I'm sitting here with a full page ad from the newspaper from godish.com that is advertising the Top 120 package that INCLUDES the hopper DVR, smart Voice remote, HD programing, Includes one tv, Add more for $5.00 each and 190 channels with locals for $59.99. This is for new customers but according to a link in the forum, existing customers should be able to get it. Ive even had Teresa on the Internet chat line tell me I should be able to get it. I have spent close to an hour on each of two calls to the CSR's and they assure me that the price is for programming only. NOT equipment. But I can scan this ad if you want it but it says in one inch letters : Its all Included! Also offering a $100.00 gift card as well. Dish says absolutely not! However, I have gotten two different pricing on the same package from two different CSR's. The last one telling me she had been there 10 years and she knew what she was doing... What happened to a company that can give you the same price time after time? I have been a Dish customer for about 30 years and was a distributor when EchoStar first launched the satellite. I can go to Direct TV as a new customer and get the equipment for free. Dish wants to tell me "yeah but after the promotion is over they will raise the price". You don't think that is what Dish is doing to me right now?? I'm tired of paying $130 a month for television. Can you tell me what is going on? If not, I'm switching to Direct.