NCAA Football 2011-2012

Prob won't happen no matter if Georgia shuts them out 20-0 cause voters have already filled out their final cards which is BS all around but ohh well..till you take voters out of it and leave only computers ( a new system than what it is now) you will have this bias.

Even WITH Computers you'll have bias .... someone had to program them.
 
No, they just need to make some rules here to where you can't have you're AQ spot unless you are in the top 15 final BCS Rankings.






You mean ACC outside of Virginia Tech - as its been since VT has joined the ACC they have owned it - that's a fact.

No I meant Florida State. They are still a far bigger name and have more allure and bring higher TV ratings along with them. That's what bowl officials are looking for.

Though I agree with you Va Tech has been the better team on the field the last few years.
 
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Jimbo said:
Even WITH Computers you'll have bias .... someone had to program them.

Have said that before in this argument. The computers now show that.
He wants new computers, but they will still be bound to the programming put in them. Programming installed by "biased" programmers.

I'd much rather keep the voters and some semblance of rational thinking in the mix than the chaos that is the computers in the bcs rankings. Just take a look at them.

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The biggest issue I have right now and I can bet everyone here will agree is seeing a possible #3 or #4 Virginia Tech play against a #23 West Virginia or unranked Big East team is just sad.. VT deserves better, a bigger team to face win or lose at least they made it and played and earned their shot at this BCS bowl game. I get sick of hearing about how low the Orange bowl is cept last year it was against Stanford whom was a very good team and showed it..so why not a rematch just like LSU and Bama is getting? Well the Fiesta picks first so of course they will go for them..but hell there are a few more teams in the top 10 that should be in that game instead of a low ranked WVA or whats left of the Big East.

Either of the 3 Big East teams you're downplaying have better OOC wins, and likely better conference wins, than the Hokies. Their schedule was a joke this year:

App St
@ECU
Ark St
@Marshall
Clemson (L)
Miami
@WF
BC
@GT
UNC
@UVA

Congrats, you're 11-1 against what might be the 2nd worst OOC schedule in the country (behind my Huskies :) ), and a pretty bad ACC. You have a contract with the Orange Bowl. Deal with it!

FWIW I agree on the Stanford/UConn swap - would have made sense in all directions
 
Kinda hard to rip on Boise St's schedule all the time considering the Hokie's schedule. At least the Broncos beat the one ranked team they played.
 
hancox said:
Either of the 3 Big East teams you're downplaying have better OOC wins, and likely better conference wins, than the Hokies. Their schedule was a joke this year:

App St
@ECU
Ark St
@Marshall
Clemson (L)
Miami
@WF
BC
@GT
UNC
@UVA

Congrats, you're 11-1 against what might be the 2nd worst OOC schedule in the country (behind my Huskies :) ), and a pretty bad ACC. You have a contract with the Orange Bowl. Deal with it!

FWIW I agree on the Stanford/UConn swap - would have made sense in all directions

Next he will be saying it's not VT fault that their OOC games are weak, no other team wants to play them.

:D
 
Yeah but he defended it early this year saying they deserve an easy schedule after playing (and losing to) Boise and Alabama the years prior. ;)
 
Perhaps I've overlooked it, but one question that remained unanswered from yesterday's presser.... Will Urban Meyer coach the Buckeyes if they go to a bowl game or will Luke Fickell coach and then Urban Renewal start fresh next year?
 
Even WITH Computers you'll have bias .... someone had to program them.

This is a mOOt argument - you have no idea what a computer is aside from typing on it to make this post do you? lol

Really - Once programmed it wont have any favorites towards any one team - main reason why is one team is 111 another team is 110 another team is 100 etc etc... 1000110 1000011 that's all the computers will see and if you have a outside firm monitoring any tampering with the numbers then you will have no Bias like it is coming from voters - just straight up exact numbers for each team on where they stand.
 
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This is a mute argument - you have no idea what a computer is aside from typing on it to make this post do you? lol

Really - Once programmed it wont have any favorites towards any one team - main reason why is one team is 111 another team is 110 another team is 100 etc etc... 1000110 1000011 that's all the computers will see and if you have a outside firm monitoring any tampering with the numbers then you will have no Bias like it is coming from voters - just straight up exact numbers for each team on where they stand.

it's MOOT argument, not mute.
 
Either of the 3 Big East teams you're downplaying have better OOC wins, and likely better conference wins, than the Hokies. Their schedule was a joke this year:

App St
@ECU
Ark St
@Marshall
Clemson (L)
Miami
@WF
BC
@GT
UNC
@UVA

Congrats, you're 11-1 against what might be the 2nd worst OOC schedule in the country (behind my Huskies :) ), and a pretty bad ACC. You have a contract with the Orange Bowl. Deal with it!

FWIW I agree on the Stanford/UConn swap - would have made sense in all directions

I'm very happy with a decent schedule this year.... as a fan its been BS year after year to start out with a big team on the first game so this was a welcomed change for a learning QB and some others just starting out - Bama schedules puffs, Florida schedules puffs many teams schedule powder puff teams at the start of the season unless TV pays them off which is what is happening in a few more years when VT plays Bama again for the Chik Fila Kick off game in Atlanta.

So yeah their schedule was a little weak but ya know what - they won them all but one to a top 15 team at the time and they got the job done against even those other teams - many of which played very very hard and had nothing to loss - we've all seen it this year a big Ranked team get taken down by a nobody so it is what it is and i'm glad for the schedule - nice learning tool.

