MLB 2010 Season

The best pure hitters will always be in the AL now, because of the DH. The NL plays baseball the way it should be played. Offense, defense and pitching must all be balanced. You really have to manage the game in the NL.

Every other professional or amateur baseball league, including little league uses a DH or EH, I certainly wouldn't consider NL baseball to be the right way to play baseball.
 
After watching 3 weeks of inter-league baseball, I have come to a conclusion. I could never be a day to day fan of an NL team, it is like watching paint dry/


I don't know how anyone could sit and watch the Giants line-up day after day, it has got to be the most boring, offensively challenged line-up in baseball.
So I can then judge the AL based on the lineup of the Mariners?

NL baseball is real baseball as it was intended to be played
 
Every other professional or amateur baseball league, including little league uses a DH or EH, I certainly wouldn't consider NL baseball to be the right way to play baseball.
Every other league does it wrong. Heck, why not just DH every position?

BTW, you would not have had a chance to see Lester hit a 420 foot sac fly (which would have been a grandslam in any other park) if they used a DH
 
Anyone who talks about real baseball needs to wake up and smell the pine tar.

I'm sure they LOVE it when the bases are loaded and a pitcher who couldn't hit for beans kills a rally for their team.

There's nothing pure about pitchers going 0-5 at the plate in a game. Lather, rinse, repeat.

After all, the N.L. haven't won an All-Star Game in over a decade and have won only 6 World Series since 1990.

Bottom line- the NL may be Real baseball, but it is not baseball that wins games that matter.
 
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Anyone who talks about real baseball needs to wake up and smell the pine tar.

I'm sure they LOVE it when the bases are loaded and a pitcher who couldn't hit for beans kills a rally for their team.

There's nothing pure about pitchers going 0-5 at the plate in a game. Lather, rinse, repeat.

After all, the N.L. haven't won an All-Star Game in over a decade and have won only 6 World Series since 1990.

Bottom line- the NL may be Real baseball, but it is not baseball that wins games that matter.

The time that the pitcher gets up and gets that hit with the bases loaded though is well worth the wait, because nobody expects it. Then you also have the Reds who have a reliever who can knock the snot out of the ball.
 
The time that the pitcher gets up and gets that hit with the bases loaded though is well worth the wait, because nobody expects it. Then you also have the Reds who have a reliever who can knock the snot out of the ball.
And when is the last time you saw a double-switch in the AL? The NL manager has to conserve his resources and make draconian decisions when the game is on the line. Pitchers have to bunt effectively, hitters must field their position, the pinch-hitters and the relievers are essential. These are the nuances of the beautiful game that the AL has sacrificed in the name of more runs. The AL has made the game easier to understand, but harder to love.
 
The best pure hitters will always be in the AL now, because of the DH. The NL plays baseball the way it should be played. Offense, defense and pitching must all be balanced. You really have to manage the game in the NL.

I love the Junior Circuit and my Twins, but the DH is an abomination!
 
Anyone who talks about real baseball needs to wake up and smell the pine tar.

I'm sure they LOVE it when the bases are loaded and a pitcher who couldn't hit for beans kills a rally for their team.

There's nothing pure about pitchers going 0-5 at the plate in a game. Lather, rinse, repeat.

After all, the N.L. haven't won an All-Star Game in over a decade and have won only 6 World Series since 1990.

Bottom line- the NL may be Real baseball, but it is not baseball that wins games that matter.
What is the excuse when your cleanup hitter hits into a DP with the bases loaded? Should we DH for him as well?

I have seen some neat stuff happen when pitchers are up with the bases loaded.

Look, the DH rule violates the first rule in baseball as well as the 3rd rule.

"1.0 Baseball is a game between two teams of nine players each, under direction of a manager, played on an enclosed field in accordance with these rules, under jurisdiction of one or more umpires."

A DH makes 10, not 9

"3.03 A player, or players, may be substituted during a game at any time the ball is dead. A substitute player shall bat in the replaced player’s position in the team’s batting order. A player once removed from a game shall not re-enter that game. If a substitute enters the game in place of a player-manager, the manager may thereafter go to the coaching lines at his discretion. When two or more substitute players of the defensive team enter the game at the same time, the manager shall, immediately before they take their positions as fielders, designate to the umpire-in-chief such players’ positions in the team’s batting order and the umpire-in-chief shall so notify the official scorer. If this information is not immediately given to the umpire-in-chief, he shall have authority to designate the substitutes’ places in the batting order."

A batter batting for a pitcher must then replace that pitcher and the pitcher shall not re-enter the game. If a pitcher pitches 9 innings using a DH, technically he violated the rule a minimum of 3 times.
 
And when is the last time you saw a double-switch in the AL? The NL manager has to conserve his resources and make draconian decisions when the game is on the line. Pitchers have to bunt effectively, hitters must field their position, the pinch-hitters and the relievers are essential. These are the nuances of the beautiful game that the AL has sacrificed in the name of more runs. The AL has made the game easier to understand, but harder to love.
Just look at the fundamentals of the game between the Yanks and Dodgers. The Dodgers were beating the Yanks playing the game the way it should be played, with fundamentals and proper bunting.

