2010 NCAA Football Season

[Jimbo]

Florida State during the 90s was one tough ass team. I miss that Fla St team. It made the UF vs FSU games so much more fun. Just like Id bet the OSU fans miss a strong Mich.. Cause the last several years UF vs FSU has been just a routine ass kicking. FSU has been getting better and I expect this years game to really have some fireworks..

Yup, the Bucks and Wolverines have been rather boring of late, but a win is a win.
Yes, I prefer M to be a strong team, helps the Big Ten as a whole.
That said, M got the favor for 13 years when Cooper was allowed to stay on, so they owe us another 6 years of ass whipping.
Weather they are good or not, we still need to keep pounding on them.

 

[Derwin0]

When they get past Boise St come Labor day with a win, they will be a contender which I hope at that point we stop hearing all this Boise St non sense along with all the miss conceptions that VT isn't a Title Contender.

I'm a bit confused...

On one hand you pretty much say Boise St. is a pretender, but on the other hand you say Va Tech is a contender if they beat Boise St.

Beating a pretender doesn't make you a contender.
So one or the other has to be wrong.

 

[SandraC]

I'm a bit confused...

On one hand you pretty much say Boise St. is a pretender, but on the other hand you say Va Tech is a contender if they beat Boise St.

Beating a pretender doesn't make you a contender.
So one or the other has to be wrong.

Lotsa pressure on Virginia Tech in this one. It's up to them to hold the fort for the 'established' BCS conferences. If Boise State walks out of there with a victory, there is a definite chance they could be knocking on the door of the national championship game come December.

A Virginia Tech loss would let a lot of people down.


Sandra

 

[Derwin0]

Lotsa pressure on Virginia Tech in this one. It's up to them to hold the fort for the 'established' BCS conferences. If Boise State walks out of there with a victory, there is a definite chance they could be knocking on the door of the national championship game come December.

A Virginia Tech loss would let a lot of people down.

I don't think a loss by Va Tech would change things. SEC-runner up Alabama got their asses handed to them by Utah in the Sugar Bowl and that changed nothing in the BCS.

If anything, that game meant more (as Alabama was #1 a few weeks prior to their loss to eventual champ Florida), than Va Tech playing Boise St.

If anything, this only matters to Va Tech's history of not fulfilling expectations.

 

[SandraC]

I don't think a loss by Va Tech would change things. SEC-runner up Alabama got their asses handed to them by Utah in the Sugar Bowl and that changed nothing in the BCS.

If anything, that game meant more (as Alabama was #1 a few weeks prior to their loss to eventual champ Florida), than Va Tech playing Boise St.

If anything, this only matters to Va Tech's history of not fulfilling expectations.

Totally agree with your last sentence, but the point of my post is that if Boise State beats Virginia Tech (sort of) at Virginia Tech next week, they will probably not go away all year regarding the national championship game picture. If Virginia Tech wins Boise State is toast.

Totally different from a BCS team losing in a bowl game, when the national championship game is already set.


Sandra

 

[Derwin0]

Totally different from a BCS team losing in a bowl game, when the national championship game is already set.

Not really. Utah was undefeated going into the game I mentioned, yet was left out in favor of 1-loss Florida & 1-loss Oklahoma.

If anything, an undefeated Boise St. will still be left out, same as they & Utah have been in the past.

 

[SandraC]

If anything, an undefeated Boise St. will still be left out, same as they & Utah have been in the past.

Probably. But a defeated Boise State team will definitely be left out.


Sandra

 

[cosmo_kramer]

An Oregon State University offensive lineman has been dismissed from the team after police say they found him naked and intoxicated in a stranger's home and had to use stun guns to take him into custody.

Corvallis police say they received the call about a naked intruder early Sunday.

Responding officers ordered 19-year-old Tyler Patrick Thomas of Kalispell, Mont., to get on the ground, Lt. Tim Brewer said.

Thomas refused and instead dropped into a three-point stance like a football player and lunged at the officers, Brewer said. At that point, he said, two officers fired their stun guns.

