Pryor leaving OSU

I think I like what the NFL is doing here. Maybe this is a step towards college and pro sports working together in this aspect.

I agree I think this is a good idea, but I can't see how this would hold up in court. The NFL has no jurisdiction here whatsoever.

Also, someone has to explain to me how Pete Carroll can absolutely bury USC, escape to Seattle like a rat, and not face the same kind of punishment Pryor is facing. If it's good for players, it's good for coaches.


Sandra
 
I agree I think this is a good idea, but I can't see how this would hold up in court. The NFL has no jurisdiction here whatsoever.
You don't think they made a "deal" with Pryor and his attorney ? It wouldn't surprise me.....
Also, someone has to explain to me how Pete Carroll can absolutely bury USC, escape to Seattle like a rat, and not face the same kind of punishment Pryor is facing. If it's good for players, it's good for coaches.
Who says it won't apply to coaches -- from here on out ? Using your logic, you can't create any NEW rules because prior events aren't impacted.
 
I agree I think this is a good idea, but I can't see how this would hold up in court. The NFL has no jurisdiction here whatsoever.

Also, someone has to explain to me how Pete Carroll can absolutely bury USC, escape to Seattle like a rat, and not face the same kind of punishment Pryor is facing. If it's good for players, it's good for coaches.


Sandra

The suspension was for making “decisions that undermine the integrity of the eligibility rules for the NFL Draft.” The NFLPA is going along with it and Pryor has accepted it.

Pryor is having a pro day on Saturday.
 
Who was the running back during the 90's who played for Oklahoma State,left after his junior year,& was drafted by the Detroit Lions? I'm having a major brain fart trying to remember his name. Wasn't he a supplemental draft pick? Barry Sanders,wasn't he in the supplemental draft or was it the regular draft?
 
The suspension was for making “decisions that undermine the integrity of the eligibility rules for the NFL Draft.” The NFLPA is going along with it and Pryor has accepted it.

Pryor is having a pro day on Saturday.
Pryor probably accepted it as a condition of getting into the supplemental draft.

But Sandra is right. If he had fought it, the courts would have tossed the suspension on anti-trust grounds.
The NFL & NCAA are seperate organizations. Colluding together to stop someone from applying their trade easily runs afoul of the law.
 
Pryor probably accepted it as a condition of getting into the supplemental draft.

But Sandra is right. If he had fought it, the courts would have tossed the suspension on anti-trust grounds.
The NFL & NCAA are seperate organizations. Colluding together to stop someone from applying their trade easily runs afoul of the law.

Case is weak at best, nothing easy about it. Events were sequential, I'd agree with you if he was deciding between the NCAA and NFL to 'apply his trader', but he is not. If not for this exception then he should have had to wait until April 2012 draft.

Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk
 
IMHO, the NFL is to be praised for its actions in punishing NCAA cheats. It should have done so to Carrol, of course, as well. The NCAA should simply announce that anybody who violates NCAA rules in the future, be he a coach, is banned for five years, and be he a player, for one. No exceptions, and the CFL should join in as well.
 
The suspension was for making “decisions that undermine the integrity of the eligibility rules for the NFL Draft.” The NFLPA is going along with it and Pryor has accepted it.

Pryor is having a pro day on Saturday.

Some one asked earlier on the NFL Network, what exactly did Pryor do to Undermine the NFL ?
I was working , so I never heard.
 
IMHO, the NFL is to be praised for its actions in punishing NCAA cheats. It should have done so to Carrol, of course, as well. The NCAA should simply announce that anybody who violates NCAA rules in the future, be he a coach, is banned for five years, and be he a player, for one. No exceptions, and the CFL should join in as well.
The NCAA can ban a coach with a show cause.

But the NFL can not honor that and prevent a team from hiring that coach, as it would run afoul of anti-trust laws.
 
Who was the running back during the 90's who played for Oklahoma State,left after his junior year,& was drafted by the Detroit Lions? I'm having a major brain fart trying to remember his name. Wasn't he a supplemental draft pick? Barry Sanders,wasn't he in the supplemental draft or was it the regular draft?

Barry was in the regular draft, both Barry and Dieon Sanders came out that year. ( top 5 both , I think)
 
Who was the running back during the 90's who played for Oklahoma State,left after his junior year,& was drafted by the Detroit Lions? I'm having a major brain fart trying to remember his name. Wasn't he a supplemental draft pick? Barry Sanders,wasn't he in the supplemental draft or was it the regular draft?

Are you thinking of Marcus Depree?
 
The NCAA can ban a coach with a show cause.

But the NFL can not honor that and prevent a team from hiring that coach, as it would run afoul of anti-trust laws.

I am sure legally that might be difficult for the NFL, NCAA, and other professional football leagues to "collude" in that manner. But, just because you might have been a great college football player or coach do you have a fundamental right to play or coach football for a living? If not, do you have legal recourse if you are not hired or signed by an NFL team regardless of the reason?
 
Pryor probably accepted it as a condition of getting into the supplemental draft.

