NFL 2009-10 Season

His agent and the team are denying the threat was made, just hours after his cousin/advisor confirmed the threat of holding out all season had been communicated to the team to ESPN. Crabtree wants to be paid as if he were picked by Al Davis, because that's where the media says he should have been picked. No joke. Here's another article about it - http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=dw-michaelcrabtree080609&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

The Patriots acquired Derrick Burgess from the Raiders for "undisclosed draft considerations".
 
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Tell him.......TAKE THAT SEAT!!!!!

i wouldn't pay him either. enough with this BS! any chance of maybe a rookie salary cap for next season? if so that will be hilarious if this idiot goes back into the draft :rolleyes:
 
His agent and the team are denying the threat was made, just hours after his cousin/advisor confirmed the threat of holding out all season had been communicated to the team to ESPN. Crabtree wants to be paid as if he were picked by Al Davis, because that's where the media says he should have been picked. No joke. Here's another article about it - 49ers' Crabtree conducts convoluted holdout - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

The Patriots acquired Derrick Burgess from the Raiders for "undisclosed draft considerations".

meStevo, you've become quite the man with all these updates. thanks! keep it up:up
 
It's mostly PFT ripoffs, but some from other places too. I'd cite it all as I post, but I usually do it from work and so I try and quickly post an update or two when i see it on an RSS feed.

Takes a little effort to keep things on football sometimes too ;) so i love me some football news.
 
His agent and the team are denying the threat was made, just hours after his cousin/advisor confirmed the threat of holding out all season had been communicated to the team to ESPN. Crabtree wants to be paid as if he were picked by Al Davis, because that's where the media says he should have been picked. No joke. Here's another article about it - 49ers' Crabtree conducts convoluted holdout - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

The Patriots acquired Derrick Burgess from the Raiders for "undisclosed draft considerations".

And if the Raiders would have drafted him, he would have bitched because the Seahawks were rumored to want him too and would have demanded top 5 money....:rolleyes:

GLAD as hell they didn't draft that high maintenance diva!
 
And if the Raiders would have drafted him, he would have bitched because the Seahawks were rumored to want him too and would have demanded top 5 money....:rolleyes:

GLAD as hell they didn't draft that high maintenance diva!

Who was the other stud rec'r from the Big 8 and where did he go in the draft ?
 
Off to Lou Groza Blvd. in Berea for Browns Training Camp! I'll report back this afternoon on some insider info and a scouting report on what I see at camp....
 
His agent and the team are denying the threat was made, just hours after his cousin/advisor confirmed the threat of holding out all season had been communicated to the team to ESPN. Crabtree wants to be paid as if he were picked by Al Davis, because that's where the media says he should have been picked. No joke. Here's another article about it - 49ers' Crabtree conducts convoluted holdout - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

The Patriots acquired Derrick Burgess from the Raiders for "undisclosed draft considerations".
This is just crazy. Just think that neither of the 2 top stars from Texas Tech may be playing in the NFL this season.
 
It is me, or is New England Patriots the re-incarnation of the Raiders of old that would take everyone's rejected players that supposedly have nothing left...and WIN with those players...??!! I hate Belli-jerk, but he know how to win and make a program work and get the max out of each and every single player.
 
It is me, or is New England Patriots the re-incarnation of the Raiders of old that would take everyone's rejected players that supposedly have nothing left...and WIN with those players...??!! I hate Belli-jerk, but he know how to win and make a program work and get the max out of each and every single player.
I think the deal with Oakland to get Randy Moss for a 4th round pick may go down as one the most lopsided trades ever.
 
I think the deal with Oakland to get Randy Moss for a 4th round pick may go down as one the most lopsided trades ever.

It was, but the way he played in Oakland and the complete lack of effort on his part....they Raiders were dying to get rid of him. Tell me something, how many teams wanted him??!! VERY little to none...I mean no one else would touche him for MORE than a #4 draft pic...
 
Notes from Browns Training Camp

Off to Lou Groza Blvd. in Berea for Browns Training Camp! I'll report back this afternoon on some insider info and a scouting report on what I see at camp....

-Browns Training Camp takes place in the neighborhood of Berea, which is a suburb of Cleveland. The facility is adjacent to a nearby college (Baldwin-Wallace), where Jim Tressel went. Walking down the neighborhood street to get to camp, the street leading to the entrance has the road hash marks colored in orange, brown and white stripes in honor of the Browns.