Oregon State Beavers lineman dismissed after arrest for trespassing naked - ESPN

If they start cutting all drunk college players who show up uninvited in stranger's homes there won't be any players left...

 

[dvrexpander]

I'm a bit confused...

On one hand you pretty much say Boise St. is a pretender, but on the other hand you say Va Tech is a contender if they beat Boise St.

Beating a pretender doesn't make you a contender.
So one or the other has to be wrong.

It's all in the hype, your missing the point. Voters or the stupid blind BCS voters are what push teams over other teams. I've seen the computer get it right many times based on numbers and the swing of one to the other comes from the votes of a human which we all know can and will be flawed based on emotion. Boise St is ranked in the AP polls of #3, do they deserve that?? Hell no, but beating the #3 by the #10 should pretty much switch places of the two leaving Boise St with the weakest looking schedule left to play for the remainder of the season.

If anything, this only matters to Va Tech's history of not fulfilling expectations.

VATech's history of not fulfilling expectations?? What are they expected to do unlike other teams year in and year out other than have a winning season? They've more than lived up to those expectations - again VT has the longest 10win season streak outside of Texas, last year it was between 3 teams and USC lost theirs. That says alot for expectations, and fans including myself don't "expect" them to do the same this year.. they will SEE it done just as previous years and perhaps even more than expected such as win that National Championship. If they don't then ohh well but I'm sure they will end up with another winning season.

 

[mccoyrj]

VATech's history of not fulfilling expectations?? What are they expected to do unlike other teams year in and year out other than have a winning season? They've more than lived up to those expectations - again VT has the longest 10win season streak outside of Texas, last year it was between 3 teams and USC lost theirs. That says alot for expectations, and fans including myself don't "expect" them to do the same this year.. they will SEE it done just as previous years and perhaps even more than expected such as win that National Championship. If they don't then ohh well but I'm sure they will end up with another winning season.

Over the last several years, VT seems to have been the big fish in a small pond. But when they jumped into the big pond, they always got eaten up by bigger fish. You're saying that VT fans have been content with this? I say BS.

 

[SabresRule]

VT seems to have been the big fish in a small pond. But when they jumped into the big pond, they always got eaten up by bigger fish.

See the 2007 LSU game.

 

[JAG72]

VATech's history of not fulfilling expectations?? What are they expected to do unlike other teams year in and year out other than have a winning season? They've more than lived up to those expectations - again VT has the longest 10win season streak outside of Texas, last year it was between 3 teams and USC lost theirs. That says alot for expectations, and fans including myself don't "expect" them to do the same this year.. they will SEE it done just as previous years and perhaps even more than expected such as win that National Championship. If they don't then ohh well but I'm sure they will end up with another winning season.

They only way they have had 10 win seasons is by including the bowl wins. They have had a few seasons lately that they only had 9 wins in the regular season. Sorry but having a three loss season does not fulfill many teams expectations.


EDIT: BTW if you go back and look Ohio State has just as many 10 win seasons in a row if you include the bowl games as VA Tech. So not sure how you say it was between only three teams.

 

[dvrexpander]

You're saying that VT fans have been content with this? I say BS.

No..not content - I'm sure all fans would love to see more but a 6year straight 10 win seasons regardless if the bowl game is counted is a good year vs many other teams that are lucky to break over .500 (Also the bowl games are also counted in Texas's 10win seasons as well)

See the 2007 LSU game.

Ohh man was that a sorry game.. I felt really bad after that ass whoopin, never fails though - ESPN pushes for VT to play a big ranked team for a opening "TV SPECIAL" like LSU that year (to be national champs) to Alabama last year (to be national Champs) to Boise St this year... I'll be honest that this type of crap pisses off the fans more than anything. This years Boise St game was supposed to be played in October.. many people including myself already made plans for it then. Now its put on a Monday???? Labor Day?!?! My god people... talk about messing up everything, less time for team to prepare for a big game like this, more time to miss work over, more money spent to go watch the game due to being on a holiday... I could go on and on with a few more but you get the idea.

Might I add that at the end of the 2007 season, VT was picked over LSU even after that game by the BCS Computer to be #2 and not #3 in the final standings before the National Champion ship game was played...