But NOW VT is #5 could be #3 or #4 by the bowl game and deserve to play someone else bigger and much stronger than a "Little" East team that hasn't done much of nothing all year in the polls. West VA wouldn't be that bad if they would get up a little higher as it has always been a nice rival game against them and the last time we played them was over there spanking them up one side and down the other with Marcus Vick - he didn't last long after that game cause of his attitude and after stomping on a WVA players hand then flipping off the WVU crowd...Beamer won't stand for that no matter who's brother he was.
 
Kinda hard to rip on Boise St's schedule all the time considering the Hokie's schedule. At least the Broncos beat the one ranked team they played.

You don't get it do you... VT's schedule is weak this year first one of its kind in years and they needed it for some new players to get settled - other big name teams do this from time to time also - Last year VT's schedule was crazy with many ACC teams ranked high, year before that some OCC teams fell to VT, year before that same..and year before that it was VT finishing #3 in the country they finish at the top over and over. Boise St's schedule is by far horrible compared to VT's and not just this year but many of the last few years - nice to see Kellen Moore gone now, don't expect them to be high anymore pre-season no matter how they play so GOOD BYE Boise St. - See I can hate too its easy online ;)

It's just funny as hell VT is #5 and so many people hate em here lol - Keep winning Hokies and keep doing good things! :) I believe in my team and that's all that really matters - there is no wrong or right from anyone here including myself, seems many have just lost that mentality of the internet.

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Last year the acc was a joke, even the big east was better. We lost almost every ooc game last year.

And what clempson was ranked when you played them means nothing, you have to look where they are now, at the end of the season.

And even if VT played hard teams in the past, it doesn't excuse a joke schedule now.

Alabama and LSU seem to have no problem beating good teams early, why does VT?
 
Last year the acc was a joke, even the big east was better. We lost almost every ooc game last year.

And what clempson was ranked when you played them means nothing, you have to look where they are now, at the end of the season.

And even if VT played hard teams in the past, it doesn't excuse a joke schedule now.

Alabama and LSU seem to have no problem beating good teams early, why does VT?


VT has played some hard teams this year - GT was one, Clemson was one, UNC was another.. Miami was one - don't ignore these teams when they bring it each week. Now as for App St that may be the single team worth saying a joke team to play but MANY teams play FCS teams there is no shame in it...ask Michigan fans what happened in 2007 when they played App St. ECU is a good team always have been, been ranked many times in the past and I'd put them up over top of a few bottom feeding SEC teams right now. pft..joke schedule.

As for Alabama and LSU beating good teams early.... well hey there has to be a winner and a loser it happens to those that are more ready for it, my argument with VT is it seems every damn time a big game is scheduled early like an opener its during a rebuilding year and this year was exactly that with a new QB and Defense that just got hammered thru out the year - best schedule I've seen in a long time for VT and a building year.
 
So it was good that they had a lighter schedule because it was a rebuilding year. Translation, if we had a harder schedule, we wouldnt have done as good and we wouldnt be ranked as high.

I dont know if you realize it, but that is pretty much what you just said. ;)
 
So it was good that they had a lighter schedule because it was a rebuilding year. Translation, if we had a harder schedule, we wouldnt have done as good and we wouldnt be ranked as high.

I dont know if you realize it, but that is pretty much what you just said. ;)

You need time to prep and yes if VT was to have played harder teams starting out first two weeks there would have been hell to pay, there is no getting around that. But you can't ignore that each week they have gotten better and better - the Clemson game was just a water splash in the face for bigger boost if you ask me and needed - would rather lose to a top 10 team than App St. VT has earned every spot it's gotten in the polls and if for some odd reason it would have slipped into the NC game then it deserved the chance and could play right there along side LSU or Bama I don't believe for a second they would just flat out lose as bad as Ark did..nope VT is a better team by far.

VT beats Clemson Saturday it could slide up as far as #3 in the polls if of course Okla St loses - and being #3, #4 or #5 they deserve to play a much higher ranked team than West VA that is 23rd or another Big East team. For someone to say otherwise is crazy - all the BCS bowl games need bigtime high ranking teams playing in them. A +1 setup would prob be a good idea at this point to decide a champ but keep the other BCS Bowl games with AQ's just don't let these bowl games go so long before being played.
 
This is a mOOt argument - you have no idea what a computer is aside from typing on it to make this post do you? lol

Really - Once programmed it wont have any favorites towards any one team - main reason why is one team is 111 another team is 110 another team is 100 etc etc... 1000110 1000011 that's all the computers will see and if you have a outside firm monitoring any tampering with the numbers then you will have no Bias like it is coming from voters - just straight up exact numbers for each team on where they stand.

I like your thinking, but your WAY off here.

IF the person programming the computer likes Va Tech then he could easily sway the figures in that direction.
You think once originally programmed, nothing happens with it again ?
 
Perhaps I've overlooked it, but one question that remained unanswered from yesterday's presser.... Will Urban Meyer coach the Buckeyes if they go to a bowl game or will Luke Fickell coach and then Urban Renewal start fresh next year?

In case this hasn't been answered yet, Luke Fickell will coach the team if they go to a Bowl game.

I've been a proponent of having to be better than .500 to go to a bowl, but thats not the rules yet.
 

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