NCAA Football 2009-10 Season

[salsadancer7]

ok, thats right I forgot the ACC is the SEC's brother.
So every game has to be better than anyone in the Big Ten.

Penn State would also put a whippin on your guy's.

LMAO!! Jimbo.....your are sounding like Oliver Stone...full of conspiracy theories against the Big 10 and Ohio State....

You win Jimbo, tOSU is the greatest team that ever played college football in the most amazing conference every created in college sports.:up


...ah-mazing......

 

[Jimbo]

Ya know Salsa, it will all shake out by the end of the season and neither one of us have any say as to what will happen or where they will end up in the ranking.

I've enjoyed debating this

 

[anders5189]

You know what's funny is that Jimbo is all worked up about Miami's ranking yet he could care less that Cincinnati is ranked ahead of the mighty Buckeyes. Apparantly THE Ohio State University isn't even THE best team in its own state.

 

[Jimbo]

You know what's funny is that Jimbo is all worked up about Miami's ranking yet he could care less that Cincinnati is ranked ahead of the mighty Buckeyes. Apparantly THE Ohio State University isn't even THE best team in its own state.

Actually, if you've paid attention, I'm not the one worked up by the rankings, the Bucks are ahead of Salsa's Canes, he's the one all worked up.

Also, the polls say different things ...
AP has Cincy 8 and the Bucks 9 .....
USA has the Bucks 8 and Cincy 10 ....

And NO I'm not concerned about Cincy's ranking

Toledo may be able to beat Cincy, they both typically play in a bowl game, generally in the same catagory.

Jimbo

 

[Jimbo]

You know what's funny is that Jimbo is all worked up about Miami's ranking yet he could care less that Cincinnati is ranked ahead of the mighty Buckeyes. Apparantly THE Ohio State University isn't even THE best team in its own state.

If you look closer, the Bucks AND the Bobcats may be better than the Browns and Bengals

 

[Jimbo]

BCS polls are the only ones that matter in reality ....
When do they come out ?

It's interesting how a few people running computers can decide who plays who in the post season.
They can make them computers say whatever they want in the end, there is no one telling them what they need to do, no one over sees them.

 

[SabresRule]

I find it funny how Anders rips certain teams considering his team's record.

He has taken shots at Ohio State and Notre Dame, both 4-1, while his team's 2-2.

He disses Notre Dame's defense, yet his team's offense is also somewhat dismal.

 

[anders5189]

I find it funny how Anders rips certain teams considering his team's record.

He has taken shots at Ohio State and Notre Dame, both 4-1, while his team's 2-2.

He disses Notre Dame's defense, yet his team's offense is also somewhat dismal.

Actually Carolina is 3-2, but they look awful right now. I can criticize anyone I want. I'm not here saying that my team is great. I know where they stand. That doesn't mean I can't weigh in on other teams. You'd have a point if I was whining that Carolina got no respect and should be ranked ahead of USC like some people on here do. I call them like I see them. Notre Dame IS a mediocre team. And when someone steps up and does well I'll say so. I didn't think Miami could weather the early schedule. They did. Nice job.

 

[Jimbo]

Actually Carolina is 3-2, but they look awful right now. I can criticize anyone I want. I'm not here saying that my team is great. I know where they stand. That doesn't mean I can't weigh in on other teams. You'd have a point if I was whining that Carolina got no respect and should be ranked ahead of USC like some people on here do. I call them like I see them. Notre Dame IS a mediocre team. And when someone steps up and does well I'll say so. I didn't think Miami could weather the early schedule. They did. Nice job.

Interesting point there Anders
You would rather diss another team before standing up for your own .... hmmm.

Maybe if you had a team worth following you wouldn't be that way.

Maybe I should quit supporting my team and start doing like you do and diss the other teams .....

I'll have to think about that , not a bad idea ....


It's amazing how many people will continue to take shots at me for supporting my team year after year, even if thier teams are ranked lower or UNRANKED all together.

 

[Derwin0]

You know what's funny is that Jimbo is all worked up about Miami's ranking yet he could care less that Cincinnati is ranked ahead of the mighty Buckeyes. Apparantly THE Ohio State University isn't even THE best team in its own state.

