NCAA 2013 Football Season

[Ronnie-]

Sports Illustrated’s yearlong investigation into the Oklahoma State football program was finally released Tuesday, as the magazine, through a story on its website, detailed various payments to players by coaches and boosters, a violation of NCAA rules.
“The Money,” the first installment of Sports Illustrated’s story titled “The Dirty Game,” claimed some Oklahoma State players were paid based on an incentive system set up by assistant coach Joe DeForest, who is now at West Virginia, and supported by several other assistants, including Larry Porter, who is at Texas.
The payments, which were given from 2001-2011, were doled out based on play on the field. Better play meant more pay. The money was delivered by low-level staff members or left in lockers. Sometimes players were given money from boosters while walking to the stadium.
The story also quotes several players as saying they were paid for job they didn’t do. They also were paid more for jobs than the jobs were worth.
Running back Seymore Shaw (2002 to '04) told SI that now deceased defensive back Darrent Williams was paid by DeForest for work he didn’t do.
"We'd go over to the house, and [Williams] would fake like he's starting up a lawn mower ... so people could see him," Shaw told the magazine. "[Then he'd] cut it off. [He'd] start up a Weed Eater. Cut it off. [For that he'd get] $400, $500, $600."
DeForest told the magazine he paid players far-market value for their work, however, the Oklahoma Statecompliance office said it never approved players to work for DeForest.
Most of the allegations took place from 2001-07 and the story claimed Les Miles allowed boosters to have contact with his players and started the subculture of pay for performance.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...-alleges-oklahoma-state-151302718--ncaaf.html

 

[salsadancer7]

The 2 fumbles were absolutely good plays by the Miami defense, the interceptions were brutal throws by Driskel right to the defender(But give them credit for being in position to make the play). The interior Miami defense was very good, why Florida kept running there when the outside was there I have no idea. Al Golden and his staff definitely out-coached Muschamp and his band of idiots.

I am still trying to figure out why Florida went for 2 after their TD, it was a dumb decision(stupid coach) and gave Miami the momentum right back.

Dont you think pressure on a QB forces to throw too late or force the QB to throw into coverage? That is said to happen all the time.

Look, Miami did some TERRIBLE play calling by running on 1st and 2nd down right up the middle for the first three series of the 2nd half. Credit to the defense HAS TO BE given because Florida STILL HAD TO stop it. Most if not ALL of Miami's positive plays where out to the flats on the left or right.

 

[The Insider]

So you are saying Miami' defense had nothing to do with the cause of those turnovers?


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Sure it had some to do with it. Specially those fumbles. But the interceptions were the worst possible throws. It was not even like they were just great coverage, the throws were right to the dam defenders un-catchable by the receiver.

Not to mention the countless penalties that everytime we got into the redzone we kept moving our self backwards. We had NEGATIVE yards once we hit the red zone. Thats right, when we got in the redzone we had negative yards gained. What a crappy showing, and poor coaching. Miami shut down the inside run. Great D-Line and those linebackers pretty much shut down the inside so all that credit goes to Miami. But Muschamp decided screw it so what if its not working keeping doing it over and over and over and over and over.. Even though Driskel had his highest passing game of his career, lets keep running it up the center since that is working so well.......

 

[Derwin0]

Report: Nick Saban to Visit Texas

http://deadspin.com/sports-illustrated-falls-for-satire-about-nick-saban-vi-1278110335

 

[dvrexpander]

Report: Nick Saban to Visit Texas

http://deadspin.com/sports-illustrated-falls-for-satire-about-nick-saban-vi-1278110335

 

[Ronnie-]

What's funny is they aren't the only ones that didn't get it. I had many people ask me if I heard that saban was headed to Texas this week.

Yeah, they are playing a&m, so duh.....lol

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[Ronnie-]

Saban: You want answers?

Reporter: I think were entitled


Saban: You want answers?


Reporter: We want the truth!


Saban: You can't handle the truth!!! Son, we live in a world that has defensive lines.
And those lines have to be guarded by men with helmets...BIG helmets.. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Charles Robinson?? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Cam Newton and you curse the Manziel's. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that D.J. Fluker taking money, while tragic, probably saved lives by giving to the poor.
And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives by giving to the poor...You
don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties,
you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall.

We use words like Roll... Damn... Tide...we use these words as the backbone to a
life spent winning BCS National Titles. You use 'em as a punchline. I have neither the time in my process
nor the inclination to explain my process to a man who rises and sleeps under the Bama media blanket I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provideit! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest
you pick up a helmet and shoulder pads and get in line. Either way, I don't give a damn what you
think you're entitled to!


Reporter: Did you order the agent money funnel?

Saban: I did the job you sent me to do.

Reporter: Did you order the agent money funnel?

Saban: You're g*****n right I did!!

 

[tigerfan33]

This could get ugly for bama.

