MLB 2010 Season

Anyone who talks about real baseball needs to wake up and smell the pine tar.

I'm sure they LOVE it when the bases are loaded and a pitcher who couldn't hit for beans kills a rally for their team.

There's nothing pure about pitchers going 0-5 at the plate in a game. Lather, rinse, repeat.

After all, the N.L. haven't won an All-Star Game in over a decade and have won only 6 World Series since 1990.

Bottom line- the NL may be Real baseball, but it is not baseball that wins games that matter.

Oh snap! SabresRule bringing it STRONG!!! :eek: :D :up
 
From ESPN.com:



Still, he could make that deficiency up in his next start and be back in the records race.

Remember when Doyle Alexander went 11-0 for the Tigers and finished fourth in the race for that whole season's Cy Young Award? The NL All-Star pitching staff will have about 15 pitchers on it. I think that if this young man has two more starts like his first five, he will have made the case that he is one of the fifteen best pitchers in the National League. Once he got a few runners on base, his manager said he had no thoughts of pulling him, because he was the best man he had for that situation.

Herb Score's record remains. Deep sigh of relief. :D
 
DodgerKing said:
Just look at the fundamentals of the game between the Yanks and Dodgers. The Dodgers were beating the Yanks playing the game the way it should be played, with fundamentals and proper bunting.

Too bad Broxton had the worst outing of his career in the 9th

Please. Proper bunting? Lol. How exciting. Why did the dodgers get swept by the Red Sox than? Did they not bunt proper enough? It's talent, something the AAAA, er, NL lacks compared to the AL.

If the Dodgers had to play in the AL, especially the East, they'd be a 90-100 loss team.
 
Please. Proper bunting? Lol. How exciting. Why did the dodgers get swept by the Red Sox than? Did they not bunt proper enough? It's talent, something the AAAA, er, NL lacks compared to the AL.

If the Dodgers had to play in the AL, especially the East, they'd be a 90-100 loss team.
They played AL rules with the Sox, and just like with the Yanks, the Dodgers are playing like crap right now as they are in a hitting slump and their bullpen is overused (which is typical of Torre's poor management skills).

The Dodgers could have easily won 2 of those games if they were so friggen stupid.
 
A rule voted in by a majority and added to the complete set of rules violates another rule?? :confused:

I think the word you're searching for is 'enhances' ;)
It is a direct violation.

DH makes 10 players, not 9 as rule #1 states
DH means the pitcher is being hit for and must come out of the game, as rule #3 states
 
It is a direct violation.

DH makes 10 players, not 9 as rule #1 states
DH means the pitcher is being hit for and must come out of the game, as rule #3 states
On a team using the DH:

When they are at bat, how many players are in the batting order??
When they are on the field, how many players are at their positions??
 
It is a direct violation.

DH makes 10 players, not 9 as rule #1 states
DH means the pitcher is being hit for and must come out of the game, as rule #3 states

Offense and defense are two separate entities.

It is a fact that only 9 players and no more can play defense at one time, but there is no feasible way 9 or 10 players for that matter can play offense at the same time, so that argument holds no weight.
 
Please. Proper bunting? Lol. How exciting. Why did the dodgers get swept by the Red Sox than? Did they not bunt proper enough? It's talent, something the AAAA, er, NL lacks compared to the AL.

If the Dodgers had to play in the AL, especially the East, they'd be a 90-100 loss team.

LMAO!
 
On a team using the DH:

When they are at bat, how many players are in the batting order??
When they are on the field, how many players are at their positions??
9 with one player different for a total of 10 when you combine the two, which is a violation of rule 1.

Even if you want to conclude that there are only 9 playing at any one time, they are still violating rule #3.
 
Offense and defense are two separate entities.

It is a fact that only 9 players and no more can play defense at one time, but there is no feasible way 9 or 10 players for that matter can play offense at the same time, so that argument holds no weight.
That is were you are wrong. One thing about baseball is the offense and defense are supposed to be the same, when one is replaced on offense or defense they are replaced in the game.

