MLB 2012-13 off-season notes & transactions
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Loria needs to be jocks trapped as does Jerry Jones does with a dirty one
Guess whose baby brother the Red Sox signed? (Hint: he spent half of last season on the injury list).
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9.5 million for him???????
Cherrington has gone insane.
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It's only a 1 year deal, so that's OK, but I still would be interested to hear what other teams, if any, the Sox were bidding against.
All the good will from the Valentine firing/Farrell hiring has been all washed away with these signings, IMO.
And what exactly is this team's identity? Rebuilding? For the contracts they just handed out, I don't think so. Contenders? With the players that signed those contracts, again I don't think so.
Oh, and then there's this:
Red Sox starting shortstops since the start of '04
2004
Pokey Reese 56
Orlando Cabrera 58
Nomar Garciaparra 37
Cesar Crespo 7
Ricky Gutierrez 3
Mark Bellhorn 1
2005
Edgar Renteria 150
Ramon Vazquez 6
Alex Cora 5
Mark Bellhorn 1
2006
Alex Gonzalez 110
Alex Cora 47
Dustin Pedroia 5
2007
Julio Lugo 139
Alex Cora 22
Royce Clayton 1
2008
Julio Lugo 79
Jed Lowrie 45
Alex Cora 38
2009
Nick Green 74
Alex Gonzalez 43
Julio Lugo 27
Jed Lowrie 18
2010
Marco Scutaro 131
Jed Lowrie 21
Yamaico Navarro 6
Bill Hall 3
Angel Sanchez 1
2011
Marco Scutaro 102
Jed Lowrie 47
Mike Aviles 6
Drew Sutton 4
Yamaico Navarro 2
Jose Iglesias 1
2012
Mike Aviles 123
Jose Iglesias 23
Pedro Ciriaco 11
Nick Punto 5
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And what exactly is this team's identity? Rebuilding? For the contracts they just handed out, I don't think so. Contenders? With the players that signed those contracts, again I don't think so.
Oh, and then there's this:
Red Sox starting shortstops since the start of '04
2004
Pokey Reese 56
Orlando Cabrera 58
Nomar Garciaparra 37
Cesar Crespo 7
Ricky Gutierrez 3
Mark Bellhorn 1
2005
Edgar Renteria 150
Ramon Vazquez 6
Alex Cora 5
Mark Bellhorn 1
2006
Alex Gonzalez 110
Alex Cora 47
Dustin Pedroia 5
2007
Julio Lugo 139
Alex Cora 22
Royce Clayton 1
2008
Julio Lugo 79
Jed Lowrie 45
Alex Cora 38
2009
Nick Green 74
Alex Gonzalez 43
Julio Lugo 27
Jed Lowrie 18
2010
Marco Scutaro 131
Jed Lowrie 21
Yamaico Navarro 6
Bill Hall 3
Angel Sanchez 1
2011
Marco Scutaro 102
Jed Lowrie 47
Mike Aviles 6
Drew Sutton 4
Yamaico Navarro 2
Jose Iglesias 1
2012
Mike Aviles 123
Jose Iglesias 23
Pedro Ciriaco 11
Nick Punto 5
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3 year contract for a 38 year old knuckleballer who might have had a lucky season.... I dunno. I usually like anything that sticks to it to Red Sox, Yankees and Loria but this might be a bust.
Dickey to T.O is now official. Dickey Stats: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dicker.01.shtml
3 winning seasons in 10 years.
3 winning seasons in 10 years.
T.O.... Canada lingo for Toronto. That or the Centre of the Universe. The rest of Canada calls it the centre of the black hole
Toronto likley has the only distinction of all the North American cities to have called in the army after it snowed for 5 inches.
Cheers, K
Toronto likley has the only distinction of all the North American cities to have called in the army after it snowed for 5 inches.
Cheers, K
"Toronto is taking winning the AL East VERY seriously!
Definitely! However, it seems every year one or two teams load up on talent only to bust out during the regular season. In Toronto's case, A lot of pieces were already there and AA just added the missing pieces being the entire starting rotation. I'd like to see them add 1 power bat, maybe at DH. Am surprised that traded Joe Buck to the Mets giving his decent/good batting stats
Definitely! However, it seems every year one or two teams load up on talent only to bust out during the regular season. In Toronto's case, A lot of pieces were already there and AA just added the missing pieces being the entire starting rotation. I'd like to see them add 1 power bat, maybe at DH. Am surprised that traded Joe Buck to the Mets giving his decent/good batting stats
No I am not, he is HORRIBLE. Can't hit his weight to save his life the last few years...
There was talk that the Tigers may have been looking at him, but not sure how serious they were, personally, I'm glad they didn't sign him
I looked over some Toronto home attendance logs, and they seem to have the most elastic fan base. They drew 4 million a year when they were winning, but might only draw 10,000 to 20,000 a game when they are not contending and play a poor draw (Seattle, Kansas City). That seems to indicate that even in good times, they had a smaller than average seasons ticket base. They can draw against the Northeast teams (Yankees, Mets, Red Sox, Phillies) even when they are losing, and they drew 40,000 when Strasburg pitched. Their attendance was under 2 million in recent years but has recently risen above that level even though they haven't been contending.
I came across some dated articles regarding Rogers Communications trying to get the cable rights to MLB in Canada. Did they get them, and does that have any effect on the payroll spending decisions the Blue Jays are making?
As a Red Sox fan, I liked the fact that we always had the second most money to spend, but now, there are two Los Angeles teams, plus Philadelphia, Toronto, maybe Texas, and sometimes the Mets and Detroit, that are competing to see who can contribute the most to salary inflation. Can higher TV rights fees support this? I'm skeptical.
I came across some dated articles regarding Rogers Communications trying to get the cable rights to MLB in Canada. Did they get them, and does that have any effect on the payroll spending decisions the Blue Jays are making?
As a Red Sox fan, I liked the fact that we always had the second most money to spend, but now, there are two Los Angeles teams, plus Philadelphia, Toronto, maybe Texas, and sometimes the Mets and Detroit, that are competing to see who can contribute the most to salary inflation. Can higher TV rights fees support this? I'm skeptical.
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I assume you mean MLB Network? They were approved to carry it just recently (November) but not launched (well it will just be the same US feed but Rogers hasnt "launched" it yet)
They do show games from some of the RSN's though....usually NE teams or Seattle (along with the Jays obviously)
IIRC, RSN shows about 120 games a year.... it should be a full 162 considering the channel and team are under the same ownership. RDS shows all Habs game (basic cable), and about 40-60 MLB games per year including every Sunday night game of the week.
When hosting top tier teams in from the East...there are A LOT of visitor team fans in attendance in TO especially during weekend series.
I remember a Yankee series a few years ago, it felt like a Yankee home game .
Dickey has had three good seasons in a row.
But he is not a typical knuckleballer. He throws hard so his longevity may not be as long as most knuckleballers.
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