We'll probably never know now anyway. He came out of the game yesterday with a sore hip. He may not play again until after the All Star break.
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Agreed about Iglesias, but don't leave Daniel Nava out of the discussion too. He wasn't a lock to make the major league roster during spring training, but has outplayed all expectations all season and has actually put up similar numbers to Freddie Freeman. Nava's numbers: 10 HR, 52 RBI, .293
It sucks that Leyland decided to nominate 5 middle relievers for the vote, instead of adding a couple young, up and coming players instead...
Actually, this perfectly proves my point. If Iglesias played on the west coast, there will probably not be a single mention of him by anybody on this site at all.
After all, you are comparing a guy who has been up and down several times since 2011 to a guy that just made his debut and broke all kinds of 1 week, 2 weeks, and 1 month records.
You are comparing a one dimensional player, mostly known for defense, to that of a highly touted 5 tool player whom has surpassed even what people were touting.
You are comparing a guy whom happens to be hitting well and is filling in, to a guy who has taken over a starting outfield position from 3 All Star outfielders.
You are comparing who has no power and no speed, to a guy that is still hitting well, has lots of power, and lots of speed.
You are comparing a guy that has been in the organization for three years (which does make a huge difference in maturity) to a guy that has been in the organization for a few months.
You are comparing a guy whose career batting average is at its highest it will ever be and yet still about 100 points below that of Puig (yes, Puig's career average will only go down as well).
You are comparing a guy who hits in the bottom of the lineup, and will probably always do so, to a guy that hits in the top of a lineup and will eventually hit in the middle.
What reason is there to tout him?
Great point about Nava!! He wasn't the "can't miss" prospect that Iglesias was either, in fact, he wasn't a prospect at all. Just makes it all the more impressive what he's done.
I'm not comparing Iglesias to Puig......totally different skill set, I get that. You said if Puig played on the East Coast this thread would be 10 pages longer, and I vehemently disagree with that. In fact, I argue that it would be shorter than what we've seen to this point.
Since we are both making predictions about something we cannot prove, the only thing I could say is that I would have to agree to disagree.
Puig is an unbelievable talent but he doesn't deserve to be in the All-Star game, he's only played what? a couple of months? He will be there many times in years to come, he's an awesome player. As far as being arrogant and immature, well with that talent at his age, I think most players would be arrogant. He'll learn his way around the league and his teammates and coaches will help him, just give him some time.
Hey, I'm a Giants fan but very excited to see players with that talent in baseball.
Hey, I'm a Giants fan but very excited to see players with that talent in baseball.
That speaks more about you than him. Judging a player on one series, his worst series to that date, where his batting average at the time dropped from .487 to .479 as he only went 6 for 13 (.461 average), and yet that still didn't impress you?
If I judged McCutchen on that same series alone, I would conclude that he should have been sent down to the minors. He went 3 for 12 (.250). The series at Dodgers stadium he only went 2 for 11 (.182). Combined only 5 for 23 (.217). Yep. I saw McCutchen against the Dodger, didn't impress me at all.
Puig has played in 26% of the games as McCutchen and has only 1 fewer HR than him
But do I post everyday what he did at every at bat? That's the difference.
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Everything I read tells me it is more about maturity, aggressiveness, and learning than it is about arrogance.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/...los-angeles-dodgers-brushes-playing-arrogance
Nobody here has posted everyday what he did every at bat.
Regardless, how is that a reflection on him?
Some say Jeter was rushed back, but this probably could have happened at Scranton as well...
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9473613/derek-jeter-new-york-yankees-strained-quad-all-star-break
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9473613/derek-jeter-new-york-yankees-strained-quad-all-star-break
You don't seem to hear much about this, but overall MLB attendance is down just over 1.6M to this point over the same period last year....
2012 vs. 2013 Attendance
2012 vs. 2013 Attendance
Interesting.
Yet, 1/3 of the clubs have an increase in attendance since last year.
Dodgers average has increased.
Miami has really decreased. 11,000 less per game. Almost twice that of the team with the second largest decrease, Philli.
I know. Exactly.
It would be foolish of me to judge McCutchen's talent and success on three games ignoring his whole career, just at it is silly to judge Puig on three games, ignoring all of his other games. Three games in which one concludes he was not impressive, even though he still batted over .400.
Personally, I would not include Puig in the ASG this year... If he continues to play well he will be on plenty of ASG's list,, but you have to do it for more than a few weeks to get in.
He could be a stud, or by this time next year, we might not even remember his name ... not enough history.
That said, I do like his all out playing style.
He could be a stud, or by this time next year, we might not even remember his name ... not enough history.
That said, I do like his all out playing style.
Ian Kennedy should talk considering that he hit 2 people in the same game which I think was intentional.
I was thinking the same thing. They didn't need Jeter back. Why couldn't they wait for after the All Star Break? He would have had an extra 3 days.
I think the fact there have been a lot of cold weather home games (Colorado, Minnesota) may have something to do with it. I mean when the Mets played the Rockies in April, I think, there was snow on the ground. People figure it must be too cold to go to games. Thats just a guess.
Btw, still surprised about Puig. I thought a lot people liked him, I guess not. Look, he was on the final ballot and lost fair and square. I'm sure a lot of people are mad that Puig is not in the game but listen to this. Fans in Pittsburgh were going to boo David Wright because he didn't pick Alvarez(?) for the Home Run Derby. Help me out but one of the Pirates, I think, over 20 home runs and Wright didnt pick him. Now as of today, Wright did pick him but Pittsburgh fans were up in arms over Home Run Derby.
