Here is another article supporting the MAC.
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/content/bcs-busters-wac-mac-fared-better-acc
Yes the MAC is still going to lose to the big boys most of the time but they aren't quite the cupcakes they used to be.
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Here is another article supporting the MAC.
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/content/bcs-busters-wac-mac-fared-better-acc
Yes the MAC is still going to lose to the big boys most of the time but they aren't quite the cupcakes they used to be.
Sure, there are some decent teams in the MAC, and there are some decent teams in the top of the FBS ranks as well. There are also some terrible teams in the MAC (most conferences). And sure there will be some upsets, hell App state beat Michigan, Va Tech got beat by a FCS team, as did Ole Miss in recent past.
I just do not see it as a big deal considering the matchups that will likely replace them. Instead of Wisconsin vs Northern Iowa (who only lost to the Badgers 26-21 on the road), you will most likely have Wisconsin vs Akron/UMass/Eastern Mich/ect.
Just replacing one cupcake with one kind of icing for another cupcake with a different kind.
Edit: I personally would rather Bama replace a few no name games with some FBS Sun Belt opponets such as regional teams like South Alabama or Troy, but I would not go around saying that we necessarily improved our schedule by doing so.
I just do not see it as a big deal considering the matchups that will likely replace them. Instead of Wisconsin vs Northern Iowa (who only lost to the Badgers 26-21 on the road), you will most likely have Wisconsin vs Akron/UMass/Eastern Mich/ect.
Just replacing one cupcake with one kind of icing for another cupcake with a different kind.
Edit: I personally would rather Bama replace a few no name games with some FBS Sun Belt opponets such as regional teams like South Alabama or Troy, but I would not go around saying that we necessarily improved our schedule by doing so.
Come on. The MAC got a school into a BCS game this year. How many FCS schools could have done that? Yes there are a few FCS upsets now and then but the MAC had 4 of them in one weekend last year. It isn't fair to say that moving to FBS only isn't an upgrade.
The Appalachian State victory over Michigan happened 5 seasons ago and that is still the FCS team everyone remembers.
I think it's a pretty safe bet that the FBS schools will be better than the FCS schools they are replacing in most cases. Like you said it still won't be Bama or Texas but it's a step in the right direction.The best FCS school in the country might be better than whatever MAC school they pick in any given year. The problem is the schedules are made in advance and there is no way of knowing who that FCS school will be. The MAC will be more consistent than the FCS schools they are replacing.
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I doubt you will ever see a FCS team in a BCS game....
The MAC did have some "upsets" but lets not make them more than they were. The four upsets that weekend were over a 4-8 Iowa (although they did beat the best team in the MAC the first week of the season) , a 5-7 UConn, a 3-9 South Florida, and a 1-11 Kansas. Not exactly headline making wins IMHO.
Then you have some terrible losses. The N Ill loss to Iowa, then they got handled by FSU in the bowl game. The second best team in the MAC, Kent State, who finished 11-3 got trashed 47-14 by a Kentucky team that went 0-8 in the SEC, and only 2-10 overall. Ball State, another top MAC team got thrashed by Clemson and Central Florida.
As to them being more consistent than the FCS schools, we will see, but I seriously doubt it. The powerhouses will still generally beat the weaker teams, FBS as the classification or not.
The MAC did have some "upsets" but lets not make them more than they were. The four upsets that weekend were over a 4-8 Iowa (although they did beat the best team in the MAC the first week of the season) , a 5-7 UConn, a 3-9 South Florida, and a 1-11 Kansas. Not exactly headline making wins IMHO.
Then you have some terrible losses. The N Ill loss to Iowa, then they got handled by FSU in the bowl game. The second best team in the MAC, Kent State, who finished 11-3 got trashed 47-14 by a Kentucky team that went 0-8 in the SEC, and only 2-10 overall. Ball State, another top MAC team got thrashed by Clemson and Central Florida.
As to them being more consistent than the FCS schools, we will see, but I seriously doubt it. The powerhouses will still generally beat the weaker teams, FBS as the classification or not.
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I doubt you will ever see a FCS team in a BCS game....
The MAC did have some "upsets" but lets not make them more than they were. The four upsets that weekend were over a 4-8 Iowa (although they did beat the best team in the MAC the first week of the season) , a 5-7 UConn, a 3-9 South Florida, and a 1-11 Kansas. Not exactly headline making wins IMHO.
As to them being more consistent than the FCS schools, we will see, but I seriously doubt it. The powerhouses will still generally beat the weaker teams, FBS as the classification or not.
Of course. I'm not saying Central Michigan could have beaten Alabama or any of the top 10 teams for that matter. A team like Ohio can beat a team like Penn State though. I'm not saying the best of the MAC can take out the best of the BCS. Were talking about the BCS as a whole though and in my opinion the MAC has a better chance of beating an average BCS school than the FCS. This year they showed that they might have as good of a chance as the Big East by going 4-4 against them.
Here is the final point I will make about this and I feel it basically ends the discussion. The MAC had 8 wins over BCS schools this season. How many did FCS schools have? I really don't know. I am honestly asking but from a simple google search of FCS wins over BCS schools I can't find any lists. This leads me to believe there weren't many.
There are 13 MAC football schools. The conference had 8 wins over BCS schools last season. If there are less than that with 121 FCS schools I think my point that the MAC has a better chance of beating BCS schools is proven.
