MLB 2011 Season

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Before any Bostonians tout Jed Lowrie as an All-Star, please note that after hitting .368 in April, he hit only .261 in May and is presently hitting .167 in June.
And more importantly, he's been very shaky at SS. That's a problem, since shortstop is the only infield position he can realistically crack on this team (unless they move Pedroia to SS...which is VERY unlikely).
 
Red Sox sweep the A's, as John Lackey comes off the DL and picks up the win.

The Sox now go on a nine game trip through the AL East (three games each in NY, Toronto and TB).
 
The Red Sox confirmed today that Wakefield will pitch in Buckholz's sheduled turn versus the Yankees on ESPN Wednesday night to get Buckholz a couple extra days rest. Wakefield was otherwise going to miss his turn in the rotation because of the off day in the Red Sox schedule Monday.

Wake-field!!
Wake-field!!
 
en fuego!

I still have NO CLUE where he is gonna end up. This is almost gonna be a Lebron type frenzy when the season is over....minus that "decision" bullsh*&, of course. There is gonna be all kinds of speculation and wishing. Hell, down here, they are already talking in about a Hanley for Albert trade. LMAO!
 
I still have NO CLUE where he is gonna end up. This is almost gonna be a Lebron type frenzy when the season is over....minus that "decision" bullsh*&, of course. There is gonna be all kinds of speculation and wishing. Hell, down here, they are already talking in about a Hanley for Albert trade. LMAO!

That ain't going to happen. They would have to trade the entire team due to the fact they don't want to have a high payroll.
 
That ain't going to happen. They would have to trade the entire team due to the fact they don't want to have a high payroll.

According to who? The difference between the 2 now is 3.5 Million. I am sure the Marlins would have throw in some players. Also, that would be huge gate to a new stadium. Gotta spend money to make money. I don't think it will happen because personally, I think the Cubs my have the heads up on everyone not being the Cubs.
 
Isn't he a 10/5 guy? So it doesn't matter if he had a no-trade clause or not.
 
Isn't he a 10/5 guy? So it doesn't matter if he had a no-trade clause or not.
I'm not sure what you're saying. A NTC (currently limited) was built into his contract:

Albert Pujols 1b
7 years/$100M (2004-10), plus 2011 club option

signed extension with St. Louis 2/19/04 (avoided arbitration, $10.5M-$7M)
04:$7M, 05:$11M, 06:$14M, 07:$15M, 08:$16M, 09:$16M, 10:$16M, 11:$16M club option ($5M buyout)
if option is not exercised, $4M of $5M buyout is deferred without interest
complete no-trade clause for 2004-2006, with a limited no-trade clause for 2007 through end of deal
$3M/year (2007-11) deferred without interest, to be paid in 10 installments of $1.2M from 2020 to 2029, reducing present-day value at signing to $90,276,957
award bonuses: $50,000 each for Silver Slugger, Gold Glove, All Star ($25,000 AS selection); $0.1M for LCS MVP; $0.15M for WS MVP; $0.2M for MVP ($0.1M for 2nd in vote, $50,000 for 3rd)
perks: right to purchase 4 season tickets and luxury box at stadium each year
Pujols to make 4 trips to Dominican Republic as club representative
St. Louis exercised $16M 2011 option 10/6/10

1 year/$0.9M (2003)

re-signed by St. Louis 3/03 (record for third-year player)

1 year/$0.6M (2002)
re-signed by St. Louis 3/02
1 year/$0.2M (2001)
contract purchased by St. Louis 3/01
drafted by St. Louis 1999 (13-402) (Maple Woods CC)

signing bonus of almost $60,000 (turned down initial $10,000 offer & played '99 season in Jayhawk League)
agents: Dan Lozano
ML service: 10.000
 
I'm not sure what you're saying. A NTC (currently limited) was built into his contract:

A 10/5 player is 10 years in the league and 5 with the same team. That provision in the collective bargaining agreement allows them to deny any trade period.
 
A 10/5 player is 10 years in the league and 5 with the same team. That provision in the collective bargaining agreement allows them to deny any trade period.

