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The Reid Sox payroll is artificially low due to the arbitraton status of key contributors. Lester, Buchholtz, Ellsbury and Pedroia are getting about $20 milllion to $30 million less than they are worth based on their recent performance levels, but that savings rapidly dissipates from year to year. They will have to pay $200 million within two or three years to keep their team intact. The Red Sox payroll is also undervalued by the fact that the $50 million posting fee for Dice-K really should be allocated to the team payroll of each of his six contracted years.

Detroit had a much higher payroll a couple of years ago but ultimately had to confront the fact that 1) no matter how much any team spends, it cannot guarantee a championship, and 2) in their market, they can't pay what Boston, New York, Chicago and Los Angeles can and still turn a profit when they don't win the world series.

Ditto for Philadelphia. What they are doing right now will just be a blip on their long term payroll level curve. Oncve two pitchers develop lame arms, their revenue will plummet and they will have to cut payroll by maybe $50 million.
 
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The Red Sox ended the month 20-6. It's the first time they've won twenty games in a month since May 2007.................I'm hoping for the same end result. :D
 
Tigers ended August at .500 for the month at 13-13.
Since the AS Break they are 8-8 ...

Not great by a long shot, but not the 5-11 people were expecting either.
 
They have revenue to support the expense. They SHOULD spend it on players.


Sandra

GREAT for them....that is still alot of money. The Red Sox fans can no longer complain about how the so-called "evil empire" spends because they have been right there with them for almost a decade....if not longer. They have become a mini-me "evil empire" themselves in many ways.
 
GREAT for them....that is still alot of money. The Red Sox fans can no longer complain about how the so-called "evil empire" spends because they have been right there with them for almost a decade....if not longer. They have become a mini-me "evil empire" themselves in many ways.

Actually, you're making a good point. Since the Red Sox won two World Series, and their payroll has entered he rarified air of the Yankees', I don't remember 'evil empire' being mentioned from Boston for a long time.


Sandra
 
Actually, you're making a good point. Since the Red Sox won two World Series, and their payroll has entered he rarified air of the Yankees', I don't remember 'evil empire' being mentioned from Boston for a long time.


Sandra

GREAT for them....that is still alot of money. The Red Sox fans can no longer complain about how the so-called "evil empire" spends because they have been right there with them for almost a decade....if not longer. They have become a mini-me "evil empire" themselves in many ways.


"Evil Empire" moniker had almost nothing to do with payroll. It had more to do with perceived good vs. evil. Stienbrenner being Darth Vader and such.

You can spend it when more than 200 people show up for games.
 
"Evil Empire" moniker had almost nothing to do with payroll. It had more to do with perceived good vs. evil. Stienbrenner being Darth Vader and such.

You can spend it when more than 200 people show up for games.

Nice try....Before coming into this year, they had 631 straight sell outs. That rounds out to approx. 8 years..and I am sure the team has averaged at least 2 million fans a year since the 80s....so they have been coming in for a very long time. So they have had the money based on the fans, to "spend it".
 
Nice try....Before coming into this year, they had 631 straight sell outs. That rounds out to approx. 8 years..and I am sure the team has averaged at least 2 million fans a year since the 80s....so they have been coming in for a very long time. So they have had the money based on the fans, to "spend it".

It's also the committment from John Henry's ownership group that put money back into Fenway Park and to spend money on players and player development. The prior group didn't have the same plan.
 
Nice try....Before coming into this year, they had 631 straight sell outs. That rounds out to approx. 8 years..and I am sure the team has averaged at least 2 million fans a year since the 80s....so they have been coming in for a very long time. So they have had the money based on the fans, to "spend it".

Ahhh. The age old question. What comes first? The chicken or the egg?

In the infamous words of a baseball classic, I tend to believe that "if you build it, they will come". In most markets.

If the owner of a ballclub puts money into his team and that team is highly competitive year in and year out, that teams owner will be rewarded at the turnstiles. This is the case in Boston. Can't fault them for success.
 
It's also the committment from John Henry's ownership group that put money back into Fenway Park and to spend money on players and player development. The prior group didn't have the same plan.

I am so torn in getting a stadium and hold tax payers hostage. When John was down here, he just didn't stand up to the crooked politicians like I had wanted him to.
 
The Red Sox will be starting Bedard on Thursday but keeping Miller in the rotation and thereby expanding it to a six man rotation, for now. Presumably, he will get skipped during any stretch that includes an off-day.

If the playoffs started tomorrow, the Red Sox would have to make a tough decision regarding their third starter. I think they would have to put Lacky in there for the first rotation, but if he got shelled, then who knows? I think my second choice for third starter might be Aceves. I'd rather go with Gary Waslewski as a third starter than anyone else that the Sox have available.
 
Consider yourselves lucky BoSox... Jimenez won't make his debut until Friday when we play Texas.

Don't worry, the Sox were looking forward to facing him. ;) Here's Ubaldo's line (13-1 record at the time) from last year's appearance vs. the Sox:

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IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	BF	Pit
5.2	10	6	6	0	7	1	28	106
 
Don't worry, the Sox were looking forward to facing him. ;) Here's Ubaldo's line (13-1 record at the time) from last year's appearance vs. the Sox:

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IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	BF	Pit
5.2	10	6	6	0	7	1	28	106

Holding the Red Hot Red Sox to 6 runs is an accomplishment. ;)

And btw, was that game AT Colorado or Boston? I hear he's a completely different pitcher outside of Colorado.
 
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