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Not entirely ...
The Big Ten has always played the MAC, already, so, thats not who is replacing the sub division guys ...
Fwiw, I didn't know the Buckeyes had been playing the sub division teams, ... before you comment the MAC is the same, it's NOT.
The MAC BEAT BIG Ten teams every year, not all of them, but they CAN play with some of them.
I doubt you will ever see a FCS team in a BCS game....
The MAC did have some "upsets" but lets not make them more than they were. The four upsets that weekend were over a 4-8 Iowa (although they did beat the best team in the MAC the first week of the season) , a 5-7 UConn, a 3-9 South Florida, and a 1-11 Kansas. Not exactly headline making wins IMHO.
Then you have some terrible losses. The N Ill loss to Iowa, then they got handled by FSU in the bowl game. The second best team in the MAC, Kent State, who finished 11-3 got trashed 47-14 by a Kentucky team that went 0-8 in the SEC, and only 2-10 overall. Ball State, another top MAC team got thrashed by Clemson and Central Florida.
As to them being more consistent than the FCS schools, we will see, but I seriously doubt it. The powerhouses will still generally beat the weaker teams, FBS as the classification or not.
Toledo, if they don't Win, they are very competitive in thier games against the Big boys.
They almost beat Ohio State a few years ago, they Beat Penn State, they BEAT Michigan, IN the Big House.
So did App State.
Yeah, the MAC is going to win more games against fbs schools in general, and bcs schools in particular. It is hard to make a direct comparison though.
Head to head against the "money" schools, in games that will really matter, the MAC probably has a comparable win/loss record as the FCS. I've already pointed out that the four upsets in one week were not really upsets at all.
To the Ohio states of the big 10, a MAC team in general is as much of a cupcake as most FCS schools.
The same is true matching the SEC against the Sun Belt.
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Yeah, the MAC is going to win more games against fbs schools in general, and bcs schools in particular. It is hard to make a direct comparison though.
Head to head against the "money" schools, in games that will really matter, the MAC probably has a comparable win/loss record as the FCS. I've already pointed out that the four upsets in one week were not really upsets at all.
To the Ohio states of the big 10, a MAC team in general is as much of a cupcake as most FCS schools.
The same is true matching the SEC against the Sun Belt.
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Yes they play some of them already, buy betting money is on them scheduling them more often to replace those games. Makes sense. It is regional.
And yes, the MAC will win against a mid/low level bcs team some times. They will even luck up against the big boys occasionally, upsets happen.
I still say a cupcake is a cupcake. I am more impressed by them playing more conference games than this. THAT strengthens the schedule much more then dropping fcs for low level fbs teams.
Of course that's just my opinion, you are welcome to your own.
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Yes they play some of them already, buy betting money is on them scheduling them more often to replace those games. Makes sense. It is regional.
And yes, the MAC will win against a mid/low level bcs team some times. They will even luck up against the big boys occasionally, upsets happen.
I still say a cupcake is a cupcake. I am more impressed by them playing more conference games than this. THAT strengthens the schedule much more then dropping fcs for low level fbs teams.
Of course that's just my opinion, you are welcome to your own.
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I haven't seen where this is going to make a big difference, as I said earlier, I didn't see ther Big Guys playing the FCS guys in the first place, other than Mich. playing App State, and App State at the time was the FCS CHAMP.
I don't know if this has been already discussed,but the NCAA is coming out with a proposal "to require teams to have either their jersey or pants contrast in color to the playing field." You can call this rule the "Boise State" rule.
Boise State just can’t win, NCAA tries to keep Broncos from wearing all-blue uniforms
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...t-t-win-ncaa-tries-keep-203338708--ncaaf.html
Boise State just can’t win, NCAA tries to keep Broncos from wearing all-blue uniforms
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...t-t-win-ncaa-tries-keep-203338708--ncaaf.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-source-big-east-moving-015446471--ncaaf.html
The new Conference USA is about to sign its TV deal, worth less than the previous Big East TV deal.
The new Conference USA is about to sign its TV deal, worth less than the previous Big East TV deal.
I think thats a GOOD move ....
Next thing you'll seeBoise do is change their field to BROWN and thier uniforms to the same color as the football.
It's just wrong, also VERY hard on the eyes to watch thier current field on High End HD TV's ...
ugg... bad memory here - but I tell ya it was a perfect storm that week. Lose to Boise ST, then 4 days later play JMU and just play like crap then go undefeated rest of season...meh.
Back to present day: I'm planning my trip to Atlanta this year with high hopes of coming back with a win
it is a long shot but VT almost had them last time if not for a few bad calls - anything can happen.
ACC title game cost ‘Noles nearly $500k
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/16/acc-title-game-cost-noles-nearly-500k/
FSU suffered a net loss of nearly $480,000 for their appearance in the ACC championship game against Georgia Tech. Specifically, the school’s income statement shows a net loss of $478,964.20 as a result of the trip to Charlotte.
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/16/acc-title-game-cost-noles-nearly-500k/
FSU suffered a net loss of nearly $480,000 for their appearance in the ACC championship game against Georgia Tech. Specifically, the school’s income statement shows a net loss of $478,964.20 as a result of the trip to Charlotte.
That's a shame. Didn't read the whole thing, but I can't imagine vandy vs miss state being a money loser for either team.
What are they doing wrong ?
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