Actually DISH paid 56 million for the channels while the issue made its way through court. When the court upheld Disney's posistion DISH yanked the channels.
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Actually DISH paid 56 million for the channels while the issue made its way through court. When the court upheld Disney's posistion DISH yanked the channels.
Actually you have it backwards. Disney pulled the channels while the contract is being decided in court. Dish contends that they do not have to pay separate for the HD version of the channels.
The payment Dish had to make to Disney was a late payment dispute which Disney won. Essentially Dish was not paying Disney fast enough for the programming, so they had to pay to be current and interest payments. It was a separate case from the HD dispute. The HD dispute was not won by Disney and they are appealing it.
Infact when I was a dish sub I NEVER contacted my contractor with programming questions. I ALWAYS contacted dish directly!
I thought Disney was winning and it was Dish that was appealing. Or have I got that wrong?
their website is wrong then (surprise surprise)
AT120 and AT120+ only show the CD channels and not Sirius
As I recall, there are lawsuits in both the NY State Court System and the federal court. Dish lost at the state level and won at the federal level. One suit was over late payment and they lost that. I think they also lost at the state level over the HD channel pricing. The federal court sided with Dish over the HD channel pricing.
doesn't one lawsuit have to do with the free starz promo that ended. disney said it devauled their movies since they have a big deal with starz
Go to DISH.COM and select Entertainment > Find Your Package > America's Top 120 > See Details
Scroll down to: KEY FEATURES
Which then recaps the programming as such ...
- 120 must-have channels
- Includes some America’s most-watched channels like CNN, ESPN, Disney Channel and Discovery Channel
- With over 60 SiriusXM music channels
Best I can tell there are two lawsuits. One was filed in New York and heard by the Manhattan Supreme Court. DISH then attempted to have that judgement thrown out by another state judge, which was refused. Another suit was filed in federal court concerning the free Starz promo. I can't find any other updates.
Disney Entitled to $56 Million From Dish Network, Jury Finds
Joel Stashenko All Articles
New York Law Journal
October 25, 2011
A jury late Friday found that The Walt Disney Co. properly collected about $56 million in fees from 2007 to 2010 from the Dish Network Corp. for the rights to carry four high-definition channels affiliated with the entertainment giant.
The Manhattan Supreme Court jury deliberated for about seven hours before returning a 5-1 verdict in favor of Disney and its affiliates in Echostar Satellite LLC v. ESPN Inc., 600282/08. Justice Jeffrey K. Oing presided over the eight-day trial.
"Obviously, our client is very pleased with the verdict," said David Yohai of Weil, Gotshal & Manges, which represented Disney and its affiliates ESPN, the ABC Cable Network and International Family Entertainment.
At issue was Dish Network's obligation to pay fees to Disney under contracts that Echostar, which spun off the Dish Network, signed with Disney in 2005 (NYLJ, Oct. 12).
Dish argued that the contracts contained the rights for it to carry 12 Disney-related channels, including the four high-definition channels it began offering customers in 2007: Disney Channel HD, Disney XD HD, ABC Family HD and ESPNews HD. The satellite provider contended that the four channels were merely high-definition versions of channels that Dish already had rights to under the 2005 contracts.
Disney countered that the contracts explicitly required Dish to pay an extra fee for the HD channels, which it argued were separate networks and not merely feeds of a standard definition network.
Dish agreed to pay the licensing rights while reserving the right to pursue the case in court. It filed the state action in 2008.
The satellite provider ultimately pulled the four channels off its network in June 2010.
Mark C. Zauderer of Flemming Zulack Williamson Zauderer declined to comment this morning, saying he had not spoken yet with Dish Network executives about the verdict. He said the 2005 contracts are also the subject of litigation in federal court.
Aaron Johnson, a spokesman for the Englewood, Colo.-based Dish Network, declined to comment yesterday on the jury’s verdict.
James W. Quinn and Theodore E. Tsekerides were among the Weil, Gotshal & Manges team that defended Disney and its affiliates.
@|Joel Stashenko can be contacted at jstashenko@alm.com.
This article originally appeared in the New York Law Journal.
Here's an update from December 12, 2011 ...
EchoStar Can't Nix Verdict In Disney HD Fee Case
By Eric Hornbeck
Law360, New York (December 14, 2011, 4:03 PM ET) -- A New York state judge refused Wednesday to chuck a jury's finding that television networks owned by The Walt Disney Co. had properly collected $56 million in fees for high-definition versions of their broadcasts under licensing contracts with EchoStar Satellite LLC.