I see, but as it turns out, he had the NTC contractually well before he earned it as a 10/5 player...
 
But it said in your post, after 2007, it is a "limited no trade clause"...which more than likely means he will only except trades to teams he want.

It ain't gonna be the Marlins. What would you have, Albert at first, surrounded by some A and AA players?? Anyone of value would be gone in the trade, and they wouldn't be able to afford much else...
 
It ain't gonna be the Marlins. What would you have, Albert at first, surrounded by some A and AA players?? Anyone of value would be gone in the trade, and they wouldn't be able to afford much else...

Obviously you did not read the link I found. You are assuming they wouldn't be able to afford much.
 
Obviously you did not read the link I found. You are assuming they wouldn't be able to afford much.

OK, I just read it.

Let’s have a little fun.

No doubt Pujols put the Marlins on the list fully aware they likely didn’t have the financial wherewithal to keep him long-term even if they could acquire him.

Employing a little suspension of disbelief, let’s assume the Marlins could afford it and the Cardinals are ready to deal.

Not exactly ringing endorsements of the Marlins cash flow situation. Got another link??
 
OK, I just read it.

Not exactly ringing endorsements of the Marlins cash flow situation. Got another link??

I notice that you forgot a few things to add to you "ringing endorsement" comment and lack of lack of knowledge of the Marlins team:

What are you prepared to give up for him? If the Cardinals say Hanley Ramirez and either Mike Stanton or Logan Morrison have to be in the deal, do you still pursue a trade? Ideally, the Marlins could build a package without including Stanton or Morrison, but can’t imagine the Cardinals would go for it.

How about: Ramirez, Gaby Sanchez, Ricky Nolasco, Matt Dominguez, and Chad James? Too much, even if it means hanging on to Morrison and Stanton?

In the players highlighted, you have 2 starters..consisting of the obvious superstar and the replacement 1st basemen. A given for a trade this big. You have a very good starter in Ricky and two very good prospects. Marlins would get to keep their two young guns in Stanton and Morrison AND get Pujols(and more than likely a minor leaguer or two). Not ONLY does that team stay pretty much intact with their pitching...their strength, but they have added the best player in baseball and a major draw to a brand new stadium who WILL compete for National League East with the Phillies.

So HOW would this team be considered Pujols with a bunch of A and AA ball players again? Mind you, this team is only 4 games behind the Phils with a superstar in a terrible slump and their ace hurt.
 
I notice that you forgot a few things to add to you "ringing endorsement" comment and lack of lack of knowledge of the Marlins team:



In the players highlighted, you have 2 starters..consisting of the obvious superstar and the replacement 1st basemen. A given for a trade this big. You have a very good starter in Ricky and two very good prospects. Marlins would get to keep their two young guns in Stanton and Morrison AND get Pujols(and more than likely a minor leaguer or two). Not ONLY does that team stay pretty much intact with their pitching...their strength, but they have added the best player in baseball and a major draw to a brand new stadium who WILL compete for National League East with the Phillies.

So HOW would this team be considered Pujols with a bunch of A and AA ball players again? Mind you, this team is only 4 games behind the Phils with a superstar in a terrible slump and their ace hurt.

OK, let's recap. I said:
It ain't gonna be the Marlins. What would you have, Albert at first, surrounded by some A and AA players?? Anyone of value would be gone in the trade, and they wouldn't be able to afford much else...

You ignored the player comment and addressed the Marlins ability to afford him and still field a competitive team:

Obviously you did not read the link I found. You are assuming they wouldn't be able to afford much.

I posted quotes from your link which seemed to back my contention about the financial issues:

Let’s have a little fun.

No doubt Pujols put the Marlins on the list fully aware they likely didn’t have the financial wherewithal to keep him long-term even if they could acquire him.

Employing a little suspension of disbelief, let’s assume the Marlins could afford it and the Cardinals are ready to deal.

If you want to change the argument to who would be left after a trade and ignore the fiscal situation, that's OK I guess.

But, that's just it, it's anyone's guess who would be included in any such deal, and therefore who would be left to play. But, there's not too much guesswork involved in determining what kind of team payroll they could afford.
 
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