NFL 2009-10 Season

[meStevo]

Right, but if they want to have a chance at more than one game at home, they need to win next week just in case the Patriots fall to the Texans who need a win and help for a wildcard spot.

The Bengals haven't played well, they need a good game more than they need rest.

If they beat their wildcard opponents, number 4 is going to Indy, and number 3 is going to San Diego. If they get through that then I am sure Cincinnati would love to have the AFC Championship at home, rather than going to Foxboro where the Patriots have gone undefeated this season. The Patriots were 2-5 on the road this season, and one of those games was on a neutral field.

They really do have a lot to play for.

 

[meStevo]

I was looking at the fact that the Jets have moved into the last spot, while having the same record as the Steeler's and the same division records.
However, I see that the Jets are 1 game ahead of the Steeler's in the Conference standings.

Now, if the Bengals beat the Jets and the Steelers win, then the Steeleers would pull ahead of them ......
So YES, the Bengals game means a LOT ..... can't believe I'm saying this, but Go Bengals !, ugh.

They also need the Texans to lose to New England.

 

[BillD1984]

They also need the Texans to lose to New England.

Right. That's why Miami losing to Houston today really hurt the Steelers chances.

If the Dolphins defeated Houston today, yes Miami would have been ahead of Pittsburgh.

BUT, the Steelers could've taken care of that by beating Miami next week. NOW they need the Texans to lose to a Patriots team that will more than likely play Brady for only a couple of series.

 

[AntAltMike]

I'm still rooting for an eight-way 8-8 tie, with five of those teams having 6-6 conference records. As soon as even one, eight win team wins its ninth game, the number of permutations drops from about a hundred to fewer than a dozen.

 

[salsadancer7]

I hope my Raider can finish strong and hand the Ravens a deathly playoff blow. BUT, if the Raider DO beat the Ravens, are they completely eliminated or can they still get in with a loss...?

 

[AntAltMike]

If someone can find a "strength of victory" comparison of the wins of the five teams with 8-7 records, or even better, one that includes Jacksonville and Miami (no point in including Tenessee because they fail due to their conference record under any 8-8 tie scenario), then we could figure out a lot of possibilities.

 

[SabresRule]

Tonight is Zorn's last stand as Redskin coach.

For all intents and purposes, I think this is his last home game.

 

[Jimbo]

Right, but if they want to have a chance at more than one game at home, they need to win next week just in case the Patriots fall to the Texans who need a win and help for a wildcard spot.

The Bengals haven't played well, they need a good game more than they need rest.

If they beat their wildcard opponents, number 4 is going to Indy, and number 3 is going to San Diego. If they get through that then I am sure Cincinnati would love to have the AFC Championship at home, rather than going to Foxboro where the Patriots have gone undefeated this season. The Patriots were 2-5 on the road this season, and one of those games was on a neutral field.

They really do have a lot to play for.

Shoot, I forgot all about Houston for a few minutes there.

 

[yaz96]

Yes, they just said that in the Denver game actually, Baltimore would control their own destiny.

No, Broncos are #5 seed Wildcard, and the Jets are #6. If Broncos win next week, they are in, no matter who else wins.

 

[yaz96]

Eagles defeat Broncos, 30-27.

Here's the pecking order for the 8-7 teams going into the final week:

1. Jets
2. Ravens
***********

3. Texans
4. Steelers
5. Broncos

nope, this is wrong.....

 

[yaz96]

Broncos
Jets

Ravens
Texans
Steelers

 

[Jimbo]

Broncos
Jets

Ravens
Texans
Steelers

The above post IS correct (previous post) TILL next weeks games.
Broco's drop behind many of them for the moment, based on thier current record and wins vs those teams.
I believe if the Bronco's win next week they move back up in the standing back to where they were before today

 

[meStevo]

Yup, its because of how the tiebreakers work, here's a better explination from another forum (from a Ravens fan, so 'we' = Ravens):

Lets assume 9-7 for Jets, Denver, Houston, Pitt. Not completely out of the realms.

Only one team from each division can enter a multiple way tie. Each division uses division tie-breaker to widdle it down to only one per division. We split with Pitt head-to-head, but the Ravens have a better division record, so they are hosed.

Houston would have a worse AFC record, which comes before 'common opponents' and eliminates them before that step.

Jets/Ravens/Broncos:

No head to head since all 3 teams didn't play each other. All 3 teams would be 7-5 in the AFC.
So it goes to common opponents where the Jets win.

Thus, the #6 seed is a head to head where the Ravens win over Denver applies, giving them the spot.

The Jets and Ravens control their own destiny. Tiebreaker conditions are what change between now and next week, so that's why they'd then bump the Broncos out of the playoffs.

For common opponents:

Common opponents for Jets/Ravens/Broncos: Indy, NE, Oak, Cincy.

Jets would be 4-1 against them.
Denver would be 3-2 against them.
Ravens would be 1-4 against them.

So Jets win the 3-way tie and get #5 seed.

Once that is settled, the Broncos lost to Baltimore during the season, so they are then out of the playoffs at 9th in the AFC.

 

[yaz96]

The above post IS correct (previous post) TILL next weeks games.
Bronco's drop behind many of them for the moment, based on thier current record and wins vs those teams.
I believe if the Bronco's win next week they move back up in the standing back to where they were before today

Nope, see this on NFL.COM. I got my info there.

Playoff Picture 2009

 

[salsadancer7]

Nope, see this on NFL.COM. I got my info there.

Playoff Picture 2009

Look where it says, "playoff picture"...it says "if the playoffs ended today". It does not count next weeks results.

 

[yaz96]

Look where it says, "playoff picture"...it says "if the playoffs ended today". It does not count next weeks results.

True, but I was replying to BillD's post, which is currently incorrect.

For example, on the radio, they are saying IF the Broncos win , and the Jets or Texans win next week, the standings will remain as they are now, and the Broncos are in. It's definitely very convoluted....

 

[meStevo]

True, but I was replying to BillD's post, which is currently incorrect.

Right, but it's just a technicality. The Broncos are basically the car that outran all the other wildcard teams in the race, but ran out of gas and is sitting on the track motionless. Now they will be passed, it's a fact, unless the on the lead lap wreck before getting there, or Orton steps out of his car and gets run over by the 'KC' car about 3 laps down.

Denver needs to win and needs help next week, it's kinda funny that the standings for 'if the playoffs were today' are misleading the way they are, just shows how interesting the tiebreaking stuff can be.

 

[meStevo]

True, but I was replying to BillD's post, which is currently incorrect.

For example, on the radio, they are saying IF the Broncos win , and the Jets or Texans win next week, the standings will remain as they are now, and the Broncos are in. It's definitely very convoluted....

It's as simple as the the top 4 in your list right now all win next week (Denver, NYJ, Houston, Baltimore), and the Broncos don't go to the playoffs. That's why it is confusing.

 

[Jimbo]

Right, but it's just a technicality. The Broncos are basically the car that outran all the other wildcard teams in the race, but ran out of gas and is sitting on the track motionless. Now they will be passed, it's a fact, unless the on the lead lap wreck before getting there, or Orton steps out of his car and gets run over by the 'KC' car about 3 laps down.

Denver needs to win and needs help next week, it's kinda funny that the standings for 'if the playoffs were today' are misleading the way they are, just shows how interesting the tiebreaking stuff can be.

It's just a ploy to get everyone talking about it !!!!!
And it's working !!!

 

[Jimbo]

Sunday Night Football.

NY Jets and Cincy Bengals on as the last SNF game of the year.