Exactly. The NFL said 'Listen Terrell, we'll let you into the supplemental, but don't fight us on the five game ban'. Pryor, of course, agreed.

If Pryor had committed an actual crime like weapons or assault, sexual battery, etc., I could understand the NFL jumping in. Pryor did not do that...he broke NCAA rules, which is out of the NFL's jurisdiction.

As I said I think it's a wonderful idea...but it puts the NFL on a very slippery slope when the next coach blows up a program and flees to the NFL. Anything short of suspending that coach would be hypocritical.


Sandra
 
Pryor's lawyer plans to appeal QB's five-game suspension
NFL.com Wire Reports
Published: Aug. 19, 2011 at 10:10 a.m. Updated: Aug. 19, 2011 at 11:55 a.m.


One day after the NFL announced that Terrelle Pryor would be eligible for its supplemental draft, but won't be allowed to practice for the team that selects him until Week 6, his lawyer said Friday they planned to appeal the suspension.

Pryor's camp initially said that they would not appeal the decision, but David Cornwell, Pryor's attorney, told ESPN Radio Friday morning that he was "not pleased" with the decision and planned to fight it.

"(Commissioner Roger Goodell) indicated that we have the right to appeal within three days after Terrelle signs an NFL contract, and given some of the developments -- both in reaching the decision and comments out of the (NFL Players Association) regarding the decision -- I think it's likely that we will file an appeal, and give the Players Association an opportunity to make its objections to this on the record," Cornwell said.

Goodell and NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith worked together on the decision, according to Pryor's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, who originally backed the deal Thursday.

The NFL hopes the suspension will dissuade future college players who run afoul of the NCAA from trying to use the NFL as a means of escaping punishment.

Citing a union source, NFL Network's Albert Breer reported the NFLPA was prepared to fight any suspension levied on Pryor that related to his actions as a collegian.

One of the points of contention during negotiations for a new NFL labor agreement was the authority given to Goodell to hand out punishment. In the end, there were no changes to Goodell's position, but his decision to suspend Pryor worried players.

"I know players are concerned about the message this sends," said Cleveland Browns linebacker Scott Fujita, a member of the players' executive committee. "Granted, making this 'deal' was an individual decision made by a player with counsel from his agent and lawyer. They have every right to make whatever deal they want for his personal future. That being said, the general concern now is how far into Pandora's box this may go."

The supplemental draft was supposed to be held Wednesday, and Pryor's name wasn't on the NFL's initial list of players. But it was postponed a few days, and Pryor's name showed up Thursday.

If he hadn't been ruled eligible, Pryor would have had to wait until next April for the 2012 NFL Draft.

Regarded as the nation's top quarterback recruit coming out of high school, Pryor led Ohio State to an 8-1 record as a starter and was the Big Ten Conference's freshman of the year in 2008. He took the Buckeyes to the Big Ten title the following season and a victory in the Rose Bowl. He was named the game's MVP after Ohio State beat Oregon 26-17.

Pryor had his best season statistically as a junior in 2010, throwing for 2,772 yards and 27 touchdowns with 11 interceptions. He also ran for 754 yards and four scores while helping the Buckeyes win the Sugar Bowl.

Shortly before the game, it was revealed that Pryor and other players traded Buckeyes memorabilia for cash and discounted tattoos. In the following months, it became clear that coach Jim Tressel knew about the improper benefits in the spring of 2010 but didn't inform his bosses, as was required under his contract and NCAA rules. Tressel was forced out of his job May 30, and Pryor left Ohio State soon after.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


=================

Why bother, as someone said, he won't be playing in those 5 games anyway.

He should be happy he doesn't have to wait until next April.
 
I think it would be funny -- and not surprising given the recent info about Goodell steering Michael Vick to the Eagles -- if Goodell, ummm, "convinced" all of the teams to simply NOT draft him after he drops the 5-game suspension.

I still say, as I did up ^ above ^, that Pryor and his 'team' made a deal with Goodell and this is just a "fake" fight given the controversy that's come about since the announcement.
 
I am sure legally that might be difficult for the NFL, NCAA, and other professional football leagues to "collude" in that manner. But, just because you might have been a great college football player or coach do you have a fundamental right to play or coach football for a living? If not, do you have legal recourse if you are not hired or signed by an NFL team regardless of the reason?
Individual teams do no have to hire that player/coach. But if the league were to collude with all the teams to prevent him from being hired, then it's an open and shut anti-trust violation.

So if a team owner wants to hire that player/coach, then the league has no legal bearing to stop them.

And if the NFL were to put in a rule that prevents someone under NCAA sanction from being hired, again it would violate anti-trust law.
 
I think it would be funny -- and not surprising given the recent info about Goodell steering Michael Vick to the Eagles -- if Goodell, ummm, "convinced" all of the teams to simply NOT draft him after he drops the 5-game suspension.
If he's not drafted, then he's automatically a free agent, and any team can sign him without losing a draft selection.
 

MLB 2011 Season

Are you ready for some football? ESPN says...no

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Total: 0, Members: 0, Guests: 0)

Who Read This Thread (Total Members: 1)

Latest posts