NFL 2009-10 Season
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Can you imagine the scenario for either of them to make the playoffs would be ?
It's bad enough I still don't know for sure what has to happen for the Steeler's to make it ....... isn't the last few weeks of the NFL season great !
If there are 3 or more teams tied, head to head is thrown out, so that wouldn't matter that the Ravens or Steelers beat Broncos. It's so bizarre!
No, the 3-way tie at 9-7 puts the Jets at number one, then it's down to two teams with Baltimore and the Broncos, and the Broncos loss to them eliminates them from the playoffs.
The head to head record only matters in a mulit-team tie if a team beat all of the others they are also tied with. Once the Jets win the tie, it is only 2 teams, and then head to head is valid.
The head to head record only matters in a mulit-team tie if a team beat all of the others they are also tied with. Once the Jets win the tie, it is only 2 teams, and then head to head is valid.
No. that's not the way it works.
If Broncos win and Pitt or Balt lose, they are in. If Pitt and Balt win, and Jets ot Texans win, they are in. There is no head to head if there are 3 or more teams tied, because not all teams played each other, so it's thrown out.
This is what the Broncos postgame show is reporting.
If Broncos win and Pitt or Balt lose, they are in. If Pitt and Balt win, and Jets ot Texans win, they are in. There is no head to head if there are 3 or more teams tied, because not all teams played each other, so it's thrown out.
This is what the Broncos postgame show is reporting.
How do the Broncos make it in if you win and Pittsburgh loses? Pittsburgh doesn't occupy a spot for Denver to take. It all depends on the Jets and the Ravens, if either of them lose it opens the doors to the rest of the pack (Broncos included) to take a spot
How many playoff spots are you imagining are available here? Pitt AND Balt AND Jets AND Texans win and the Broncos make it in? Surely you have some typos here. All Baltimore has to do is win and they are in. Same with the Jets. The rest will just be wondering why they couldn't beat the teams they were supposed to.
Read the rules you linked more carefully. Once the first tiebreaker is complete, the process is repeated. If, as we've been discussing for the last page and a half, the Jets, Ravens, and Broncos are 9-7, the Jets are identified as the winner of that tiebreaker. Then the process is repeated, between only two teams and the Broncos lose the tiebreaker to Baltimore.
I'd find a different show if that's where you got your information from.
Tie Breaking Proceedures
Here they are again :
Tie Breaking Proceedures
For those of you looking for these :
NFL Tie-Breaking Procedures
NFL Tiebreaking Procedures
The six postseason participants from each conference are seeded as follows:
1. The division champion with the best record.
2. The division champion with the second-best record.
3. The division champion with the third-best record.
4. The division champion with the fourth-best record.
5. The Wild Card club with the best record.
6. The Wild Card club with the second-best record.
The following procedures will be used to break standings ties for postseason playoffs and to determine regular-season schedules.
NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs.
TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION
If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.
Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss
Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss
TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.
1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.
Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.
Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)
1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss
When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.
DETERMINING HOME-FIELD PRIORITY
1. To determine home-field priority among division titlists, apply Wild-Card tie breakers.
2. To determine home-field priority for Wild-Card qualifiers, apply division tie breakers (if teams are from the same division) or Wild-Card tie breakers (if teams are from different divisions).
TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING
If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff clubs:
1. The Super Bowl winner is last and the Super Bowl loser next-to-last.
2. Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie moves down in drafting priority within its tied segment as follows:
* For a loss inthe Wild-Card playoffs, a plus factor of one-half.
* For participation, win or lose, in the Divisional Playoffs, a plus factor of one.
* For a loss in the conference championship Game, a plus factor of one.
3. Clubs with the best won-lost-tied records after these steps are applied will drop to their appropriate spots at the bottom of the tied segment. In no case will the above process move a club lower than the segmentin which it was initially tied.
4. Tied clubs will alternate priority throughout the 7 rounds of the draft. In case of a tie involving three or more teams, the club with priority in the first round will drop to the bottom of the tied segment in the second round and move its way back to the top of the segment in each succeeding round.
If any ties cannot be broken by strength of schedule, the divisional or conference tie breakers, whichever are applicable, are applied. Any ties that still exist are broken by a coin flip.
Here they are again :
Tie Breaking Proceedures
For those of you looking for these :
NFL Tie-Breaking Procedures
NFL Tiebreaking Procedures
The six postseason participants from each conference are seeded as follows:
1. The division champion with the best record.
2. The division champion with the second-best record.
3. The division champion with the third-best record.
4. The division champion with the fourth-best record.
5. The Wild Card club with the best record.
6. The Wild Card club with the second-best record.
The following procedures will be used to break standings ties for postseason playoffs and to determine regular-season schedules.
NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs.
TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION
If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.
Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss
Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss
TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.
1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.
Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.
Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)
1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss
When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.
DETERMINING HOME-FIELD PRIORITY
1. To determine home-field priority among division titlists, apply Wild-Card tie breakers.
2. To determine home-field priority for Wild-Card qualifiers, apply division tie breakers (if teams are from the same division) or Wild-Card tie breakers (if teams are from different divisions).
TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING
If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff clubs:
1. The Super Bowl winner is last and the Super Bowl loser next-to-last.
2. Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie moves down in drafting priority within its tied segment as follows:
* For a loss inthe Wild-Card playoffs, a plus factor of one-half.
* For participation, win or lose, in the Divisional Playoffs, a plus factor of one.
* For a loss in the conference championship Game, a plus factor of one.
3. Clubs with the best won-lost-tied records after these steps are applied will drop to their appropriate spots at the bottom of the tied segment. In no case will the above process move a club lower than the segmentin which it was initially tied.
4. Tied clubs will alternate priority throughout the 7 rounds of the draft. In case of a tie involving three or more teams, the club with priority in the first round will drop to the bottom of the tied segment in the second round and move its way back to the top of the segment in each succeeding round.
If any ties cannot be broken by strength of schedule, the divisional or conference tie breakers, whichever are applicable, are applied. Any ties that still exist are broken by a coin flip.
You guys can debate this, all I need to know is who I need to root for next week other than the Steeler's to win.
Baltimore to lose would be one.
I think it would help if Denver were to lose too.
Baltimore to lose would be one.
I think it would help if Denver were to lose too.
Try this. It is pretty fun.
NFL - Playoff Scenario Generator- Yahoo! Sports
BTW, Count on the Patriots losing next week. I hope and think they will treat this as a bye week.
NFL - Playoff Scenario Generator- Yahoo! Sports
BTW, Count on the Patriots losing next week. I hope and think they will treat this as a bye week.
Fun tool, Steelers have a better shot than I'd expected, looks like Denver is eliminated unless Baltimore AND the Jets lose or Jets and a New England loss.
The NFC's 6 playoff teams are set.
Minnesota, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Arizona, Dallas, Green Bay.
Honestly, I would not be shocked if any of these teams make the Super Bowl.
Minnesota, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Arizona, Dallas, Green Bay.
Honestly, I would not be shocked if any of these teams make the Super Bowl.
Today was a double whammy for Ramy.
Redskins get shutout, Kentucky loses their bowl game.
Thank goodness for the Whodeys.
Redskins get shutout, Kentucky loses their bowl game.
Thank goodness for the Whodeys.
Their defense is good, but not '00 Baltimore Raven good. The Jets need a more adequate QB in the playoffs to make any noise and the Jets just do not have that right now.
I couldn't agree more.
Very little seperates these six teams. Right now, my money is on Philly coming out of the NFC.