Too bad Broxton had the worst outing of his career in the 9th
 
And when is the last time you saw a double-switch in the AL? The NL manager has to conserve his resources and make draconian decisions when the game is on the line. Pitchers have to bunt effectively, hitters must field their position, the pinch-hitters and the relievers are essential. These are the nuances of the beautiful game that the AL has sacrificed in the name of more runs. The AL has made the game easier to understand, but harder to love.

Bingo! Could not have stated it better myself.:up And best post to a current subject I have read in this place in a long time!
 
And when is the last time you saw a double-switch in the AL? The NL manager has to conserve his resources and make draconian decisions when the game is on the line. Pitchers have to bunt effectively, hitters must field their position, the pinch-hitters and the relievers are essential. These are the nuances of the beautiful game that the AL has sacrificed in the name of more runs. The AL has made the game easier to understand, but harder to love.

Aren't we both agreeing? NL FTW!!!
 
The Fifth Day of Strassmas was disappointing. 6.1 innings, 3 earned runs, seven strikeouts. In spite of that, he still might have set a record for most strikeouts in his first five starts. He had the record for most in his first four starts, beating Carl Hubbell or some other dead guy by one.
 
Look, the DH rule violates the first rule in baseball as well as the 3rd rule.

"1.0 Baseball is a game between two teams of nine players each, under direction of a manager, played on an enclosed field in accordance with these rules, under jurisdiction of one or more umpires."

A DH makes 10, not 9

"3.03 A player, or players, may be substituted during a game at any time the ball is dead. A substitute player shall bat in the replaced player’s position in the team’s batting order. A player once removed from a game shall not re-enter that game. If a substitute enters the game in place of a player-manager, the manager may thereafter go to the coaching lines at his discretion. When two or more substitute players of the defensive team enter the game at the same time, the manager shall, immediately before they take their positions as fielders, designate to the umpire-in-chief such players’ positions in the team’s batting order and the umpire-in-chief shall so notify the official scorer. If this information is not immediately given to the umpire-in-chief, he shall have authority to designate the substitutes’ places in the batting order."

A batter batting for a pitcher must then replace that pitcher and the pitcher shall not re-enter the game. If a pitcher pitches 9 innings using a DH, technically he violated the rule a minimum of 3 times.
We've been through this with you before. You seem to forget about rule 6.10:

Any League may elect to use the Designated Hitter Rule.
(a) In the event of inter-league competition between clubs of Leagues using the Designated Hitter Rule and clubs of Leagues not using the Designated Hitter Rule, the rule will be used as follows:
1. In World Series or exhibition games, the rule will be used or not used as is the practice of the home team.
2. In All-Star games, the rule will only be used if both teams and both Leagues so agree.
(b) The Rule provides as follows:
A hitter may be designated to bat for the starting pitcher and all subsequent pitchers in any game without otherwise affecting the status of the pitcher(s) in the game. A Designated Hitter for the pitcher must be selected prior to the game and must be includedin the lineup cards presented to the Umpire in Chief.
The designated hitter named in the starting lineup must come to bat at least one time, unless the opposing club changes pitchers.
It is not mandatory that a club designate a hitter for the pitcher, but failure to do so prior to the game precludes the use of a Designated Hitter for that game.
Pinch hitters for a Designated Hitter may be used. Any substitute hitter for a Designated Hitter becomes the Designated Hitter. A replaced Designated Hitter shall not re-enter the game in any capacity.
 
...(Strassburg) still might have set a record for most strikeouts in his first five starts. He had the record for most in his first four starts, beating Carl Hubbell or some other dead guy by one.

From ESPN.com:

He struck out seven, leaving him two shy of matching Herb Score's record of 50 in his first five starts.

Still, he could make that deficiency up in his next start and be back in the records race.

Remember when Doyle Alexander went 11-0 for the Tigers and finished fourth in the race for that whole season's Cy Young Award? The NL All-Star pitching staff will have about 15 pitchers on it. I think that if this young man has two more starts like his first five, he will have made the case that he is one of the fifteen best pitchers in the National League. Once he got a few runners on base, his manager said he had no thoughts of pulling him, because he was the best man he had for that situation.
 
From ESPN.com:



Still, he could make that deficiency up in his next start and be back in the records race.

Remember when Doyle Alexander went 11-0 for the Tigers and finished fourth in the race for that whole season's Cy Young Award? The NL All-Star pitching staff will have about 15 pitchers on it. I think that if this young man has two more starts like his first five, he will have made the case that he is one of the fifteen best pitchers in the National League. Once he got a few runners on base, his manager said he had no thoughts of pulling him, because he was the best man he had for that situation.

his last two outing were losses and he didn't pitch as well and you STILL want him in the 20 minute HOF ?
 

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