NBA Lockout thread
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Whatever.... Ramy...close this puppy...no sense in having it open if you cannot discuss things.
Reportedly if there is no settlement by Monday they will start wiping out regular season games. That's a huge hurdle. When that starts to happen, there is no telling how many regular season games could be wiped out.
I agree with Hart, the NHL survived a season of no hockey and came out much stronger on the other side. Hopefully we don't put that to the test for the NBA also.
Time will tell.
Sandra
I agree with Hart, the NHL survived a season of no hockey and came out much stronger on the other side. Hopefully we don't put that to the test for the NBA also.
Time will tell.
Sandra
they can decide to do that right now. there's no way both sides will come together by monday. at least we have other sports to entertain us.
You are right and the NBA generates more money for all parties than hockey could ever do. I honestly do not think a full season gone will fix the issue. Like in most labor disputes, one side does not trust the other...and when we are talking a 3-4 BILLION dollar business like the NBA...there is gonna be ALOT of mistrust.
The owners are gonna have to sooner or later, do something that will constitute as 'negociating in good faith'....and to me and most of the media that covers the NBA, they have not done that.
Would be interesting to see an actual numbers comparison to the NHL, but don't think that data is really available. I'm glad the NFL and players were never this far apart, and that the players caved when they did.
maybe a revenue split like the nfl would do it??? what was it? 51/49? majority on the owners side? first i read the players offered 50/50. then i read it was the owners who offered that and the players immediately rejected it. which one is it?
The reason that split works in the NFL is the exponential growth the league is currently going through. I am not familiar with projections of the NBA's popularity lockout aside, but I don't think it was expected to double in revenue over the next handful of years.
Not really looking forward to seeing the salary cap double personally, so not a complete fan of that option.
My understanding of the NBA problems is that they are as much if not more of a revenue sharing problem in addition to a labor problem. For the NFL this was a minor side problem that thankfully never ballooned into something bigger.
rey_1178 said:
The revenue is 57-43, unfairly toward the players. The owners want it more towards 52-48 THEIR way. The players had agreed, from what I read, to go down to 53-47, their advantage(adding back some $200 million to the "supposed" $300 million lost by teams), not to mention there was "more room to negociate", as per the players union chief. But alas, the owners wanted to start at more or less what I mentioned above, 52-48% in their favor...and the players said no.
Again, the owners have to earn the players trust if they wanna be partners. The owners in the NFL did that with their players....why can't the NBA owners do the same?
The comparson in numbers is not really the point, though. NFL revenue dwarfs NBA revenue, but NBA owners/players still care about every cent. Same with the NHL.
The point is more that after the NHL sacrificed a season negotiations went a bit differently next time.
Sandra
SandraC said:
I'll give you the above, but we really cannot assume that if it worked for the NHL, it will work for the NBA.
Look how many times MLB had labor issues and every time they had any strike or lockout, it was just as nasty or worse as the previous one.
Players and owners met in a surprise meeting last night for 6 hours. No comment from either side and they will meet again. Rumors are abound that the owners softened up on the 50-50 stance....but I have seen no indications of that.
salsadancer7 said:
What I read this morning is the the money split wasn't even discussed, that they spent all of yesterday dealing with the other issues in dispute.
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dangue said:
That is true, but a read a tweet from Broussard that he had that they might have been some kind of softening in that stance. I will find the tweet...but you are correct in what you say.
Neutron said:
I totally agree, but from all I have read, the owners in reality want more of a 52-48 split to make up for their "supposed" loses in the last couple of years of $300 a piece.
Interesting tweet from Steve Nash:
"why are the owners unwilling to negociate in good faith?...."
Coming from one of the most respected players by both his peers AND the owners.... That says alot...
"why are the owners unwilling to negociate in good faith?...."
Coming from one of the most respected players by both his peers AND the owners.... That says alot...
