2015 NCAA football discussion thread

[vurbano]

Iowa, Clempson, and both OSU's are undefeated, so comparing W/L of opponents means nothing as long as Alabama has an L and they don't. When/if they lose, then bring on the comparisons. Until then, they deserve a spot over the Alabama.

In your world, but not in the minds of most of college football or the committee. Its been recognized for years and years by placing a one loss team up in the rankings from the SEC that they simply play tougher schedules and their wins mean more than the ACC etc. Yet if Clemson loses they will fall like a rock in a deep ocean.

 

[Ronnie-]

I think the lack of a championship game and a subpar schedule keeps the Big 12 champ at home yet again, even undefeated. IF they slip in, it will be over ND, and not Bama.

That is assuming those above keep winning and we have several undefeated teams. I can see the top four shuffling, but only if some of the undefeated teams lose. Or all of them.

 

[vurbano]

Well I disagree with placing ND over Ohio State. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/forde-...nking-wins-of-contenders-005738511-ncaaf.html

 

[vurbano]

Jimbo will like this one.

you forgot they cant punt at the end of the game.

 

[Derwin0]

In your world, but not in the minds of most of college football or the committee.

And in your world Ohio St. didn't deserve to be in the Sugar Bowl with Alabama.

 

[king3pj]

Well I disagree with placing ND over Ohio State. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/forde-...nking-wins-of-contenders-005738511-ncaaf.html

Well to be fair he did it as if the season ended today. The reason he has Notre Dame in ahead of Ohio State right now is actually in the article. "Ohio State has no victories over anyone in the top 30."

Ohio State hasn't gotten to the part of their schedule where they play their strongest opponents yet. If they finish the season undefeated they will definitely get in over a 1 loss Notre Dame.

 

[vurbano]

Well to be fair he did it as if the season ended today. The reason he has Notre Dame in ahead of Ohio State right now is actually in the article. "Ohio State has no victories over anyone in the top 30."

Ohio State hasn't gotten to the part of their schedule where they play their strongest opponents yet. If they finish the season undefeated they will definitely get in over a 1 loss Notre Dame.

so they only play 2 decent teams all year? ND hasnt beaten anyone either.

 

[vurbano]

And in your world Ohio St. didn't deserve to be in the Sugar Bowl with Alabama.

I stick by what I said and neither did FSU. who were the two more deserving teams left back then? Baylor and TCU?

 

[Derwin0]

I stick by what I said and neither did FSU. who were the two more deserving teams left back then? Baylor and TCU?

Of course it could easily be said (and was shown by the Bucknuts) that Alabama & Oregon shouldn't have been there.

btw, doesn't the Tide have 3 straight Sugar Bowl losses? Perhaps the Sugar Bowl is where they shouldn't be,

 

[vurbano]

You will never get it. Based on opponent strength a one loss SEC team will always be there at the end if they win their conference championship. the rest of the conferences are just that weak. I do not understand why any special attention is given to undeafeted teams from patty cake conferences.

 

[Ronnie-]

btw, doesn't the Tide have 3 straight Sugar Bowl losses? Perhaps the Sugar Bowl is where they shouldn't be,

You focus on those three losses. I prefer to focus on all of the championships they have won, recent and early days. With a good shot at adding #16.

 

[Ronnie-]

Of course it could easily be said (and was shown by the Bucknuts) that Alabama & Oregon shouldn't have been there.

Going by who lost, nobody should have been there but OSU, including FSU. I think the correct four teams were selected.

 

[vurbano]

Going by who lost, nobody should have been there but OSU, including FSU. I think the correct four teams were selected.

going by the selections at the time FSU shouldnt have been in the mix nor Ohio

 

[vurbano]

btw, doesn't the Tide have 3 straight Sugar Bowl losses? Perhaps the Sugar Bowl is where they shouldn't be,

Doesnt your entire conference have 6 national championships while Alabama alone has 15? Like it or not, in denial or not, Bama is the measuring stick of college football and has been for a very long time.

 

[vurbano]

Going by who lost, nobody should have been there but OSU, including FSU. I think the correct four teams were selected.

the team they beat by 7 points shouldnt have been there?

 

[Ronnie-]

the team they beat by 7 points shouldnt have been there?

Sure, they lost. Why not take the "blank" should not have been there game further since they did not win.

 

[Derwin0]

Going by who lost, nobody should have been there but OSU, including FSU. I think the correct four teams were selected.

Actually so do I, I remember that I argued for those same 4 teams last year, not in the order that they were placed, but for those 4.

 

[Derwin0]

Doesnt your entire conference have 6 national championships while Alabama alone has 15? Like it or not, in denial or not, Bama is the measuring stick of college football and has been for a very long time.

Don't remember, though the ACC is much younger than the SEC, and most of GT's were from their SEC days.

Technically though, only 1 conference has an officially recognized National Championship, and it's isn't the SEC or ACC.

 

[Derwin0]

You will never get it. Based on opponent strength a one loss SEC team will always be there at the end if they win their conference championship. the rest of the conferences are just that weak. I do not understand why any special attention is given to undeafeted teams from patty cake conferences.

If they're just that weak, then how come the SEC lost both championship games the last 2 years?

 

[Ronnie-]

Don't remember, though the ACC is much younger than the SEC, and most of GT's were from their SEC days.

Technically though, only 1 conference has an officially recognized National Championship, and it's isn't the SEC or ACC.

Actually, the NCAA recognized championships long before the playoffs, they simply did not sanction a championship game. But the AP champs from years back are as much "national champions" as are the Buckeyes of last year. Same with the BCS