Yeah...this is the way it is with ESPN3, HBO go.com and I guess Foxgo.com.....In order to get these things, one must be a subscriber on a pay tv provider to those services.
FOX News Channel/DISH dispute
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"Executives at Dish say Fox is playing hardball with them by attempting to use the news channel as leverage to increase fees for their sports and entertainment channels normally covered by separate contracts.
“It’s like we’re about to close on a house and the realtor is trying to make us buy a new car as well,” said Warren Schlichting, Dish Network’s Senior Vice President of programming. “Fox blacked out two of its news channels, using them as leverage to triple rates on sports and entertainment channels that are not in this contract.”
I posted it last night or early this morning, not sure any more. Been a long couple of work days
http://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/threads/fox-news-channel-dish-dispute.344868/page-10#post-3588217
That same quote was in the news release from Dish..I subscribed to their email list several years ago...
In any event, that is Dish's perspective. I would hope to see BOTH sides of the argument between the two firms
Not it's not "alright"....It's business. Christmas will pass and business is business.
I may not agree with it, but I understand it.
There's Dish, there Fox, there's 500 feet of crap. Then there is us....The consumer.
It is a fact, do the math. Let's say that 300 million people live in the U.S. 1% is 3 million people. I was being gracious with the stat because Fox News does not have 3 million viewers. Worse yet, the viewers they do have are overwhelmingly old and white. No need to read anything into my statement, just look at the numbers.
I suspect the Fox viewership numbers on Dish are higher because Dish caters to the rural, white, older parts of the country. Where I live, a place where 7 out 10 people vote Republican and Jesus has a club on every corner, I suspect the Fox viewership numbers are quite high.
This is not the place to get into what I think of Fox News. In our home, their channels, along with the plethora of church channels, have been banished from the guide via a favorite list. They have been raptured away, never to be seen again.
You appear to be reading just short snippets of this thread. The issue of FS1, FXX has already been noted in this thread. That is the problem we are having with Newscorp right now.
No. They are using those channels ratings as leverage for FS1 and FXX. As I noted before Disney didn't black out ESPN. Newscorp blacked out FNC. Place your anger at the appropriate target. Newscorp is using you as a bargaining chip to get more money for channels you may not even watch.
Not political commentary, just facts.
Yes, more young people watch Fox but it is more of the young people that watch TV news watch Fox. Most of the younger demographic do not watch TV news at all. So Fox is the leader of a part of a small percentage of young people that watch TV news. Woo hoo!
Six grown kids, three daughter in laws. None of them watch TV news. Three of my six kids have Dish. Again, none of them watch TV news. They go to the Internet for their news.
I am quite happy to play the numbers game if you wish to. When you say Fox is leading you need to answer, leading what? The fact is, 99% of Americans do not watch Fox News nor do they watch CNN or MSNBC.
This has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with mathematics. Personally, I would have no problem if Dish told all the news channels to take a hike. I don't watch any if them. I read the news on the Internet every day from multiple websites/blogs. Outside of Jon Stewart, I watch no politically oriented TV programming.
Thanks for posting this. I have been referencing this news in earlier posts , but didn't have the actual link.
Rusticus has a point. I don't watch Fox, but if I am scanning channels, I sometimes stop on Fox. They know how to pick some leggie beauties. That Kelley is HOT.
The only way to avoid these disputes is to cut the cable and get an antenna. Can't help when contracts expire and they don't want them to extend while negotiations for the new ones are on going. This is the road the market has put us on. It's not going to change anytime soon for anyone.
Some of the headlines you guys are linking to are really irking me. Dish didn't "ban" Fox. Fox is not allowing them to keep the channel on while they hash out a new deal. I guess that doesn't make as sexy a headline.
here's why in my opinion that Fox and Dish are in dispute mode now for Fox News and Fox Business
reason #1: contract expire and Dish and Fox are trying to get the channels restored as possible, but they haven't reached a idea price on both sides.
reason #2: Digital streaming access for Dish Customers for FXnow and The Simpsons World App and Fox Sports Go and other streaming of Fox owned networks that Dish doesn't have a deal to allow access to see the content on the online streams,
reason #3: other Fox Channels contract might be set to expire soon and Fox wanted to raise their rates and bundle the channels together in this cycle of deal negotiations. FX, FSN RSNs and Nat Geo were affected by a dispute, which caused a 4 week blackout in October 2010, which was finally settled when the Fox Owned and Operated stations finally went into play as their contract was set to expire at the end of October of that year.
and final reason: the Hopper related lawsuits, reasons 1-3 were Pro-Fox, this reason is Pro-Dish, as after Dish made an announcement that the Hooper would have a revolutionary feature known as Prime-Time Anytime, which had a feature where you can auto hop thought the ads to get back to the prime time show you are watching. Fox, CBS and Disney (owners of ABC) weren't happy about this feature and sued Dish. Disney and CBS were Fox's allies in their legal war with Dish, but both Disney and CBS caved over this feature so now you have to wait 3 days for ABC prime-time shows to be auto-hop past an ad break while CBS has a full week of waiting until you get that feature active for their prime-time programs. with CBS and Disney caving and were now ok with Prime-Time Anytime, this left Fox as the only one still in legal action with Dish. if Dish and Fox reach an new agreement for Fox News and Fox Business, it could be possible that all legal cases related to Fox vs. Dish would end via settlement and an agreement being reached.
that's my reasons why the blackout is happening.
reason #1: contract expire and Dish and Fox are trying to get the channels restored as possible, but they haven't reached a idea price on both sides.
reason #2: Digital streaming access for Dish Customers for FXnow and The Simpsons World App and Fox Sports Go and other streaming of Fox owned networks that Dish doesn't have a deal to allow access to see the content on the online streams,
reason #3: other Fox Channels contract might be set to expire soon and Fox wanted to raise their rates and bundle the channels together in this cycle of deal negotiations. FX, FSN RSNs and Nat Geo were affected by a dispute, which caused a 4 week blackout in October 2010, which was finally settled when the Fox Owned and Operated stations finally went into play as their contract was set to expire at the end of October of that year.
and final reason: the Hopper related lawsuits, reasons 1-3 were Pro-Fox, this reason is Pro-Dish, as after Dish made an announcement that the Hooper would have a revolutionary feature known as Prime-Time Anytime, which had a feature where you can auto hop thought the ads to get back to the prime time show you are watching. Fox, CBS and Disney (owners of ABC) weren't happy about this feature and sued Dish. Disney and CBS were Fox's allies in their legal war with Dish, but both Disney and CBS caved over this feature so now you have to wait 3 days for ABC prime-time shows to be auto-hop past an ad break while CBS has a full week of waiting until you get that feature active for their prime-time programs. with CBS and Disney caving and were now ok with Prime-Time Anytime, this left Fox as the only one still in legal action with Dish. if Dish and Fox reach an new agreement for Fox News and Fox Business, it could be possible that all legal cases related to Fox vs. Dish would end via settlement and an agreement being reached.
that's my reasons why the blackout is happening.
Because of the direction that this thread has taken, I have a question. Is there a way to put a person that posts on here on ignore? I grow tired of being pounded with religion just to make a point. Please, someone show me where the ignore button can be found. I've had enough.
click on your username at top of page and click on people you ignore, add their name to the list and save
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