2011-12 NFL Season

[Rey]

schefter says that the two immediate candidates in OAK will be packers asst. HC Winston Moss and Packers secondary coach Darren Perry

 

[mdonnelly]

schefter says that the two immediate candidates in OAK will be packers asst. HC Winston Moss and Packers secondary coach Darren Perry

I think the list of possible candidates will be larger now than it used to be, with Al Davis gone. So many qualified coaches refused to work for him.

 

[salsadancer7]

Raiders have fired Hue Jackson.

Disagree TOTALLY with the move. BUT, I would not be surprised if his EGO and his mouth caused this. The difference between Hue and Rex Ryan, his big mouth has 4 playoff wins and 2 AFC appearances.... HueJax does not. Then again, he was never given long enough time to do so. He will be someone's offensive coordinator by the beginning of next season. He has a very bright mind when comes to NFL offenses.

 

[salsadancer7]

schefter says that the two immediate candidates in OAK will be packers asst. HC Winston Moss and Packers secondary coach Darren Perry

I stated this earlier. The more likely candidate is former Raider Moss. Darren Perry, I heard was being discussed as the DC.

 

[Hart5150]

Disagree TOTALLY with the move. BUT, I would not be surprised if his EGO and his mouth caused this. The difference between Hue and Rex Ryan, his big mouth has 4 playoff wins and 2 AFC appearances.... HueJax does not. Then again, he was never given long enough time to do so. He will be someone's offensive coordinator by the beginning of next season. He has a very bright mind when comes to NFL offenses.

If you want someone else to coach the team why delay the inevible? I think McKenzie learned from Ted Thompson who kept Sherman around for his 1st year, even though it wasn't his guy and it didn't work out well. Raiders have talent but, no discipline. That doesn't work in today's NFL. At least now you won't have to put up with crap coaches who are legacy hires.

 

[HD MM]

Uh oh. Better settle in Salsa. Looks like it's going to be a long ride with the new Sheriff in town. This according to PFT.....

Hue Jackson on Oakland Raiders: McKenzie is going to "gut this place".

 

[meStevo]

Uh oh. Better settle in Salsa. Looks like it's going to be a long ride with the new Sheriff in town. This according to PFT.....

Hue Jackson on Oakland Raiders: McKenzie is going to "gut this place".

Stay classy Hue.

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[salsadancer7]

Stay classy Hue.

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For NOW...he has:

Though McKenzie made the decision, there are strong indications that this was at the direction of new owner Mark Davis.

"I think Mark wants to make some changes going forward, to put his stamp on things,'' Jackson said. "I can understand that. That's his right.''

Monte Poole: Did Mark Davis make the call on Hue Jackson's firing? - Inside Bay Area

 

[salsadancer7]

Ironically, the head candidate is former Raider, former The U and from what one of my best friends who when to high school with him as well as The U.... "a great choice".

 

[SabresRule]

So close to the playoffs was Oakland.

Would have much better than the past week or so of Tebowwatch 24/7.

 

[Rey]

Ironically, the head candidate is former Raider, former The U and from what one of my best friends who when to high school with him as well as The U.... "a great choice".

maybe he can get you on the staff

 

[salsadancer7]

maybe he can get you on the staff

LMAO... no way!

 

[salsadancer7]

If you want someone else to coach the team why delay the inevible? I think McKenzie learned from Ted Thompson who kept Sherman around for his 1st year, even though it wasn't his guy and it didn't work out well. Raiders have talent but, no discipline. That doesn't work in today's NFL. At least now you won't have to put up with crap coaches who are legacy hires.

Well.. I honestly think this was a combo of McKenzie wanting "his guy" and how Hue Jackson's ego running amok. I did understand the trade for Carson Palmer. MANY in here didn't agree with it because all they saw was 2 possible #1s. No one really looked at the crap we had for a #2 QB and how incredibly green the #3 QB was for a team that was 7-4 and leading the division. Plus you throw in the other injuries, almost all in the offense...and something needed to be done. Jeff Garcia or Brett Favre was not gonna cut it.

 

[salsadancer7]

So close to the playoffs was Oakland.

Would have much better than the past week or so of Tebowwatch 24/7.

They are still within a player from going deep into the playoffs. Unless they change the offense completely...this team should still be favored to win the AFC West next year and on track to make the playoffs.