-Upon walking through the gates promptly at 8:45am, fans were awoken to the loud tune of Ram Jam's- "Black Betty" thumping from giant speakers setup throughout the field of practice. This was certainly different from anything I've seen/heard before from past regimes and I've been coming to Browns Training Camp every year since 1999.

-Bringing music to camp was Mangini's idea. He uses hand signals to tell the AV guy to start, stop and change the tunes. He says it creates a loudness that simulates game day atmospheres with loud crowd noise. Several times, Mangini stopped or suddenly began the music just before a QB would snap the ball during a drill. One of these times it led to a Derek Anderson false start. The sudden music must've flustered him. Throughout time, Mangini is hoping for more focus.

-One of my favorite parts of camp was when the one-on-one pass rush drill by various Browns DE/DT's vs. our Offensive Linemen. Our O-Line is certainly our best asset. OT-Ryan Tucker, was back in camp after being out all of last year with an injury. Tuck is without a doubt one of the biggest and most scary guys I've ever seen in my life. When a DT went against Tuck, he stood his defender straight up in his tracks. Wow! Welcome back Tuck!

-Shawn Rogers supposedly lost 40lbs in the offseason, but he's still the biggest dude I've ever witnessed in person.

-Speaking of weight, I now understand where Salsa got Rob Ryan's nickname, "fat tub o goo". Dude has the biggest beer gut ever! Oh, we also overheard him cussing out his defensive squad after one drill. I like his fire!

-The QB competition is still at a dead heat. Neither Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson stood out from one another. Both looked perfectly capable of running an NFL offense.

-Speaking of the two QB's, if Quinn doesn't win the starting position, there is going to be a lot of heartbroken teenage girls in this town. Everytime BQ walked by the Quinn cheering section, his teenage fans shreeked in unison "BRAAAAAADDDDYYYY"!!!!

-Derek Anderson looked especially loose. I saw him on the sidelines during several occasions playing "air-drums" to Van Hallen. Other times, he was dancing to Kenny Chesney. It's one thing to stay loose during camp and another thing to remain loose and focused in gameday pressure situations. The word is still out on DA's mental toughness.

-Braylon is back to practice and has caught everything thrown his way so far. Let's hope he can shake the case of "dropsies" from last year. Josh Cribbs is lining up as receiver an awful lot. He may split time between returning kicks and lining up more as WR this year. Brian Robiskie and Mohamed Massaquoi are in a dead heat for the #2 WR. If anything, I think Massaquoi has the slight edge. He's having a good camp.

-Another player that is impressing in camp is RB James Davis from Clemson. The Browns picked him up in the 6th round and is looking like a steal so far. He may very well be Jamal Lewis' backup to start the season.

-I also noticed that Mangini had players hitting and certainly didn't shy away from conducting a high contact practice. This is a different approach to Romeo Crennel's no contact, country club type training camps.

-Mangini employs real NFL Referees to help during practice. They're instructed to blow the whistle and instruct players/coaches when and what pentalty each player is committing and how to correct it.

-Players who commit penalties, turnovers, etc. have to run laps around the practice field and right in front of the fans. Brady Quinn did a lap today. Even the Mighty Quinn isn't immune to the disciplinarian wrath of Coach Mangini!! (See attached pic...)

-If anything, all of these techniques that Mangini is instilling in his players should result in a tougher, more disciplined, smarter bunch. The talent will come through the years, but discipline is being taught now and I truly think this is a welcome approach.

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Very weird. The Browns lost a huge offensive weapon and he will be missed.
How many games did he actually play for you guys? Seems like you freed up some cap space that would have been wasted on a guy who spends at least 10 games a year on the IR.
 
-Browns Training Camp takes place in the neighborhood of Berea, which is a suburb of Cleveland. The facility is adjacent to a nearby college (Baldwin-Wallace), where Jim Tressel went. Walking down the neighborhood street to get to camp, the street leading to the entrance has the road hash marks colored in orange, brown and white stripes in honor of the Browns.

-Upon walking through the gates promptly at 8:45am, fans were awoken to the loud tune of Ram Jam's- "Black Betty" thumping from giant speakers setup throughout the field of practice. This was certainly different from anything I've seen/heard before from past regimes and I've been coming to Browns Training Camp every year since 1999.