This is different than the OSU where he said she said.
This one has a trail of financial statements and the runner is a former player.

 

[mccoyrj]

We use words like Roll... Damn... Tide...we use these words as the backbone to a
life spent winning BCS National Titles.

NCAA maybe taking some of those crystal trophies away?

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9663355/dj-fluker-five-sec-players-received-extra-benefits-college-according-report

 

[Hart5150]

I'm not saying that these kids didn't do anything wrong, it's time we make these agents liable for their actions. To me they're preying on kids and than using the threat of extorsion to have them sign with them.

If I'm poor and someone offers me money, I'm taking it.

 

[Ronnie-]

Honestly, even if true, I dont see much happening, beyond the loss of MAYBE some scholarships. Even if that were the case, I wouldnt necessarily agree with it, UNLESS it came out that the university was aware of it and did nothing. Which at this point does not seem to be the case at all.

In other cases in the recent past, you had direct knowledge by coaches or other personnel that not only knew and did nothing, but tried to cover it up after the fact.

 

[Ronnie-]

I'm not saying that these kids didn't do anything wrong, it's time we make these agents liable for their actions. To me they're preying on kids and than using the threat of extorsion to have them sign with them.

If I'm poor and someone offers me money, I'm taking it.

I agree, the agents need to be held accountable in some way. Saban has ranted on this in the recent past, which to me indicates that the Coach at the very least had no idea that this happened, if it did in fact happen.

 

[mccoyrj]

I agree, the agents need to be held accountable in some way. Saban has ranted on this in the recent past, which to me indicates that the Coach at the very least had no idea that this happened, if it did in fact happen.

Squeaky clean, no doubt.

 

[Ronnie-]

Squeaky clean, no doubt.

?Lol, of course

 

[mccoyrj]

Everyone will focus on Alabama, but what about Tennessee and Mississippi St.? These two teams are trying so hard to rebuild their programs, if this comes to fruition, it's back to the trash heap for those two organizations. I hope LSU has their noses clean this time. Tigers are just now starting to gel a little on offense, something that's been a long time coming, although it would be fun to hear Les Miles stammer and stutter his way through this one together with those old OSU allegations he's ducking right now.
?

 

[Derwin0]

I'm not saying that these kids didn't do anything wrong, it's time we make these agents liable for their actions. To me they're preying on kids and than using the threat of extorsion to have them sign with them.

I agree. The NFL needs to crack down on them.

 

[Derwin0]

NCAA maybe taking some of those crystal trophies away?

Not unless they can prove the school knew about it, or should have reasonable knew about it.

As it is, one of those crystal trophies was shattered into little pieces, they gonna take the shards back?

 

[mccoyrj]

...As it is, one of those crystal trophies was shattered into little pieces, they gonna take the shards back?

They replaced the broken one and some fanatic bought the old one at a UA celebrity golf tournament auction for $105K. The original was only valued at $30K. Gumps.

http://college-football.si.com/2013/05/20/alabama-bcs-trophy-auction/

 

[Ronnie-]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/co...klahoma-state-part-3-drugs/?sct=hp_t11_a2#all

The third part of Sports Illustrated's feature series on Oklahoma State came out Thursday and it details drug use that it says was widespread in the program.
One key point of that was the "Weed Circle," which the magazine says was for players who tested positive for marijuana. However, that circle wasn't open to all, it was an exclusive group, per the story, and players allegedly were able to continue to smoke marijuana while in the group.
"We all smoked and pissed hot, but the coaches were like, As long as you're performing, we'll send you to [the Weed Circle]," Thomas Wright told SI.
The piece outlines Oklahoma State's drug policy, which is termed a "four-strike" policy; after the fourth test, a player is kicked off the team. The "Weed Circle" was set up as a counseling program. Why? Because as part of Oklahoma State's policy, a player didn't incur a strike on his record if he was in counseling and future tests revealed a lower number of drugs in his system.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...tory-oklahoma-state-had-143631288--ncaaf.html

 

[osu1991]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/co...klahoma-state-part-3-drugs/?sct=hp_t11_a2#all


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...tory-oklahoma-state-had-143631288--ncaaf.html

This idiotic piece has more holes in it than swiss cheese. SI will be lucky if they are still in business when this is all finished. Thayer Evans is scum, that has been after OSU for years.

Former OSU Player Tatum Bell Says SI's OSU Series Is 'Slander

http://www.newson6.com/story/23420646/former-osu-player-tatum-bell-says-si-series-is-slander

ESPN Report: Carter's Testimony To SI Contradicts University Documents

http://www.newson6.com/story/23418962/espn-report-carters-testimony-to-si-contains

Former OSU Linebacker Denies Quotes To Be Used In SI Drugs Story

http://www.newson6.com/story/234100...er-denies-quotes-to-be-used-in-si-drugs-story