be a good idea?
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hancox said:
Again... I have never denied they have not played predominately "home games". But I will ASSURE YOU that VaTech, Florida, Stanford and NC State has a much better chance of making the NCAA tournament than Holly Cross, Fairfield, Wagner, Maine, Coppin State, Columbia OR Harvard.
The LAST fans that should be bitching about another team's "easy" schedule is you....LOL!
And more than likely have a better chance than the team you LOST TO in UCF.
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salsadancer7 said:Again... I have never denied they have not played predominately "home games". But I will ASSURE YOU that VaTech, Florida, Stanford and NC State has a much better chance of making the NCAA tournament than Holly Cross, Fairfield, Wagner, Maine, Coppin State, Columbia OR Harvard.
The LAST fans that should be bitching about another team's "easy" schedule is you....LOL!
And more than likely have a better chance than the team you LOST TO in UCF.
Damn. lol
Erm, OK. 2 of the teams Salsa discredited will likely be in the NCAA's (Fairfield and Harvard), but whatever.
We get one bad OOC year this year. The term "OOC Strength of Schedule" was essentially invented for Georgetown and Syracuse.
Last year's gives us a pass:
Neutral site (a real one in Hawaii, unlike the Cuse at MSG, which is hardly neutral):
Wichita St
Mich St
Kentucky
Tennessee
@Texas
We get one bad OOC year this year. The term "OOC Strength of Schedule" was essentially invented for Georgetown and Syracuse.
Last year's gives us a pass:
Neutral site (a real one in Hawaii, unlike the Cuse at MSG, which is hardly neutral):
Wichita St
Mich St
Kentucky
Tennessee
@Texas
Haven't seen Fairfield yet, but it's very true that Harvard has a good team this year...perhaps very good. Nobody was making fun of Cornell last year...
Sandra
On Fairfield and Harvard making the NCAAs, you are assuming at this point. Team likes YOUR UConn team and my 'Cuse team...yes, more than likely they will. Those lowering tier teams, it's a crap shoot. Are YOU willing to bet that 1 months pay that Fairfield and Harvard are gonna make the NCAAs? I sure as hell am not.
As far as "OOC strength of schedule"...I would not push TOO hard their young man, your UConn team is not too far behind. What helps YOUR UConn as well as my 'Cuse has ALWAYS been the strength of the ENTIRE Big East schedule...which when it comes to basketball, it has always held a backseat to no one.
...but that's not what you said! Why do you continue to try to change the subject around the nonsense you're responding with?
Of the 4 you mentioned, only Florida is a reasonably good bet for the NCAA's. VPI is likely off the bubble (again), if they even get back on it, after an iffy start. Stanford will be dragged down by a HORRIBLE PAC12, and probably will need to win their tourney. NC St is right around where VPI is.
Didn't change the subject at all. THAT was my opinion. What YOU are doing above is ASSUMING. You have NO CLUE what will happen because the season has yet to be played. ALL those teams have 2 chances to get in...at large or their tournament. Fairfield and Harvard, they have only on chance, their own conference tournament...that's it.
Tell me, how often does a team from the Ivy League get an at large bid? Or a MAAC team? So based on that alone...that confirms my opinion.
I fail to see why you're not ASSUMING too? Not sure why you continue on insisting on word-twisting (you're assuming that any of the teams you've listed are good, when they're really not all that good at all).
Their conference is not the deciding factor on how good this Harvard team is. At least they had the cojones to travel to UConn for an away game.
Sandra
Many deserving teams don't get At-large bids, so the power conferences can get four or five teams in. But don't get me started. I'm just a mid-major guy.
I'm a mid-major girl too!
Being an Ivy League team didn't keep Cornell out of the sweet sixteen!
Sandra
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