EDIT: BTW if you go back and look Ohio State has just as many 10 win seasons in a row if you include the bowl games as VA Tech. So not sure how you say it was between only three teams.

I'm only talking about current streaks... not something that happened 20 years ago, this is referenced many times on ESPN when both Texas and VT are discussed for final season outcomes. USC was in the running up until last years results took them out when they lost too many and didn't get their 10th win for the season.

 

[atl14dat]

Might I add that at the end of the 2007 season, VT was picked over LSU even after that game by the BCS Computer to be #2 and not #3 in the final standings before the National Champion ship game was played...



Damning Praise indeed!

Shows how terribly flawed the BCS Computer formulas are.


It's one thing to Have an Early Season Game between Team A & Team B both highly ranked at the outset of the season and Team A wins a close fought battle.

As the season unfolds Team B may go on to Win their remaining games and Team A stumbles to a loss.

A debateable point can them be made about who deserves the higher ranking at the end of the season. Cases made for either side. Completely understandable

All that said though when you have your asses handed to you 48-7 on National TV for all to see, then under no Circumstances do you deserve a higher ranking by any Subjective/Objective methods out there.

Hokies got their asses kicked they were not better than LSU no matter how many times the "Egg Head Brigades devise" formulas that lead to erroneous assumptions/conclusions such as this at any time/point in the season.

 

[JAG72]

I'm only talking about current streaks... not something that happened 20 years ago, this is referenced many times on ESPN when both Texas and VT are discussed for final season outcomes. USC was in the running up until last years results took them out when they lost too many and didn't get their 10th win for the season.

Edit - I stand corrected, OSU did not have a good record in 2004-2005.

Still with VA Tech having 3 loses in the regular season last year is not up to top ranked programs standards. If you are happy with 3 loses great but most fans and programs are not.

 

[mccoyrj]

See the 2007 LSU game.

...Ohh man was that a sorry game.. I felt really bad after that ass whoopin...

That was long overdue payback for the whipping VT put on the Tigers in 2002 up in Blacksburg.

 

[dvrexpander]

Hokies got their asses kicked they were not better than LSU no matter how many times the "Egg Head Brigades devise" formulas that lead to erroneous assumptions/conclusions such as this at any time/point in the season.

Just because you lose a game doesn't mean the other team is better... the whole regular season showed that based on numbers/stats etc... VT getting beat in that game is exactly that - no need to beat a dead horse.

Edit - I stand corrected, OSU did not have a good record in 2004-2005.

Still with VA Tech having 3 loses in the regular season last year is not up to top ranked programs standards. If you are happy with 3 loses great but most fans and programs are not.

3 loses is bad, the circumstances of at least one of them is even worse, getting beat by the soon to be national champs while putting more points against them than any other team the whole season isn't that bad either. Alabama won - awesome team last year, VT did out score all other teams against them including Florida, UNC won - good team as well they really held on and got a nice pick from the ONLY fumble ever lost by Freshman running back Ryan Williams, GT - good team but cheated that whole damn game and others as well, it was reported several times to Paul J that GT was getting away left and right with illegal chop blocks (or what Paul calls a "Scope/Gap" LOL WTF!?) to make their Option Offense work. I've never seen Frank Beamer complain about anything even after any loss except for that one and rightfully so.

Did VT lose 3 games - yes, did they recover good and play great up to the end - YES they sure did and retained a 10 win season which is again far better than many other teams out there and still ended up dominating Tenn in the bowl game.

They got called on several during the wake game after all the fussing over it came out from various games..

YouTube- What Paul Johnson thinks of chop blocks

I mean wow..this is what they did the whole game when they played VT!! Amazing!

YouTube- Illegal chop block? You be the judge.

Don't forget about this too... pretty much costed VT the game, clearly GT short by inches on a very very important drive yet the refs (same ones "missing" chop blocks"all night) move the ball up after CLEARLY shown on video that it was short...wow

YouTube- Ref moves ball after measuring to give GT first down over VT

Anyone here can argue what I've said...but there isn't one thing anyone can argue about those video's...

