NBA Lockout thread

According to Adrian Woj from Yahoo who is on 790 the ticket at this moment...there has been enough progess to where there is "optimism". As stated here, he stated that he has spoken with enough players who stated there were alot of players who saved their pennies due to warnings given to them by their union reps 2 years ago.

Good interview to listen to should be available on the Dan Lebatard show on 790 the ticket.
 
According to Adrian Woj from Yahoo who is on 790 the ticket at this moment...there has been enough progess to where there is "optimism". As stated here, he stated that he has spoken with enough players who stated there were alot of players who saved their pennies due to warnings given to them by their union reps 2 years ago.

Good interview to listen to should be available on the Dan Lebatard show on 790 the ticket.

As stated yesterday, confirmation that some headway was made and there is a hint of possibly coming to a deal by Monday where they might ...MIGHT ...even get in 82 games.

NBA marathon session ends after 15 hours - NBA - Yahoo! Sports
 
See what happens when people stop all the stupid rhetoric and announcements that speak to only their side of the issues? Something to learn from. ;)

Sounds like they are in a good place and I'm very hopeful!!!


Sandra
 
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...even more progress...

...everything he stated in Dan LeBatard's show on 790 The Ticket is here with more details.

NBA, players make progress toward deal

By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
11 hours, 41 minutes ago


NEW YORK – The NBA and Players Association are pushing hard to reach the framework of an agreement to end the league-imposed lockout after moving closer to consensus on several important issues, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Negotiators met for more than 15 hours, finishing past 3 a.m. ET Thursday, and sources said talks centering on the system issues resulted in significant progress on one of the labor fight’s most vexing obstacles: the luxury tax teams would have to pay for going over the salary. Negotiations will resume at 2 p.m. ET Thursday.

“They need [Thursday] to punch it over the end line,” one source briefed on the talks told Y! Sports.

There was a significant effort among the NBA’s owners to push hard to get a deal done with the players over the weekend, sources told Yahoo! Sports. NBA commissioner David Stern wasn’t happy with the implosion of talks that occurred with him home ill last Thursday, and sources said he was more determined than ever to rally his owners to find some compromises to make a deal with the union.

“I leave these guys alone for a little bit of time,” Stern said, “and all hell breaks loose.”

From front-office executives to player agents, optimism is rapidly rising that there’s significant momentum toward reaching an agreement and saving most, if not all, of the 82-game regular season. Union executive director Billy Hunter said he “assumes” the full schedule could be saved if a deal is reached by “Sunday or Monday.” Stern said the league will work with the union to schedule as many games as possible.

The two sides didn’t discuss the split of revenue – a contentious issue in previous negotiating sessions – instead taking Hunter’s suggestion they “park” the discussion while negotiating system issues. Stern indicated the talks likely won’t return to the split until the league and union have finished with the system. League and union officials will continue to meet in small groups Thursday. Stern, deputy commissioner Adam Silver and San Antonio Spurs owner Peter Holt will brief the owners’ labor-relations committee before talks resume.

The players would be willing to move closer to a 50-50 split on basketball-related income (BRI) if they can maintain comparable exceptions to the ones they had in the previous labor agreement – and a luxury tax that doesn’t too punitively discourage big-spending teams from exceeding the salary cap, sources said.NBA, players make progress toward deal - NBA - Yahoo! Sports
 
Wait...let me make sure I understand this. At some point in time, be it tonight or a year from now, they are going to agree to the split of BRI...and what actually constitues BRI. For arguments sake, let's just say the split they agree to is 50/50, and they are all in agreement to what they are actually splitting.

If the owners are allowed a mid-level exception, payment to the players will go up, and revenue for the owners will not...so it's not REALLY 50/50 anymore, right?


Sandra
 
SandraC said:
Wait...let me make sure I understand this. At some point in time, be it tonight or a year from now, they are going to agree to the split of BRI...and what actually constitues BRI. For arguments sake, let's just say the split they agree to is 50/50, and they are all in agreement to what they are actually splitting.

If the owners are allowed a mid-level exception, payment to the players will go up, and revenue for the owners will not...so it's not REALLY 50/50 anymore, right?

Sandra

Are you asking me or thinking out loud?
 
SandraC said:
I don't know...asking anyone if my thinking makes sense, I suppose...you can qualify as anyone!

Sandra

IMHO, it has never really been 50-50. The owners have never owned up to during the negociations and they never will.

Just think about this, WHY on earth would the owners agree on the last CBA to a 57-43 split unless the numbers never really equals a 57-43.
There isnt a business owner IN THE WORLD that would agree to split the total revenues of a company that generates more than 4 Billion dollars worth of business.
 
According to ESPN's Broussard, the players will more than likely not budge under 52% in BRI. More than likely, they know that at 52%, it is the real percentage of splitting revenue evenly.
 
....COULD this be the day a deal is struck?

“I think we’re within reach – and within striking distance of getting a deal,” Players Association executive director Billy Hunter said. “It’s just how receptive the NBA is, and whether they want to do a deal.”

NBA commissioner David Stern declared it will be a “failure” for the league’s owners and players if a new labor agreement isn’t finished within the next few days.

NBA, players on cusp of agreement - NBA - Yahoo! Sports
 
IMHO, it has never really been 50-50. The owners have never owned up to during the negociations and they never will.

Just think about this, WHY on earth would the owners agree on the last CBA to a 57-43 split unless the numbers never really equals a 57-43.
There isnt a business owner IN THE WORLD that would agree to split the total revenues of a company that generates more than 4 Billion dollars worth of business.

Well, you are entitled to your opinion, of course...you can spin it this way if you like...others may disagree...

Whatever floats it for ya...:up


Sandra
 
There is no spin when no one denies it. ;-)

Sorry, not going back and forth on this with ya. In my opinion it's spin...in your opinion it's not.

For the sake of everyone here I am going to take a wise sage's advice and not get into a p****** match with you...and take the high road.

As you like to say, let's agree to disagree and leave it at that!!!


Sandra
 

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