NFL 2009-10 Season

[salsadancer7]

i hear ya and yes until now caldwell had done everything right. especially being a rookie head coach. i hope you're right. but i think you would agree that they better at least make it to the super bowl because if not they will question his decision on DEC 27th. right or wrong you know that's whats going to happen. it would be the same if he would've gone for 16-0 and they lose in the playoffs,he would be criticized for playing the starters when it wasn't needed. wouldn't want to be in his shoes

I am confussed...what does sitting his team in th 15th game of the season have to do with possibly not making the Super Bowl? The objective is to try to get the highest seed possible in the playoffs and win. Trying to go undefeated in the regular season will not dampen your chances to win a Super Bowl....an injury will.

 

[HD MM]

Noooo.....again, I am looking at it as a CHAMPIONSHIP side to it. You do NOT need to go undefeated to win a championship. You are NOT assurred a championship by going undefeated. By playing you starters when you have ALREADY locked up homefield throughout, you take the chance of an injury to a star or franchise player....either one that can kill your chance of winning the champsionship or worse yet....career threating. Do you wanna take that kinda chance just because you wanna go undefeated??!! Really..... I wanna win MULTIPLE championships....not just one.

Michael Irvin disagrees.

Which begs the question. Would you rather have a or b:

a) On 1 Championship Team that went a perfect 19-0 and Won the Super Bowl or...

b) On 3 Super Bowl Teams without perfect regular season records

 

[cosmo_kramer]

By playing you starters when you have ALREADY locked up homefield throughout, you take the chance of an injury to a star or franchise player....either one that can kill your chance of winning the champsionship or worse yet....career threating. Do you wanna take that kinda chance just because you wanna go undefeated??!! Really..... I wanna win MULTIPLE championships....not just one.

If your team is playing with that stuff in the back of their minds, you're in trouble. It will be interesting to see if a team that had won 23 in a row still has the killer instinct, or not....

 

[Rey]

I am confussed...what does sitting his team in th 15th game of the season have to do with possibly not making the Super Bowl? The objective is to try to get the highest seed possible in the playoffs and win. Trying to go undefeated in the regular season will not dampen your chances to win a Super Bowl....an injury will.

its just a reason some will look at if they do fail in the playoffs

 

[HD MM]

What will be interesting is to see what happens in next Sunday nights' game.

If the Patriots beat the Texans in the early game they will, I believe, lock up the #3 seed. This will give the Bengals the #4 seed with nothing to play for in the Sunday night game against the Jets. Do the Bengals rest there players ala the Colts and essentially allow the Jets into the playoffs?

 

[meStevo]

What will be interesting is to see what happens in next Sunday nights' game.

If the Patriots beat the Texans in the early game they will, I believe, lock up the #3 seed. This will give the Bengals the #4 seed with nothing to play for in the Sunday night game against the Jets. Do the Bengals rest there players ala the Colts and essentially allow the Jets into the playoffs?

Interesting posts like this getting swallowed by this Manning argument, time for a playoffs thread.

 

[BillD1984]

Guys,
I'm with Salsa on this one.

I've been to four Pats games at Gillette since their 16-0 season in '07. On one end of the stadium are the championship banners of '01, '03 and '04, and on the opposite end of the stadium is the '07 16-0 banner. Honestly, I want them to rip that one down!

I would be lying if I said I didn't want the Pats to go for it in '07, but now in retrospect, I wish they lost one game along the way. I'm not saying the pressure was the reason why they lost to the Giants, but you never know.

I still support Caldwell's decision. He's looking at the big picture.

BTW, if the Colts are hoisting the Lombardi Trophy on Feb. 7, will anyone curse Caldwell for yesterday?? I CERTAINLY HOPE NOT!

 

[meStevo]

If they win their playoff games in blowouts, I believe there'd be room to complain, yeah.

I don't really care either way though, I'm just personally disappointed for the guys that wanted to go for it. I understand the bigger picture, doesn't dull the disappointment. I don't see them stopping the Chargers either way is probably part of it.

 

[Rey]

Guys,
I'm with Salsa on this one.

