You need to stop this. Going back and forth always getting the last word in and then saying let's stop there and agree to disagree. It is getting old.
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You need to stop this. Going back and forth always getting the last word in and then saying let's stop there and agree to disagree. It is getting old.
Bryant Gumbel obviously thinks it's his job to make inflammatory racist comments every once in a while. He branded David Stern a 'modern plantation overseer treating NBA players like his boys'.
That's just outrageous and disgraceful.
Sandra
That's just outrageous and disgraceful.
Sandra
Bryant Gumbel obviously thinks it's his job to make inflammatory racist comments every once in a while. He branded David Stern a 'modern plantation overseer treating NBA players like his boys'.
That's just outrageous and disgraceful.
Sandra
All you have to do is go back and read the Memo that Bryant Gumbel wrote about his coworkers back when he was at the Today Show to know what kind of man he is. Thankfully someone at NBC leaked it to the press. He was hated by just about everyone at NBC. And later when he went to CBS , he was hated even more. I can't stand him.
Ramy said:
She answered my post and I answered back. At no point has the discussion in this thread has been flamed. There are several points of this thread we have disagreed and this is one.
SandraC said:Bryant Gumbel obviously thinks it's his job to make inflammatory racist comments every once in a while. He branded David Stern a 'modern plantation overseer treating NBA players like his boys'.
That's just outrageous and disgraceful.
Sandra
Michael Wilbon has also stated that he thinks there is some racial elements going on as well. I agreed with his point...but I disagree with Gumble here because the "boys" he is talking about never averaged $4 million a year.
cosmo_kramer said:
Actually, if you have seen "real sports", it is one of the best sports news shows out there.
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You have old info...$5.15 million per year is the average NBA salary.
It's outrageous and sad for Gumbel to imply that this is a racial situation. It must be offensive for the many people who actually suffer at the hand of racism to listen to someone say these coddled athletes are being discriminated against.
Sandra
I would agree if the show's journalistic efforts broke stories or gave a unique perspective on issues, instead of relying on the ramblings of its host, which are clearly intended to spark outrage and increase ratings.
Let's ask Gumbel: Stern has no problem with these guys when there is a CBA in place. Why is it only racial while there are labor issues??
Here is Wilbons comments:
And there's always the complex and even more divisive element of race. Both the NFL and NBA are predominantly black. But the NFL has never been perceived as a "black league" because it has white megastars in players such as Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and coaches such as Bill Belichick. The NBA, on the other hand, has been perceived exactly as a black league for 30 years, even when it featured the likes of Larry Bird and Bill Walton. A championship team led by a blond, blue-eyed German, Dirk Nowitzki, isn't the same as having an iconic white American superstar on the level of Bird or Jerry West. Nor is a coach in the mold of Phil Jackson or Pat Riley.
And while every generation moves further away from stereotypes, more quickly in sports than just about any other industry, the fact is that NBA players with their guaranteed contracts and lavish lifestyles are the objects of derision much more often than their helmeted and more anonymous peers in the NFL -- who, except for those quarterbacks, make quite a bit less. And besides, people of any race and nationality more closely identify with people who look like them.
Public ridicule and disdain might be force that ends NBA lockout - ESPN
Obviously, you have not seen the show on HBO because they do. He does his OWN little "commentary" that strictly belong to him and him only....the show does not depend his commentary. There are tons of them in Youtube. I highly recommend them because they are very good. Believe me when I tell you, if it strictly about him, many, including yours truly, would not watch.
Yeah, so per Wilbon the 'black' league has the highest average salary...$5.15 million per player...of any league. But clearly Stern is racist.
Anyway, my comment referred to Gumbel's stupid plantation remark, not Wilbon.
Sandra
Never mind...obviously you did not read the entire article because at no point did he stated or insinuate he was a racist.
Never mind...obviously you did not read the entire article because at no point did he stated or insinuate he was a racist.
It's implied. Anyway, let's forget Wilbon's comments and refer to what I was ACTUALLY posting about...
Gumbel's comments. He did not imply. He said.
Sandra
Gumbel seems to have to say something stupid every once in a while. Remember his comments about Gene Upshaw when he was the head of the players union? Basically said Upshaw was Tagliabue's lapdog, and accused Upshaw of being in bed with the league and not doing the right thing for the union.
Sandra
Sandra
Actually, it occurs quite often. From 2006:Gumbel seems to have to say something stupid every once in a while. Remember his comments about Gene Upshaw when he was the head of the players union? Basically said Upshaw was Tagliabue's lapdog, and accused Upshaw of being in bed with the league and not doing the right thing for the union.
Sandra
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cosmo_kramer said:
I cannot believe I am about to stick up for Gumble...but sorry Cosmo, that link had tons more to do with his political views than his views on sports. Irrelevant here because the comments coming from that link is from a conservative standpoint/view.
An though, I too am liberal, you just made me feel dirty for defending his right to his political viewpoint.
Thanks.... ;-p