-Bringing music to camp was Mangini's idea. He uses hand signals to tell the AV guy to start, stop and change the tunes. He says it creates a loudness that simulates game day atmospheres with loud crowd noise. Several times, Mangini stopped or suddenly began the music just before a QB would snap the ball during a drill. One of these times it led to a Derek Anderson false start. The sudden music must've flustered him. Throughout time, Mangini is hoping for more focus.

-One of my favorite parts of camp was when the one-on-one pass rush drill by various Browns DE/DT's vs. our Offensive Linemen. Our O-Line is certainly our best asset. OT-Ryan Tucker, was back in camp after being out all of last year with an injury. Tuck is without a doubt one of the biggest and most scary guys I've ever seen in my life. When a DT went against Tuck, he stood his defender straight up in his tracks. Wow! Welcome back Tuck!

-Shawn Rogers supposedly lost 40lbs in the offseason, but he's still the biggest dude I've ever witnessed in person.

-Speaking of weight, I now understand where Salsa got Rob Ryan's nickname, "fat tub o goo". Dude has the biggest beer gut ever! Oh, we also overheard him cussing out his defensive squad after one drill. I like his fire!

-The QB competition is still at a dead heat. Neither Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson stood out from one another. Both looked perfectly capable of running an NFL offense.

-Speaking of the two QB's, if Quinn doesn't win the starting position, there is going to be a lot of heartbroken teenage girls in this town. Everytime BQ walked by the Quinn cheering section, his teenage fans shreeked in unison "BRAAAAAADDDDYYYY"!!!!

-Derek Anderson looked especially loose. I saw him on the sidelines during several occasions playing "air-drums" to Van Hallen. Other times, he was dancing to Kenny Chesney. It's one thing to stay loose during camp and another thing to remain loose and focused in gameday pressure situations. The word is still out on DA's mental toughness.

-Braylon is back to practice and has caught everything thrown his way so far. Let's hope he can shake the case of "dropsies" from last year. Josh Cribbs is lining up as receiver an awful lot. He may split time between returning kicks and lining up more as WR this year. Brian Robiskie and Mohamed Massaquoi are in a dead heat for the #2 WR. If anything, I think Massaquoi has the slight edge. He's having a good camp.

-Another player that is impressing in camp is RB James Davis from Clemson. The Browns picked him up in the 6th round and is looking like a steal so far. He may very well be Jamal Lewis' backup to start the season.

-I also noticed that Mangini had players hitting and certainly didn't shy away from conducting a high contact practice. This is a different approach to Romeo Crennel's no contact, country club type training camps.

-Mangini employs real NFL Referees to help during practice. They're instructed to blow the whistle and instruct players/coaches when and what pentalty each player is committing and how to correct it.

-Players who commit penalties, turnovers, etc. have to run laps around the practice field and right in front of the fans. Brady Quinn did a lap today. Even the Mighty Quinn isn't immune to the disciplinarian wrath of Coach Mangini!! (See attached pic...)

-If anything, all of these techniques that Mangini is instilling in his players should result in a tougher, more disciplined, smarter bunch. The talent will come through the years, but discipline is being taught now and I truly think this is a welcome approach.

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Sounds like you had a good time, Matt! :up

I'm hoping to get down to Foxboro next Wed. to check out the Pats.
 
Sounds like they had a lot of Kool-Aid on hand ;)

Winslow has been in the news if you guys missed it btw, his coach publicly called him out about controlling his emotions - Tampa Bay Buccaneers tight end Kellen Winslow giving coach Raheem Morris an 'idea of the problems he's had.'

Personally, from reading that article, it makes it sound like he's an 8 year old. When things are good, they're great, it's all smiles and high fives, when things aren't, it's time to start crying until they are. When you grow up the extremes become more controlled and less exaggerated... sounds like he's not there yet.
 
How many games did he actually play for you guys? Seems like you freed up some cap space that would have been wasted on a guy who spends at least 10 games a year on the IR.

He was injured a lot. Unfortunately a lot of them were related to the injury sustained in that motorcycle accident. Multiple surgeries and staph infections followed.

He was a tremendous talent, but for the majority of his career, we'll be left wondering how good he could've been if he was healthy.

Couple his injuries, the amount of money he'd demand in free agency and his outspoken personality and he just didn't fit the mold of player that Mangini is trying to build around here.
 

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