High Def Disc unit sales - The Digital Bits

[navychop]

Yeah. Only 400,000 YTD.

 

[navychop]

From Home Media Magazine:

Software units sales ratios as of 10/21/07:
Week ending .........Blu-ray 51.......HD-DVD 49
YTD:....................Blu-ray 65.......HD-DVD 35
Since inception:.....Blu-ray 61.......HD-DVD 39

Normalized to make comparison with previous postings easier:
Week ending .........Blu-ray 100.......HD-DVD 96
YTD:....................Blu-ray 100.......HD-DVD 54
Since inception:.....Blu-ray 100.......HD-DVD 63.9

This week's report covered the opening week sales of Transformers on HD DVD (& DVD) only. This was likely the best chance for HD DVD titles to outsell Blu-ray titles this year. Every week since Xmas 2006, Blu-ray title sales have exceeded HD DVD sales. Note that HMM states about 115,000 HD DVD copies of Transformers was sold at retail, as opposed to prior claims of 190,000. Still, a very good sales rate. Will it be topped this year?

Thanks to Transformers on HD DVD, many of us were able to buy several Blu-ray discs at 2 for 1 and even $10 @. Thanks!

 

[BobMurdoch]

How can it be? If they've already sold 1/3 to 1/2 the HD DVD player owners a copy, how many more can be interested? How many more HD DVD players will sell this year? Of course, the DVD version will keep selling. And they'll sell a boatload when/if they ever release it on Blu-ray in future years.

Despite claims of PS3 not selling well, it's selling way more than any stand alone players. And the 40GB version preorders are sold out on Amazon, however many that was. The gap between devices that can play Blu-ray, and devices that can play HD DVD, looks to be growing.

If that's the case, why isn't BluRay pulling away?

The number of people buying PS3s nowadays seem to be gamers vs. the mix of folks early on who wanted a cheap BluRay player....

BluRay's fire sale held HD DVD off by a couple thousand units... we'll see if the Transformers HD DVD has legs to keep it close for the next week. Spiderman 3 hits the chart the following week, so BluRay should take a big leap back into front then (unless word gets out about the issues raised with the disc quality and delays sales...)

 

[diogen]

Spiderman 3 hits the chart the following week...

For some reason I don't believe SM on BD will be as big a seller as it is expected to be by the BD boys.
Just look at torrent sites: it has been downloaded gazillion times including the BD version of SM3 (reencoded to 8GB).
Die-hard fans will buy it, but the thunder of the same day DVD/HD release (what Transformers had) is not there...

Would be interesting to see the numbers...

Diogen.

 

[vurbano]

How can it be? If they've already sold 1/3 to 1/2 the HD DVD player owners a copy, how many more can be interested? How many more HD DVD players will sell this year? Of course, the DVD version will keep selling. And they'll sell a boatload when/if they ever release it on Blu-ray in future years.

Despite claims of PS3 not selling well, it's selling way more than any stand alone players. And the 40GB version preorders are sold out on Amazon, however many that was. The gap between devices that can play Blu-ray, and devices that can play HD DVD, looks to be growing.

They will sell a boatload of HD DVD players at xmas given its dropping price.

 

[JoeSp]

That new $198 price at Walmart is sure going to sell a few HD-DVD players. We will have to see if BD can step up and drop a hammer here and there to counteract Toshiba's moves. Seems like Toshiba is pulling out all the stops to regain momentum and a lead over BD. They needed to do something and they have. You can now buy the cheepee A2 at Walmart and pick up Transformers on HD-DVD. I guess you guys are looking for a one-trick poney to ride and that 'I will beat you to the cellar first' by Toshiba has been tossed. Hope this does the trick because if BD continues to hold the lead and continues to bear down on that standalone lead then don't look for anyone else to jump in the back seat of HD-DVD's car cause after showing your skivies there is no where else to drop to.

BTW, is there anyone here interested in purchasing the Toshiba A30? Seems making money on HD-DVD is not in their game plan. Well, M$ is still surving after 5 years and no money made on the XBOX360 -- Heck, they put themselves in a $2 billion dollar hole by manufacturing a defective product -- admit it -- and still people buy it. Shows Americans will buy anything if they think the price is right. We are going to be easy pickin's for the Chinese!

 

[vurbano]

That new $198 price at Walmart is sure going to sell a few HD-DVD players. We will have to see if BD can step up and drop a hammer here and there to counteract Toshiba's moves. Seems like Toshiba is pulling out all the stops to regain momentum and a lead over BD. They needed to do something and they have. You can now buy the cheepee A2 at Walmart and pick up Transformers on HD-DVD. I guess you guys are looking for a one-trick poney to ride and that 'I will beat you to the cellar first' by Toshiba has been tossed. Hope this does the trick because if BD continues to hold the lead and continues to bear down on that standalone lead then don't look for anyone else to jump in the back seat of HD-DVD's car cause after showing your skivies there is no where else to drop to.

BTW, is there anyone here interested in purchasing the Toshiba A30? Seems making money on HD-DVD is not in their game plan. Well, M$ is still surving after 5 years and no money made on the XBOX360 -- Heck, they put themselves in a $2 billion dollar hole by manufacturing a defective product -- admit it -- and still people buy it. Shows Americans will buy anything if they think the price is right. We are going to be easy pickin's for the Chinese!

Goof Grief Joe You sit there and mock Toshiba for their price strategy when the only reason Sony leads anything is because they slapped a BD player in a game system so they could claim victory in player sales.

 

[navychop]

Actually, I kinda doubt SM3 will sell at a fantastic rate, either (maybe 50-100k first week)- but then I don't see how that movie or Transformers would interest anybody out of HS.

