NCAA College Basketball 2011-12

With only 6 games televised total and 2 on ESPN3 the pickins are slim ;)

True. I'll be watching the Ranger game, but I'll definitely be checking in on Harvard-UConn, which could be a pretty good game. Great test to see how good Harvard actually is. Another game I wish was in Cambridge instead of Storrs, but it is what it is.


Sandra
 
Some good games to watch this weekend;

Saturday
12:00PM Washington-Duke, CBS (New York, NY)
2:00PM Milwaukee-Northern Iowa, ESPN Full Court
2:00PM UNLV-Wisconsin, Big Ten Network
3:15PM Ohio State-Kansas, ESPN
5:15PM Kentucky-Indiana, ESPN
9:00PM Green Bay-Marquette, Sportsnet New York ESPN Full Court
9:00PM Michigan State-Gonzaga, ESPN 2

Not many games...probably because of exams. But not for the Dukies...were they in Manhattan all week? Well SOME schools have priorities!

Yay for Michigan State, going into hostile mid-major territory at Gonzaga. Good stuff.


Sandra
 
Now normally, rankings this early, I really do not pay attention to rankings..

...but holy sh#@.... 'Cuse is #1?! Seriously?!

...cool... :)

Well, you know I'm a Syracuse and a Boeheim fan, but their schedule this year is an absolute joke. Nice to be 10-0, but the first TEN games at home, Jim? Seriously? The only decent team you played (Florida), you were FORCED to play because of the SEC-Big East challenge.

Boeheim and John Thompson forced the cancellation of the old ACC-Big East challenge, because they didnt' want to play quality teams in December. Luckily John Thompson III doesn't go along with that (he brought his team to the absolutely STACKED Maui Invitational), so Boeheim is stuck actually playing ONE decent team before the Big East season starts.

Add in the fact that teams like Duke, Kansas, Ohio State, Kentucky, and North Carolina have all been playing EACH OTHER...sometimes on the ROAD!!! :eek:

...North Carolina even ventured to Vegas to play a very good mid-major (UNLV) on the road...

...and you have the perfect recipe for Syracuse being number one.

The first road game (Dec 17...ridiculous) is Saturday, at a NC State team that just beat NC Central by four at home. Then they play Bucknell and Tulane at home. Once the Big East schedule starts, there are no more out of conference games.

ONE away game out of 13 out of conference games. This is embarassing...expect to hear major whining about Syracuse's seed when the tournament committee stacks Syracuse's schedule up against other teams' schedules and seeds them lower than teams with better records.


Sandra
 
Well, you know I'm a Syracuse and a Boeheim fan, but their schedule this year is an absolute joke. Nice to be 10-0, but the first TEN games at home, Jim? Seriously? The only decent team you played (Florida), you were FORCED to play because of the SEC-Big East challenge.

Boeheim and John Thompson forced the cancellation of the old ACC-Big East challenge, because they didnt' want to play quality teams in December. Luckily John Thompson III doesn't go along with that (he brought his team to the absolutely STACKED Maui Invitational), so Boeheim is stuck actually playing ONE decent team before the Big East season starts.

Add in the fact that teams like Duke, Kansas, Ohio State, Kentucky, and North Carolina have all been playing EACH OTHER...sometimes on the ROAD!!! :eek:

...North Carolina even ventured to Vegas to play a very good mid-major (UNLV) on the road...

...and you have the perfect recipe for Syracuse being number one.

The first road game (Dec 17...ridiculous) is Saturday, at a NC State team that just beat NC Central by four at home. Then they play Bucknell and Tulane at home. Once the Big East schedule starts, there are no more out of conference games.

ONE away game out of 13 out of conference games. This is embarassing...expect to hear major whining about Syracuse's seed when the tournament committee stacks Syracuse's schedule up against other teams' schedules and seeds them lower than teams with better records.


Sandra

But he has done this every year. AND, come tournament time...they will primarily base it on the schedule once their Big East games start. Will the committee look at the 1st 10 games? BARELY, they will skim through it. It is all about 'what have you done for me lately' and look at how they handled the Big East schedule and go from there. As opposed to the college football and their 12-13 game sample size...they will have a 35-40 game sample size and a better barometer.

I am not worried about them at all and expect them to go deep.
 
But he has done this every year. AND, come tournament time...they will primarily base it on the schedule once their Big East games start. Will the committee look at the 1st 10 games? BARELY, they will skim through it. It is all about 'what have you done for me lately' and look at how they handled the Big East schedule and go from there. As opposed to the college football and their 12-13 game sample size...they will have a 35-40 game sample size and a better barometer.

I am not worried about them at all and expect them to go deep.

Not talking about their chances in the tournament necessarily...more of an explanation why their number one ranking right now is a product of their schedule.

There are arguably a whole bunch of teams who, had they played ten games at home against those teams, chances are good they would be undefeated too.


Sandra
 
SandraC said:
Not talking about their chances in the tournament necessarily...more of an explanation why their number one ranking right now is a product of their schedule.

There are arguably a whole bunch of teams who, had they played ten games at home against those teams, chances are good they would be undefeated too.

Sandra

Everything is always a matter of timing. They were already highly ranked...others kept losing and they didn't.
 
Everything is always a matter of timing. They were already highly ranked...others kept losing and they didn't.

LOL Yes, the timing of Syracuse playing a very weak schedule, with all ten of the games at home to boot.

And bad timing that all the good teams didn't do that and actually played each other!!! That's the reason other teams lost!

Syracuse might turn out to be a good team (I hope they do), but their number one ranking right now is the product of nothing more than one of the ridiculously easy ten game schedules to open the season of all time.


Sandra
 
SandraC said:
LOL Yes, the timing of Syracuse playing a very weak schedule, with all ten of the games at home to boot.

And bad timing that all the good teams didn't do that and actually played each other!!! That's the reason other teams lost!

Syracuse might turn out to be a good team (I hope they do), but their number one ranking right now is the product of nothing more than one of the ridiculously easy ten game schedules to open the season of all time.

Sandra

Sandra, every single team in college basketball does this at one point or another and more often than not. The schedules are sometimes planned years in advance. This will not be the last time Syracuse does this and there will be other school that do this at as well.
 
Stop arguing about strength of schedule. It doesn't matter in the end. They have a tournament to finish the season and if they aren't prepared to beat the good teams then they won't make it.
 
Stop arguing about strength of schedule. It doesn't matter in the end. They have a tournament to finish the season and if they aren't prepared to beat the good teams then they won't make it.

I totally agree Ramy. I was only talking about their current number one ranking, not predicting how they'll fare in the tournament. As I stated, I'm a Syracuse fan, so I hope the weak schedule does not hurt them in the seedings or in the tournament itself. Time will tell.

That is all.


Sandra
 
Moving on, I think I'm one of the few who watch November/December college basketball, and from what I've seen Ohio State (and I'm not a homer...not a huge Buckeye basketball fan), Kentucky and North Carolina are clearly the class of the country.

It's early, but that's how I see it!


Sandra
 

goodbye and good riddance.

Vandy with the upset!

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