UPDATE! 12-21-05 Dish Transmitting CBS-E HD in 1440x1080i

[Anole]

data rate matters just as much

I read through the whole thread, and the only one who came close to what I'm about to mention was nuts4scuba, above.

Ever notice the difference in quality between some channels in SD and others?
Ever see the bitching posted about locals sucking in SD?
They're all in 544x480, but some get a higher data (bit) rate.

I record a few (standard def) shows a week and have noticed the data rate varies from 1.9 megabits per second to 2.5 or more.
I've seen as high as three megabits, but since I don't keep logs, I can't swear where that was.
Generally, Discovery or Science channels (which I seem to record) will have 2.5mb rates.
They pop a lot better, too.

The point is, all this discussion of HD formats may be rendered moot by:
1). better or poorer format converters (as mentioned)
2). the chosen transmission data rate for a show/channel

 

[dfergie]

Chargers / Colts game looks pretty good on West feed...(East is SD Miami / Jets)

 

[Stargazer]

Hmm, I have not been over there that often for at least the past two or three months because the posts become redundant over here and there and there is more activity over here. Things here are more the way I like them in which was the way things were originally only better. It's got more of a personal touch here but over there it seems more corporate or something. Also my membership is lifetime here but not over there.

Maybe the data rate varies because of the activity on the channel. I know that they will put more bitrates to the channels that have sports. Don't they vary due to that to save bandwidth?

 

[HokieEngineer]

The three locals on one TP seem to hover around 10.5-12mbit/s depending on whats showing. The statmux'ers are supposed to help fairly divide the bandwidth. Fox, on its own TP (19), gets a consistent 14.5Mbit/s.

The test fox on 129 shares the TP with espn2hd, but those are the only channels on that TP. Fox is around 14.5Mbit/s there as well, with espn2hd getting a juicy 17.5Mbit/s. Too bad all the HD channels cant get that kind of bandwidth.

Seems the statmux'ers are doing their job, cbs-e is around 10Mbit/s, but its showing the jets game in SD. Testing CBS-W on 129 is around 13.5Mbit/s, presumably showing the Colts game in HD.

 

[dfergie]

Getting some freezing on CBS west...switching to D* version to see if its a network thing...

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

F&*!'in DBStalk , God I hate that place, what a smart ass reply I got(from a moderator taking my words out of context) when reporting this news

I am done with corporate DBSTalk

Hey don't pick on James, he is our #1 assit to SatelliteGuys!

In fact just in the last week his actions caused over 1,000 folks to become new SatelliteGuys Members.

People are starting to learn that most everything that comes out of his mouth is Bullsh!t, its funny to see him spot of on topics where he has no idea what he is talking about.

And people are taking notice of him twisting others words around trying to make him look like a genius.

This is why in our pub area he is known as Capt. 2 Cents, because no matter what the topic there he ALWAYS adds his 2 cents.

So leave the poor guy alone, he is doing a great job of bringing new members to us.

 

[Gary Murrell]

You the man Scott

-Gary

 

[jmcgee_jr]

LMAO scott I damn neared pissed my pants

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

You know thinking more about it...

Iceberg, give me back the SatelliteGuys of the Year award, I am going to send it to JL instead, (Just kidding)

 

[JamesJ]

congrats JL on satguy of the year!!! wait what am I saying I dont think that award should be treated like that, poor thing, it will be knee deep in the crap floating around his house

 

[hancox]

You know thinking more about it...

Iceberg, give me back the SatelliteGuys of the Year award, I am going to send it to JL instead, (Just kidding)

Now I'M ABOUT TO PISS MY PANTS. LOL :devil:

 

[goaliebob99]

You know thinking more about it...

Iceberg, give me back the SatelliteGuys of the Year award, I am going to send it to JL instead, (Just kidding)

HELL NO SCOTT ... I'll make sure that he doesnt get it ... one way or another :neener

 

[Stargazer]

That is the joke of the year!!!

 

[HokieEngineer]

CBS-E HD still in 720p. No change to format or data rates can be seen.

 

[BrettTRay]

God I wish Dish would get their sh*t together and quit nickel and dimeing us to death with these HD channels.

 

[JamesJ]

looks like not good news, as they are putting 3 voom per transponder....sorry guys this isnt going our way it looks like!

 

[Reefer123]

I hope their solution was "ok we will give them 1920x1080 at the lowest bitrate possible"

 

[SatinKzo]

I hope their solution was "ok we will give them 1920x1080 at the lowest bitrate possible"

Are you trolling or did you forget the word "not"?

 

[Reefer123]

Ooops...Thanks for catching that. There definately should be a NOT in that sentence. Seeing as I am a E* subscriber that would make me quite unhappy if that was the so-called solution.

 

[goaliebob99]

you guys are forgetting that they were at 3 per tp at a very good bitrate prior to this hole feasco... so 3 per tp really doesnt mean that were doomed to get a low bit rate but the way E* is going...