But I know my tastes are different. I also don't care for sports. :sleeo

 

[navychop]

Note that the figures may be subject to change. It appears Transformers in HD DVD may have only sold 90,000 in the first week. See another thread I have started on this for details.

 

[vurbano]

Note that the figures may be subject to change. It appears Transformers in HD DVD may have only sold 90,000 in the first week. See another thread I have started on this for details.

Really? Or do you just post any negative dribble you can get ahold of as fact? As you did in your "Transformers only sold 115,000 copies" thread?

 

[navychop]

Dribble? You refer to Nielson Videoscan, including their first alerts as dribble? That's the source of the figures.

Transformers in HD DVD sold less than 90,000 copies the first week. NOT 190,000 copies as reported by Paramount. And that's a FACT, as reported by an independent company whose business it is to gather such numbers.

Accept it. And quit with the personal attacks.

 

[haertig]

I guess you guys are looking for a one-trick poney to ride and that 'I will beat you to the cellar first' by Toshiba has been tossed. Hope this does the trick because if BD continues to hold the lead and continues to bear down on that standalone lead then don't look for anyone else to jump in the back seat of HD-DVD's car cause after showing your skivies there is no where else to drop to.

Looks like BOTH sides are on the "one trick pony" express then...

Sony Loses $876 Million in Gaming Division, Doubling Estimates - CE Pro Article

From that article:

The PlayStation 3, Sony’s flagship game player with a built-in Blu-ray Disc player, is a loss-leader, with money lost on hardware sales and made up on games and movie software.

I have no real stake in this war yet, having not bought a player or a single HD movie (any format) yet. I'm watching for entertainment only at this point (not the movies, the war!) I think it's interesting to see all the accusations and comments putting down one side or the other fly, when both sides are doing the exact same thing. And no, I'm not knocking on JoeSp's post even though I quoted it in the lead-on to my post here. It's just an example of what you see everywhere. In these forums, on general news sites, in blogs, ... everywhere. The pot calling the kettle black (with who's the pot, and who's the kettle, changing daily).

 

[vurbano]

Dribble? You refer to Nielson Videoscan, including their first alerts as dribble? That's the source of the figures.

Transformers in HD DVD sold less than 90,000 copies the first week. NOT 190,000 copies as reported by Paramount. And that's a FACT, as reported by an independent company whose business it is to gather such numbers.

Accept it. And quit with the personal attacks.

I think its dribble as long as Paramount sticks to their 190,000 figure which they have. How many different numbers have you regurgitated now as fact? 190,000 115,000, 90,000???? Whats next? You post from any rag you can find. some figures from entertainment weekly? the enquirer magazine? Hey, maybe I should start a blog and you can post some from there? Im surprised you havent posted from BD.com, thedigitalbits or beatboys website.

 

[seminole2001]

I think its dribble as long as Paramount sticks to their 190,000 figure which they have. How many different numbers have you regurgitated now as fact? 190,000 115,000, 90,000???? Whats next? You post from any rag you can find. some figures from entertainment weekly? the enquirer magazine? Hey, maybe I should start a blog and you can post some from there? Im surprised you havent posted from BD.com, thedigitalbits or beatboys website.

I see your point...Nelson Media Research Company, an unbiased company that sole purpose is the measure media has everything to gain from Blue-Ray's win.

 

[diogen]

...Nelson Media Research Company, an unbiased company that sole purpose is the measure media...

Just imagine what a field day the BD fans will have when their next report (that doesn't account for WalMart sales, by definition) will show again that BD is winning...

Diogen.

 

[tnsprin]

Just imagine what a field day the BD fans will have when their next report (that doesn't account for WalMart sales, by definition) will show again that BD is winning...

Diogen.

Actually Nielsen is again getting SOME number from WalMart. Not sure if it includes HD-dvd/Blu_ray players or discs.

 

[navychop]

From Home Media Magazine:

Software units sales ratios as of 10/28/07:
Week ending .........Blu-ray 55.......HD-DVD 45
YTD:....................Blu-ray 64.......HD-DVD 36
Since inception:.....Blu-ray 60.......HD-DVD 40
Normalized to make comparison with previous postings easier:
Week ending .........Blu-ray 100.......HD-DVD 82
YTD:....................Blu-ray 100.......HD-DVD 56
Since inception:.....Blu-ray 100.......HD-DVD 67

 

[CochiseGuy]

From Home Media Magazine:

Software units sales ratios as of 10/28/07:
Week ending .........Blu-ray 55.......HD-DVD 45
YTD:....................Blu-ray 64.......HD-DVD 36
Since inception:.....Blu-ray 60.......HD-DVD 40
Normalized to make comparison with previous postings easier:
Week ending .........Blu-ray 100.......HD-DVD 82
YTD:....................Blu-ray 100.......HD-DVD 56
Since inception:.....Blu-ray 100.......HD-DVD 67

Hmmmm - YTD increased another notch for HD DVD, and that's the first change I've seen in Since Inception in a long time, another notch up for HD DVD. Somewhat likely to slip back this week of the Spider and next week of the Rat.

The Top 10 selling titles -

Top 5 BD Titles -

Top 5 HD DVD titles -

Probably interesting for Warner to see HD DVD outselling BD on 300, Planet Earth and 2001 - before the new 50-100k Wal-Mart shopping new HD DVD owners.

 

[seminole2001]

Just imagine what a field day the BD fans will have when their next report (that doesn't account for WalMart sales, by definition) will show again that BD is winning...

Diogen.

That's completely
uncalled for, Burgundy.



You know those
rating systems are flawed.



They don't take into account
houses that have



more than two television sets
and other things of that nature.



I guess I have to take you
at your word,



Number Two.

 

[teachsac]

oooohhhh that free Heroes w/the Xbox addon is paying off.

S~