 

[Jimbo]

Just because you lose a game doesn't mean the other team is better... the whole regular season showed that based on numbers/stats etc... VT getting beat in that game is exactly that - no need to beat a dead horse.



3 loses is bad, the circumstances of at least one of them is even worse, getting beat by the soon to be national champs while putting more points against them than any other team the whole season isn't that bad either. Alabama won - awesome team last year, VT did out score all other teams against them including Florida, UNC won - good team as well they really held on and got a nice pick from the ONLY fumble ever lost by Freshman running back Ryan Williams, GT - good team but cheated that whole damn game and others as well, it was reported several times to Paul J that GT was getting away left and right with illegal chop blocks (or what Paul calls a "Scope/Gap" LOL WTF!?) to make their Option Offense work. I've never seen Frank Beamer complain about anything even after any loss except for that one and rightfully so.

Did VT lose 3 games - yes, did they recover good and play great up to the end - YES they sure did and retained a 10 win season which is again far better than many other teams out there and still ended up dominating Tenn in the bowl game.

They got called on several during the wake game after all the fussing over it came out from various games..

YouTube- What Paul Johnson thinks of chop blocks

I mean wow..this is what they did the whole game when they played VT!! Amazing!

YouTube- Illegal chop block? You be the judge.

Don't forget about this too... pretty much costed VT the game, clearly GT short by inches on a very very important drive yet the refs (same ones "missing" chop blocks"all night) move the ball up after CLEARLY shown on video that it was short...wow

YouTube- Ref moves ball after measuring to give GT first down over VT

Anyone here can argue what I've said...but there isn't one thing anyone can argue about those video's...

Interesting that the GT Offense played everyone on thier schedule as well as a bowl game I would imagine .... if the Chop block was illegal the way they are doing it, wouldn't you think that EVERYBODY would have been talking about it across the country ?

 

[dvrexpander]

Interesting that the GT Offense played everyone on thier schedule as well as a bowl game I would imagine .... if the Chop block was illegal the way they are doing it, wouldn't you think that EVERYBODY would have been talking about it across the country ?

It was brought up a bunch last year..

Georgia Tech’s cut blocks butcher opponents | GazetteOnline.com

Chop blocks have Hokies, Yellow Jackets hopping mad | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

Virginia Tech alleges illegal GT blocks - ACC Blog - ESPN

As wide receivers develop, Boone's role diminishes | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

That's just a few... alot more showed up on google when I searched.

This is something I hope really keeps those blocks from happening..players can get really hurt.

Language changes in blocking rules could affect Georgia Tech’s option - Georgia Tech - Macon.com

The key change is that a player must be facing north-south on a crack back block,” ACC officials coordinator Doug Rhoads said at last weekend’s ACC Kickoff. “The blocker’s body must be on line perpendicular to the block.”
That sentiment has always been in the rule book, but enforcement likely will be more specifically targeted toward making sure that low-diving blockers approach their defensive targets from the front and not attempting low blocks to the side or behind them.

But in a media seminar on officiating at the ACC Kickoff in Greensboro, N.C., Rhoads showed video of a Georgia Tech player committing — what the rules would now consider — a crack back block on a Virginia Tech player in last year’s game. The replay appeared to show the running back throwing his body back toward the line of scrimmage, to the side of the defender. He was not north-south.

 

[Jimbo]

It was brought up a bunch last year..

Georgia Tech’s cut blocks butcher opponents | GazetteOnline.com

Chop blocks have Hokies, Yellow Jackets hopping mad | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

Virginia Tech alleges illegal GT blocks - ACC Blog - ESPN

As wide receivers develop, Boone's role diminishes | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

That's just a few... alot more showed up on google when I searched.

This is something I hope really keeps those blocks from happening..players can get really hurt.

Language changes in blocking rules could affect Georgia Tech’s option - Georgia Tech - Macon.com

Shouldn't someone be telling them that this CANNOT be done, if they are that bad ?

I do remember hearing about it, but it was strictly in conference, that I remember.