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This is another famous case of attempting to cover up wrongdoings, only to have it magnified many years later. When will people in this position learn that we for the most part are forgiving, and if this abuse was reported and actions were taken when they first happened, legacies would be preserved, and in this case, more importantly, children would have been saved from this horror??
 
cosmo_kramer said:
This is another famous case of attempting to cover up wrongdoings, only to have it magnified many years later. When will people in this position learn that we for the most part are forgiving, and if this abuse was reported and actions were taken when they first happened, legacies would be preserved, and in this case, more importantly, children would have been saved from this horror??
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This is the truth...but...and this is NOT a defense of Paterno, just stating what I think may be the facts of the time.

We are a forgiving people, but so many people have always brought up Paterno as this shining beacon of light in the sludge factory that is college sports. If this broke in 2002, when it should have (or even in 1998? I don't have all my facts straight), the shining light would have at the very least been dimmed.

Recruiting could have been affected, and at the time the university was already looking for a reason to get rid of Paterno, but they couldn't. This could have given them ammunition. That may be how he looked at it.


Sandra
 
SandraC said:
This is the truth...but...and this is NOT a defense of Paterno, just stating what I think may be the facts of the time.

We are a forgiving people, but so many people have always brought up Paterno as this shining beacon of light in the sludge factory that is college sports. If this broke in 2002, when it should have (or even in 1998? I don't have all my facts straight), the shining light would have at the very least been dimmed.

Recruiting could have been affected, and at the time the university was already looking for a reason to get rid of Paterno, but they couldn't. This could have given them ammunition. That may be how he looked at it.


Sandra
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Nothing is as perfect as it seems. If it's too good to be true, usually it is. If PSU has covered up child abuse, who knows what else they covered up.
 
SandraC said:
This is the truth...but...and this is NOT a defense of Paterno, just stating what I think may be the facts of the time.

We are a forgiving people, but so many people have always brought up Paterno as this shining beacon of light in the sludge factory that is college sports. If this broke in 2002, when it should have (or even in 1998? I don't have all my facts straight), the shining light would have at the very least been dimmed.

Recruiting could have been affected, and at the time the university was already looking for a reason to get rid of Paterno, but they couldn't. This could have given them ammunition. That may be how he looked at it.


Sandra
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Dimmed for sure, but Paterno most likely would have been respected for taking swift action and probably still could have retired on his own terms. Now, he's seen by many as an enabler of what happened....
 
Paterno just doesn't get it. Look at the statement he made yesterday morning.

Penn State Nittany Lions' Joe Paterno to retire at end of season - ESPN
"That's why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can.
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While everyone is learning that more children were victimized by this monster, here's Paterno telling the Board of Trustees what to do (or in this case not do). It's all about him and his legacy. I'd like to think that all of this would have taught him a life lesson, but I think he's too far down the road of his own cult of personality to learn life lessons.
 
Will94 said:
Paterno just doesn't get it. Look at the statement he made yesterday morning.

Penn State Nittany Lions' Joe Paterno to retire at end of season - ESPN

While everyone is learning that more children were victimized by this monster, here's Paterno telling the Board of Trustees what to do (or in this case not do). It's all about him and his legacy. I'd like to think that all of this would have taught him a life lesson, but I think he's too far down the road of his own cult of personality to learn life lessons.
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Absolutely right. His legacy is all that matters to him. As always Paterno tried to dictate his own terms...but it didn't work this time.


Sandra
 
cosmo_kramer said:
Dimmed for sure, but Paterno most likely would have been respected for taking swift action and probably still could have retired on his own terms. Now, he's seen by many as an enabler of what happened....
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Totally agree cosmo. As I said, not defending him, just trying to figure out what he may have been thinking at the time.


Sandra
 
40 years ago kids at Kent State protested and were killed in the name of peace. Today, kids are protesting at Penn State for a sexual abuse enabler. Times, they are a changing.....
 