Cincinnati is undefeated, so it's harder to argue against them being higher ranked.
Though he did when Miami was undefeated and ranked higher.

 

[Jimbo]

Cincinnati is undefeated, so it's harder to argue against them being higher ranked.
Though he did when Miami was undefeated and ranked higher.

Please see post # 984

 

[Derwin0]

It would be SOOO funny if Miami and Ohio State end up in a BCS bowl (it's possible- VaTech could screw up down the road, Miami has no daunting ACC games left, and Ohio State has a great chance to win their conference).

Depends, as long as Va Tech's single screw up isn't against Ga Tech. That would set up a 3-way tie with identical records (same situation as the Big 12 South last year, and ironically the coastal almost had the same thing happen with the same 3 teams a few years ago).
Miami need Va Tech to have a conference loss, and if that loss is to Ga Tech, there has to be another loss as well.

 

[Derwin0]

Based on records & polls, the main contenders for the BCS game are the SEC champ (Florida/Alabama/LSU/Auburn) and Texas.
If Cincinnati runs the table, as Big East champ they'll leapfrog the 1-loss teams (Va Tech & Ohio St) ahead of them.

If Kansas beats Texas and then wins the Big 12 Championship game (likely against Texas again), they'll probably leap into the BCS game past the 1-loss teams. Same situation for Iowa in the Big 10.

Historically an undefeated record in a BCS conference will get you past any 1-loss teams.

Boise St. is a wildcard. It all depends on the love the computers give them.
Same with TCU, but they have less chances.

 

[Jimbo]

Based on records & polls, the main contenders for the BCS game are the SEC champ (Florida/Alabama/LSU/Auburn) and Texas.
If Cincinnati runs the table, as Big East champ they'll leapfrog the 1-loss teams (Va Tech & Ohio St) ahead of them.

If Kansas beats Texas and then wins the Big 12 Championship game (likely against Texas again), they'll probably leap into the BCS game past the 1-loss teams. Same situation for Iowa in the Big 10.

Historically an undefeated record in a BCS conference will get you past any 1-loss teams.

Boise St. is a wildcard. It all depends on the love the computers give them.
Same with TCU, but they have less chances.

Well youv'e got it all figured out ... lets move on to the stupid bowl, bcs games and get the winter over ....

Seems odd, other 1 loss teams have played for the MNC game while a lesser team has less losses.

You people seem to dismiss OSU pretty quickly seeing they lost to USC in the last minute of play and lost to TEXAS in the last minute of play ....
What does that tell you , you ask ?
It tells you that the Bucks Defense is better than expected and the Offense has 8 out of 11 freshmen and sophmores on it.
The Offense will get better as the season goes on.

Yes, you know it, the Bucks are in the back of all your minds as a team playing in a BSC game again .... if they win out, like everyone else needs to do as well.

 

[Derwin0]

Well youv'e got it all figured out ... lets move on to the stupid bowl, bcs games and get the winter over ....

Seems odd, other 1 loss teams have played for the MNC game while a lesser team has less losses.

How have I dismissed Ohio St.
I've just said that an undefeated BCS team will leapfrog any 1-loss team into the Championship game. Simple history and numbers.

For the same reason, I argued for a 1-loss Ohio St. to be in the 2008 BCS Championship game against LSU, even though I said USC and Georgia were better than them.

I'm sorry, but lose a game and you forfeit any rights to argue your standing over undefeated teams.

 

[SandraC]

Where are the other Buckeye fans on here, BTW?

Personally I find it difficult to defend Ohio State, as they continually find ways to let me down. It's like rooting for the Rangers...

That said, I think it's silly to argue during the first week of October who should be ranked seven, who should be ranked eight, who should be ranked ten, etc. The voters can't even agree, why should people here agree?

And at this point of the season, the sample size is so small, anyone can take any of the results to date and mold them to fit whatever regional point they want to make.

Nobody goes crazy at this point of the NFL season arguing whether the Broncos are better than the Patriots, or the Bears are better than the Falcons. It will all shake out in the end...


Sandra

 

[HD MM]

Where are the other Buckeye fans on here, BTW?

HERE I am.

