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Which is why I have said he is one of, if not the best PLAYERS in College FB history. Sorry, I may not have clarified that looking back.
While I agree with most of what your saying, till here:
all the while he had opposing defenses set up to stop mainly him.
Referring to LAST year here.
He had a WHOLE lot more than just HIM going for them last year .....
They had NFL players on the field all over last year ... some this year as well, but more last year.
My point is, he didn't do it by himself.
One thing I like about Tim, is he's very gracious, he gives redit to all of those that helped out and is NOT a ME Me guy.
I like that about him.
No he did not do it by himself, no doubt about that. He had good teams around him through his career. He did make the team better though, and not all of it was stats, although those were top knotch. He was probably the best offensive threat that they had, be it running, or passing it to one of the other great players they had. Which is why I say defenses set up to stop him mainly.
I agree with you about the rest. He is gracious, and very little bad can be said about his conduct on or off the field in his playing years. Unless one wants to bring up his crying after the SEC champ game, and if THAT is what one brings up....well...
He would definitely belong in there with the following, and maybe the best of the QBs (highlighted), but above all of them as the greatest player in college football history...that would be a stretch. He's just the current hype, and will fall in line like the rest of these guys when the next hyped one comes along.
1. Jim Thorpe HB, Carlisle
2. Herschel Walker RB, Georgia
3. Red Grange HB, Illinois
4. Sammy Baugh QB/DB/P, TCU
5. Vince Young QB, Texas
6. Hugh Green DE, Pittsburgh
7. Archie Griffin RB, Ohio State5. Vince Young QB, Texas
6. Hugh Green DE, Pittsburgh
8. Dick Butkus LB/C, Illinois
9. Bronko Nagurski FB/T, Minnesota
10. Earl Campbell RB, Texas
11. Deion Sanders CB, Florida State
12. Jim Brown RB, Syracuse
13. George Gipp HB, Notre Dame
14. O.J. Simpson RB, USC
15. Archie Manning QB, Ole Miss
16. Walter Payton, Jacksonville State
17. John Hannah OL, Alabama
18. Barry Sanders RB, Oklahoma State
19. Bubba Smith DL, Michigan State
20. Joe Washington, RB Oklahoma
21. Lawrence Taylor LB/DE, North Carolina
22. Ron Dayne RB, Wisconsin
23. Doak Walker RB, SMU
24. Dave Rimington C, Nebraska
25. Tony Dorsett RB Pittsburgh
26. Tommy Nobis LB/G, Texas
27. Doug Williams, Grambling State
28. Bo Jackson RB, Auburn
29. Matt Leinart QB USC
30. Jim Parker OG, Ohio State
31. Marcus Allen RB, USC
32. Doug Flutie QB, Boston College
33. Ricky Williams RB Texas
34. Bennie Oosterbaan End, Michigan
35. Reggie Bush RB, USC
36. Orlando Pace OT, Ohio State
37. Jerry Rice, Mississippi Valley State
38. Lee Roy Jordan LB/C, Alabama
39. Charles Woodson CB/WR/KR, Michigan
40. Doc Blanchard RB, Army
41. Keith Jackson TE, Oklahoma
42. Lee Roy Selmon DT, Oklahoma
43. Mike Ditka TE/DL, Pittsburgh
44. Chuck Bednarik C/LB, Pennsylvania
45. John Elway QB, Stanford
46. Johnny Rodgers WR/KR, Nebraska
47. Brian Bosworth LB, Oklahoma
48. Rich Glover DL, Nebraska
49. Bill Fralic OT, Pittsburgh
50. Dean Steinkuhler OG, Nebraska
51. Jerry Rice WR, Miss Valley St
52. Chris Spielman LB, Ohio State
53. Anthony Carter WR, Michigan
54. George Connor T, Holy Cross & Notre Dame
55. Ernie Davis RB, Syracuse
56. Jack Tatum DB, Ohio State
57. Tommy Casanova DB/RB, LSU
58. Mike Singletary LB, Baylor
59. Howard Twilley WR, Tulsa
60. Jerry Robinson LB, UCLA
61. Glenn Davis HB, Army
62. Kenneth Sims DT, Texas
63. Tommie Frazier QB, Nebraska
64. Johnny Lujack QB, Notre Dame
65. Bob Hayes WR, Florida A&M
66. Randy White DL, Maryland
67. Tim Brown FL, Notre Dame
68. Ted Kwalick Tight End, Penn St
69. Leon Hart Line, Notre Dame
70. Ernie Nevers FB, Stanford
71. Jay Berwanger HB, Chicago
72. Charlie Ward QB, Florida State