I've been to four Pats games at Gillette since their 16-0 season in '07. On one end of the stadium are the championship banners of '01, '03 and '04, and on the opposite end of the stadium is the '07 16-0 banner. Honestly, I want them to rip that one down!

I would be lying if I said I didn't want the Pats to go for it in '07, but now in retrospect, I wish they lost one game along the way. I'm not saying the pressure was the reason why they lost to the Giants, but you never know.

I still support Caldwell's decision. He's looking at the big picture.

BTW, if the Colts are hoisting the Lombardi Trophy on Feb. 7, will anyone curse Caldwell for yesterday?? I CERTAINLY HOPE NOT!

i wont

 

[HD MM]

What about the fans?

In this downtrodden economy we currently find ourselves in, can you imagine being the Colt fan that managed to scrounge up enough money to see your favorite team play in person for one single game of this year. Then, one by one, starters are being yanked and the product on the field isn't worth the price of admission?

What the Colts did yesterday is give the Jets a win. By doing so, it has major implications for the playoff race and the revenues of other teams.

 

[meStevo]

Good point, but I'd expect there to be a little buyer beware, they were booing for good reason and they said they would do this. Nobody wanted to believe them is all.

 

[HD MM]

What should the Colts do next week, show up and forfeit? After all, they do have another regular season game left.

 

[Rey]

What should the Colts do next week, show up and forfeit? After all, they do have another regular season game left.

i don't see why they wouldn't do that. might as well

 

[meStevo]

They need a solid half from their starters going into the bye, at least. Not 15 or whatever points over 3 quarters.

 

[HD MM]

i don't see why they wouldn't do that. might as well

at least it will save everyone time and money.

 

[cosmo_kramer]

I would be lying if I said I didn't want the Pats to go for it in '07, but now in retrospect, I wish they lost one game along the way. I'm not saying the pressure was the reason why they lost to the Giants, but you never know.

I still support Caldwell's decision. He's looking at the big picture.

Sorry Bill, but treating the last two regular season games like exhibition games is not going to benefit the team down the stretch.

I could understand sitting Manning at that point of the game with either a big lead (even if the Jets managed a huge comeback) or a big deficit. But what, it was a five point margin??

As for the big picture, time will tell and Colts fans will look to yesterday as a possible cause if they don't win it all, especially if it's another first round knockout.

 

[BillD1984]

What the Colts did yesterday is give the Jets a win. By doing so, it has major implications for the playoff race and the revenues of other teams.

But by virtue of their record, the Colts have the right to play that however they wanted to. It's these other teams problem that they're on the playoff bubble.....not the Colts. The Colts already earned their way into the playoffs.

I remember last year, many Pats fans were bitching and moaning about the Jets (and Favre) "lying down like a dog" against the Dolphins in the last game of the season. A Jets win would have given the Pats the division title, but the Dolphins went into the Meadowlands and blew out the Jets (who were eliminated earlier that day).

Bottom line was this: the Pats didn't do ENOUGH to earn their way into the playoffs, just like this year no team should have a problem with how the Colts played things yesterday.

 

[BillD1984]

Sorry Bill, but treating the last two regular season games like exhibition games is not going to benefit the team down the stretch.

I could understand sitting Manning at that point of the game with either a big lead (even if the Jets managed a huge comeback) or a big deficit. But what, it was a five point margin??

As for the big picture, time will tell and Colts fans will look to yesterday as a possible cause if they don't win it all, especially if it's another first round knockout.

And I get the "rust factor" arguement, I really do.

But, having lived through this just two years ago, "going for it" isn't what it's cracked up to be.

 

[cosmo_kramer]

After yesterday's performance I would certainly hope so.....

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[Hart5150]

The Colts owe nothing to no one. All it takes is ONE HIT to Manning and Super Bowl chances are HISTORY!!! The ONLY objective is to win the Super Bowl. I would MUCH rather did what they did yesterday than take a chance of getting Peyton Manning injured.

...Having secure the home field THROUGHTOUT the playoffs, they did the right thing! Going undefeated is an extra cherry on the sundae.

He could of been hurt in the 1st quarter, the first game, the next play or in the pre-season.

If you are always afraid of injury than don't play, coach or watch football, take up bowling.

Jim Caldwell is a coward.