I've just grown tired of debating rankings and to where/who should play what Bowl in Week 5.

Right now, I'm just enjoying my team and appreciate the progress they've made since Week 2. This defense is stout. Their offense is also making strides. I am happy Jim Tressel has abandoned the I-formation and is going more for the shotgun. This has allowed them to capitalize on what Pryor really excels at (option) and also allows our backs to have a few more steps behind the line to find a hole and hit it. Overall, I'm liking the scheme modifications and I truly believe we're becoming a better team each and every week.

 

[mccoyrj]

...Toledo may be able to beat Cincy...

Jimbo

My daughter started at UC this year and is in the marching band. That means she gets two free tickets to all home games (all that band stuff finally paying off for Dad ). I've been following UC very closely this season. To say Toledo may be able to beat them shows someone else hasn't.

 

[The Insider]

Really ????

You consider the schedule they played all. that great .....
I WISH I could have played your schedule.

Oh ya, a avg. OKLAHOMA team.
They beat a BAD Florida State team.
They beat Georgia Tech
Got SMOKED by Va Tech, the same VA Tech that barely got by DUKE

None of these teams scare me.

Va Tech is overrated and you will see that sooner or later.
FSU is just plain BAD
GT ? They wouldn't make the top half of the Big Ten, maybe 5

Oklahoma wins the BIG GAME LESS that the Bucks.

Lets look at it with open eyes, as I have no dog in the fight.

OSU:

Barely beats navy (anyone watching the game saw that not just the final score)

Lost to USC in the final few mins in a tough fought game. USC then gets beat by Washington (showing USC was not all that) So it makes OSUs last min loss even worse. (A washington team that LSU beat steadily)

OSU blows out Toledo and Illinois (They did what they were suppose to do. Should of been easy wins and they were)

A good win against Indiana as well. Made the Spread. (I think it was 17 for the spread)

(Total teams OSU played who were ranked? 1. Total Losses 1. (to the ranked team)
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Now lets look at Miami.

Hard fought game against instate rival FSU and won (Mich vs OSU type rivalry. Anything can happen) and the U won.

Then Beat GaTech handily. (a GaTech team that is 4-1 and beat #21 NCarolina)

Lost to VTech, Badly. The same VTech Whos only loss was to Alabama. They also beat Ranked Nebraska (and you keep saying barely beat duke. They won by 8 points, and watching the game it was never feared VTech would lose)

Beat OK. Sure no bradford, but that bradford less team broke school records with most TD passes in a game. They shut out there last two games (although weak teams). Any team who loses their star gets hurt, but OK lost their QB. Why did their defense get smacked around? The game was 21 to 20. Anyone who watched should saw it should of been 27 to 14. But a bad call in the last few mins changed that.

(Total teams Miami played who were ranked? 4. (3 top 15 teams) Total Losses? 1 (to ranked #5 Vtech )

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Certainly compareing the two, if the polling was fair Miami would have the edge without a doubt. But we all know how the polling works and as Jimbo pointed out the Preseason polls really hurt Miami. They should be in the top 10 without a doubt.

 

[The Insider]

Interesting point there Anders
You would rather diss another team before standing up for your own .... hmmm.

Maybe if you had a team worth following you wouldn't be that way.

Maybe I should quit supporting my team and start doing like you do and diss the other teams .....

I'll have to think about that , not a bad idea ....


It's amazing how many people will continue to take shots at me for supporting my team year after year, even if thier teams are ranked lower or UNRANKED all together.

No he would just rather call it like he sees it. When his team sucks and has a bad day he will just admit it and not make a hundred excuses. Like (Next time lets play up north in the snow) or (Mich should of been in the game not FLA) or any number of excuses we hear. Like when Mich DESTROYED FLA, I didnt go all homer and say (well if we played in the snow wed of won) etc.

There is being loyal and supporting your team, but at the same time you also have to look at things through reality.

Example: I was the first to bring up FLAS crappy weak schedule. Also brought up the fact if they do lose one game, they should drop out of national title chances, as other teams with much tougher schedules deserve the shot. That of course depends on who the other team is. But while I support my team, I am also a realist. If FLA can make it through the SEC undefeated, there is not doubt they deserve to be in the title game.