73. Davey O'Brien QB, TCU
74. Johnny Lattner Back, Notre Dame
75. Steve Emtman DT, Washington
76. Raghib Ismail WR, Notre Dame
77. Charles White RB, USC
78. Bruce Smith HB, Minnesota
79. Desmond Howard WR, Michigan
80. Tom Harmon HB, Michigan
81. Elmer Oliphant Back, Army
82. Bob Gain T/PK, Kentucky
83. Art Shell OT DT, Maryland State
84. Kenny Easley S, UCLA
85. Ronnie Lott S, USC
86. Eric Dickerson, RB, SMU
87. Dan Dierdorf OT, Michigan
88. Ross Browner DE, Notre Dame
89. Paul Robeson End, Rutgers
90. Leroy Keyes RB, Purdue
91. Randy Moss WR, Marshall
92. Randy Gradishar LB, Ohio State
93. Peyton Manning QB, Tennessee
94. John Hicks OL, Ohio State
95. Frank Sinkwich HB, Georgia
96. Jamar Fletcher CB, Wisconsin
97. Jim McMahon QB, BYU
98. Terrell Buckley CB, Florida State
99. Charlie Justice HB, N. Carolina
100. Rod Woodson DB, Purdue
http://www.americasbestonline.com/cfootball100.htm
Agreed. He is one of the classiest, gracious players to come along in quite a while. A rarity today really.
Well, IF he were the best QB that would put him at 4th. Then if you wanted to make an argument for higher, he has more rushing TDs that Walker. Who is second, and Tebow playes QB, not RB.
Granted, most on the list have an argument for best player in college football history, but Tebow stands up against the best, no doubt about that. And not just statistically. I think it is the other stuff to be honest.
Granted, most on the list have an argument for best player in college football history, but Tebow stands up against the best, no doubt about that. And not just statistically. I think it is the other stuff to be honest.
Nice list, but like ALL list, there can be alot to debate about it.
I for one would NEVER put VY that high on the list.
He COULD be up there because he's still fresh in peoples mind.
Amazing how the SEC cheerleaders here are silent about this one.
We really beat them up - had a legit chance at shutting them out.
Amazing how the SEC cheerleaders here are silent about this one.
We really beat them up - had a legit chance at shutting them out.
Im sorry, sometimes I forget there is anyone that cares about Uconn, so I didnt mention it
Seriously, good game. Yall had their number.:up
Amazing how the SEC cheerleaders here are silent about this one.
We really beat them up - had a legit chance at shutting them out.
I am glad they lost. I hate the "Old Ball Coach".
That's because, except for Florida and Georgia's wins, there's nothing to talk about. Even Auburn needing Overtime over freaking Northwestern not to mention Arkansas also needing OT for lowly East Carolina were nothing to gush about.Amazing how the SEC cheerleaders here are silent about this one.
We really beat them up - had a legit chance at shutting them out.
Going 0-2 against the ACC doesn't help either.
Not a good bowl season for the SEC also rans, that's a fact. (That ACC line was uncalled for though. :rant:
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I had to put it in, heard too much about how the ACC Championship teams lost to SEC teams in their prior games.Not a good bowl season for the SEC also rans, that's a fact. (That ACC line was uncalled for though. :rant:
I had to put it in, heard too much about how the ACC Championship teams lost to SEC teams in their prior games.
And they still did.....
Amazing how the SEC cheerleaders here are silent about this one.
We really beat them up - had a legit chance at shutting them out.
Probably because your conference champion had no business being on the same field as the SEC runner-up.
Seriously though you guys put a good whoopin on the HBC's team, who is probably one of the worst bowl coaches. Congrats:up
Speaking of fields, I heard during the Rose Bowl broadcast that they are planning on tearing up and replacing that field before the MNC! To that I must ask, why?! The field and conditions were perfect! What a waste of money.
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