In October, a jury found in a 5-1 decision that ESPN Inc. and other Disney-owned networks had followed the letter of the license agreement EchoStar, which is affiliated with Dish Network Corp., when it collected the fees for its HD feeds.
And here's an update about Disney/Starz suing DISH over the free view promo ...
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Washington, D.C. (June 6, 2011) -- Dish Network customers: If you're getting free Starz channels as part of a year-long promotional offer, don't worry, you can still watch them for free.
Reuters reports that a federal judge on Friday denied Walt Disney's bid to stop Dish Network from including such Disney movies as Toy Story 3 and Alice in Wonderland in the offer. The judge did not explain why he was rejecting Disney's request for an injunction.
However, Disney had filed a copyright infringement suit against Dish last month, saying it "devalued" its movies by including them in a giveaway promotional offer. As part of its 30th anniversary, Dish this year has offered Starz movie channels for free, saying its contract with Starz permits it to do so. (The free offer began in February and will last until February 2012 for all Dish customers.)
"Dish Network pays hundreds of millions of dollars for the right to distribute Starz content to our customers, which includes the rights to a number of Disney movies," Dish said last May.
But Disney argued that Starz only has permission to air its films if TV providers carried the channel as a premium. Starz joined Disney in the battle by filing its own lawsuit against Dish, urging the satcaster to stop the free promotional effort. That lawsuit is still pending.
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there are several errors on the site. that is one of them. it has been confermed as a site error. did you read any previous post
I believe what a DIRT rep says
http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-forum/277637-sirius-radio.html#post2775335
Sirius is only available in AT200 and above packages. They are not a part of the AT120+ package.
If Dish wants to establish this as a new era they need to do some price comparison shopping. If Dish can't negotiate with the studios for a low as price as Amazon then tell the studio take a hike or at least don't feature the movie.
For example nne of this month's featured PPV movies on Dish is the Ides of March at $5.99/$4.99.
It is available from Amazon at $1.99 so I will play it on my ROKU. Not only is Amazon cheaper it is also more convenient. The ordering process quicker and more straight forward. The movie will start when I select it no waiting or having to record it to my EHD.
I realize some of the convenience features and on demand video is available on certain receivers, but why should I have to upgrade receivers when a $49 ROKO will do the same plus give me many additional channels?
For example nne of this month's featured PPV movies on Dish is the Ides of March at $5.99/$4.99.
It is available from Amazon at $1.99 so I will play it on my ROKU. Not only is Amazon cheaper it is also more convenient. The ordering process quicker and more straight forward. The movie will start when I select it no waiting or having to record it to my EHD.
I realize some of the convenience features and on demand video is available on certain receivers, but why should I have to upgrade receivers when a $49 ROKO will do the same plus give me many additional channels?
DISH is the HIGHEST in the industry for pay per views. They charge $6.99 for a hd movie that is on their partition of the hard drive and sometimes it's $7.99. I can watch in hd quality on Vudu or BlockBuster online or Cinema now and it is only $3.99 to $4.99 per movie. Looks as good as DISH hd and it is cheaper. DISH continues to hike everything in price from the FEES to even the pay per views. They could sell them at a cheaper price and more people would use them and they would still make money. DISH is going to price themselves right out of the market.
I have to agree that the price for PPV HD is outrageous when considering every other vehicle out there for watching a movie, be it Netflix BB or even outright buying the movie. Outrageous is not too strong a word either, it might be rather kind. 
If that's the case it's more than a site error because we got it in a retailer update and it's in all the printed marketing material. However, I've asked the DIRT team to take another look at it.
At this day and age, I don't even see a reason to offer PPV movies with Netflix, Vudu, Roku, etc... that are out there. Heck, if they could force all of their subs to connect all their receivers to the internet and expand their VOD offerings, I could see Dish just go VOD only without the need to offer PPV at all (except for PPV sports.) Then they can get rid of most, if not all, of their PPV channels and use all of that newly free bandwidth to add more HD channels or maybe make the RSNs full-time HD.
ckhalil18 said:
but not every one has broadband or can get good boadband. dsl in my area is a joke. cable bb is best option here unless sat bb is some only options but they are limited and pricy. you can't hook up a roku on some and most don't support game councels plus the have data caps.
If dish has PPV for $1.99 they could almost start to compete with Red Box.
They would rent 20 times more than they do today and make tons of profits.
For now I use Red Box. I would rather Pay 1.99 and not have to drive to a box and then wait in line.
They would rent 20 times more than they do today and make tons of profits.
For now I use Red Box. I would rather Pay 1.99 and not have to drive to a box and then wait in line.