Here's a very real question. Penn State is an absolute madhouse right now. Every senior official with any knowledge of this scandal will and should be fired. Celebrating during pep rally's and carrying on as if nothing happened would be insensitive. In the grande scheme of things, Football is NOT important compared to the stakes at hand.

Should Penn State go ahead and just cancel the rest of the season?
 
Hey Penn State students, while you joke about tragedy, one of your classmates is the sister of one of the alleged victims....

“I’ve been going to minimal classes, because every class I go to I get sick to my stomach. People are making jokes about it. I understand they don’t know I’m involved and it was my brother, but it’s still really hard to swallow that.”
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Sister of Jerry Sandusky victim talks about the pain of life at Penn State where students are joking about being 'Sanduskied' | PennLive.com
 
HD MM said:
Should Penn State go ahead and just cancel the rest of the season?
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Man that is a tough one because they ONLY ones that would really lose and actually be punished would be the players. I am gonna assume they had no clue to all of this going on. Morally, I would say YES...cancel the rest of the season. But for the players, I would say no.

Toughest question ever asked here HD....
 
juan said:
Why would (the victims) sister want to go to penn state?
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last few paragraphs of article...


Along with being one of the most historic days for the Nittany Lion nation, Wednesday also marked 100 days until Thon, the annual dance marathon that brings in several millions dollars in cancer research money.

The cause is a big part of why the victim’s sister chose Penn State. Cancer is in her family.

“Penn State isn’t Sandusky. He’s a very small part,” she said. “Penn State did enable him, and I am ashamed of that. But I don’t blame people that didn’t know about it, and I certainly don’t blame the student body. Penn State’s getting a bad rap, when it was really just the mistakes of a few men.”
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HD MM said:
Here's a very real question. Penn State is an absolute madhouse right now. Every senior official with any knowledge of this scandal will and should be fired. Celebrating during pep rally's and carrying on as if nothing happened would be insensitive. In the grande scheme of things, Football is NOT important compared to the stakes at hand.

Should Penn State go ahead and just cancel the rest of the season?
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Good question...I say no. They should play.

I get what you're saying and it's a fair argument, but I disagree that a pep rally for the football team is insensitive...as long as it stays about FOOTBALL.

Football can and should go on. This ridiculous blind support for Paterno should not.


Sandra
 
If you could stomach reading the Grand Jury report you would see the testimony of a current PSU assistant coach, then grad assistant, Mike McQueary. There has to be something to happen to this guy too...

What would you do?

What if you were a late 20’s graduate assistant looking to move up the collegiate coaching ranks, and saw an extremely respected superior raping a young boy?

Would you try and break up the altercation? Would you pull the fire alarm? Would you call the police?

Or would you run away and call your dad?

Mike McQueary chose option No. 4, which was his natural reaction.

Sure, it was a horrendous decision. Sure, there are a million ethically and moral questions you can ask regarding his actions, but it brings up a bigger point.

McQueary decided he didn’t want to hurt the team, coaching staff and university over saving a helpless 10-year-old that is now scarred for life.
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Mike McQueary Penn State: Assistant's Reaction Exposes Culture of Happy Valley | Bleacher Report
 
SandraC said:
This ridiculous blind support for Paterno should not.


Sandra
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At the end of the day he didn't do the crime...his only fault and I'm sure there are many many more that are at fault for not doing enough if he knew just a fraction of what was going on but its hard to make the right decisions that others think you should make. Him being fired will only kill him.. I bet he doesn't live another 2 years after this from all the stress it will create on him and his family.
 
I think the students at PSU are protesting for Paterno because they probably don't know all of the facts. They're probably thinking that Paterno doing nothing was a good thing and that he shouldn't have been fired when in fact by Paterno saying nothing, he made the situation a thousand times worse. But the students are either too stupid or too blinded by their love for Paterno to realize that fact, which doesn't surprise me. If I was a college student going to PSU, I wouldn't be protesting. I'd be getting the hell out of there until things calm down.
 
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