 

[salsadancer7]

Looks like I am not the only one that thought Hue's mouth/EGO got him in trouble:

In the end, Hue’s own words did him in

Posted by Mike Florio on January 10, 2012, 3:11 PM EST

Though Raiders coach Hue Jackson could have survived in the job if G.M. Reggie McKenzie had desired to keep him, McKenzie’s chances of keeping Hue took a major blow after Jackson openly talked about assuming more authority over the team.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, public comments from Jackson regarding his desire to exert greater influence rubbed owner Mark Davis and those advising him (e.g., John Madden, Ron Wolf) the wrong way.

“I’m going take a stronger hand in this whole team, this whole organization,” Jackson said after the Raiders’ season ended with a disappointing 8-8 record. “There ain’t no way that I’m going to feel like I feel today a year from now, I promise you that. There’s no question. Defensively, offensively and special teams. I ain’t feeling like this no more. This is a joke. . . . Yeah, I’m going to take a hand in everything that goes on here.”

The next day, Jackson made things even worse for himself. “I would hope that as the head coach of this football team I would hope that the organization understands that I have a pretty good idea of where we need to go,” he said as to his possible involvement in the search for a General Manager. “Because if not, then I shouldn’t be where I’m sitting.”

As it turns out, Jackson had plenty of influence on the organization. He said that if the organization didn’t think he should be involved in the search for a G.M., he “shouldn’t be where [he's] sitting.”

And now he isn’t.

In the end, Hue’s own words did him in | ProFootballTalk

 

[meStevo]

lol, friend of mine here at work is a Raiders fan, watched the press conference and called McKenzie and Smith "Dumb and Dumber" and expects to rebuild for 3-4+ years because of some of the things they were saying. Said that they appear content to demolish everything and start over. With this quote from PFT he may be right:

“I want to bring my guy in and Mark was OK with that, period. That’s what we want,” McKenzie said. “Let’s bring a new guy in and let him have a chance to put his system in place and put his mission statement together for that locker room.”

I'd take dumb over spiteful to a fault any day though.

108 days until the Raiders are on the clock with their first pick in the draft... presumably around 97th.

 

[meStevo]

So yeah, he tried 3 times to get a vote of confidince from Mark Davis and couldn't, so aired the dirty laundry after the Chargers game. Looks like he knew he was a dead man walking for a few weeks. He also believes his firing was due to Davis, not necessarily McKenzie.

Jackson believes his dismissal after a single 8-8 season as the Raiders’ coach was a decision ultimately made by owner Mark Davis, who has been running the franchise since his Hall of Fame father, Al, died last October.


“I’m not going to shed one tear, because I busted my ass for this organization, and I cherished the opportunity to do it,” Jackson said Tuesday in a telephone interview shortly after he received the news. “I have nothing but good things to say about the Raiders and their fans, and I’m proud of what I was able to accomplish in two years, as an offensive coordinator and coach.


“But it’s Mark Davis’ football team, and Mark’s going to do what he thinks is best. In the end I think he said, ‘I want to put my own stamp on it,’ and he wanted his own coach.”


Jackson said he and Davis had a meeting late last month, shortly before the team’s season-ending defeat to the San Diego Chargers, during which the coach asked if he would have a chance to meet the candidates during the franchise’s search for a general manager. Davis, Jackson said, rebuffed the request.


“I told him, ‘Then I have a concern, because normally a GM that comes in wants to bring in his head coach,’ ” Jackson recalled. “I said, ‘You can understand how that would make me feel,’ and he said, ‘Yes, I can.’ I gave him three opportunities to give me a vote of confidence, and he didn’t give me one. He said nothing.


“I knew then that there was a chance, regardless of how things went the rest of the season, that he wanted to make his own mark in this organization.”


If Jackson’s job was indeed in jeopardy at that point, the Chargers game and its aftermath certainly didn’t improve Jackson’s stock.

Jackson says Raiders owner made decision to fire him - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

If this is true, perhaps the apple didn't fall all that far from the tree. This could be fun to watch.

 

[HD MM]

In the meantime, more non-Oakland Raider news...

From Scheftey: Colts and Jim Irsay plan to hire Eagles director of player personnel, Ryan Grigson as their new GM.

 

[HD MM]

Jacksonville hired Falcons OC Mike Mularkey as their new Head Coach

 

[HD MM]

Former Chiefs HC Todd Haley visiting Jets today. Jets could team Tony Sparano as OC, Haley as asst HC, to repace Brian Schottenheimer.