The rules clearly state that the same players are supposed to play both offense and defense, and when you substitute for offense or defense the player must leave the game. Following the rule, once the pitcher is supposed the bat and they use a DH, the pitcher must then come out of the game. Clearly stated in rule #3.

The DH rule added later violates both rule #1 and #3. Sorry, but that is a fact.
 
That is were you are wrong. One thing about baseball is the offense and defense are supposed to be the same, when one is replaced on offense or defense they are replaced in the game.

The rules clearly state that the same players are supposed to play both offense and defense, and when you substitute for offense or defense the player must leave the game. Following the rule, once the pitcher is supposed the bat and they use a DH, the pitcher must then come out of the game. Clearly stated in rule #3.

The DH rule added later violates both rule #1 and #3. Sorry, but that is a fact.
Fact?? :eek:

The part you're clearly not comprehending is that rule 6.10 was added to complement those two rules you love bringing up.

From my earlier post, rule 6.10 says this:

A hitter may be designated to bat for the starting pitcher and all subsequent pitchers in any game without otherwise affecting the status of the pitcher(s) in the game.

Think of it like the U.S. Constitution. It started with original articles and has been appended with amendments over the years, yet the original articles remain intact. Similar scenario here....
 
Fact?? :eek:

The part you're clearly not comprehending is that rule 6.10 was added to complement those two rules you love bringing up.

From my earlier post, rule 6.10 says this:
Which directly violates the rules. Even when the AL was having discussions on utilizing a DH in order to gain attendance and increase run production, they all agreed it violated these rules. They added the DH rule despite of that fact
 
Which directly violates the rules. Even when the AL was having discussions on utilizing a DH in order to gain attendance and increase run production, they all agreed it violated these rules. They added the DH rule despite of that fact
Do you have any links or citations to support this??
 
Do you have any links or citations to support this??
From the 1970's? No!

I just watched several documentaries, including Ken Burn's Baseball, on this very issue. They spent a lot of time discussing how they can possibly create a new rule that violates other rules.

This is exactly how I found out that the DH does violate said rules. I did not realize it until I saw a TV documentary showing clips of this very discussion.

Like all bureaucracies, they find a way to violate their own rules by just creating another rule that suits them
 
From the 1970's? No!

I just watched several documentaries, including Ken Burn's Baseball, on this very issue. They spent a lot of time discussing how they can possibly create a new rule that violates other rules.

This is exactly how I found out that the DH does violate said rules. I did not realize it until I saw a TV documentary showing clips of this very discussion.

Like all bureaucracies, they find a way to violate their own rules by just creating another rule that suits them
I didn't think so. I find it hard to believe that owners who supposedly felt so strongly about "rules violations" went ahead and voted in one of the biggest MLB rules changes of that century by an 8-4 vote anyway.

Don't forget, a citation could be quotes from a magazine or newspaper article!!

It's one thing to disagree with the use of the designated hitter; I'm pretty much on the fence about it myself. But, to claim MLB is violating their own rules by adding provisions for the DH to those same rules is almost comical!!!
 
I didn't think so. I find it hard to believe that owners who supposedly felt so strongly about "rules violations" went ahead and voted in one of the biggest MLB rules changes of that century by an 8-4 vote anyway.

Don't forget, a citation could be quotes from a magazine or newspaper article!!

It's one thing to disagree with the use of the designated hitter; I'm pretty much on the fence about it myself. But, to claim MLB is violating their own rules by adding provisions for the DH to those same rules is almost comical!!!
When there is a chance to increase revenue, increase attendance, and provide additional jobs for players, you bet they will find a way to violate their own rules
 
From the 1970's? No!

I just watched several documentaries, including Ken Burn's Baseball, on this very issue. They spent a lot of time discussing how they can possibly create a new rule that violates other rules.

This is exactly how I found out that the DH does violate said rules. I did not realize it until I saw a TV documentary showing clips of this very discussion.

Like all bureaucracies, they find a way to violate their own rules by just creating another rule that suits them

Gee, sounds like NASCAR :rolleyes:
 
DodgerKing said:
When there is a chance to increase revenue, increase attendance, and provide additional jobs for players, you bet they will find a way to violate their own rules

Bottom line. It makes the game better!
 

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