The lady that works at the ACC is probably burning up her vacation before she has no job in 6 months...
Don't Believe NPS about C band support ending.
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I would still be skeptical but after Skyvision told me it was true it must be. I'm sure Mike Kohl will be talking about it on Sat Talk this Friday.
I still have months left on my 4D programming packages and I'm not jumping ship. Any decision I make will be an informed one. If it wasn't for the other household members I probably wouldn't bother do anything right away. Anything involving a 2 year contract isn't happening either.
It appears the title of this thread may not have been the most prophetic. I wouldn't doubt NPS hastened the demise of 4DTV, but the handwriting has been on the wall for quite sometime. No new receiver technology has come down the pike. Not surprisingly this translated to fewer and fewer channels as providers switched to more advanced transmission schemes our receivers cannot demodulate. For me the loss of any meaningful HD was the final nail in the coffin.
People here are quite well informed and I'm sure almost everyone has a pretty good idea which direction they will take if the 'verbal' rumblings from Motorola turn out to be true. Once HBO HD 'disappeared' from 4DTV last year, I found myself in a rather uncomfortable position. I had been a DN subscriber for quite some time, and 4DTV was my relief from the rather mediocre HD quality DN offered. It wasn't as though DTV was really any different.
I kept my DN subscription, but backed down on the add-ons. With the savings and the 4DTV costs repurposed, I tried Shaw Direct. It may not last, but their data rates on a number of the premium channels are actually quite high and their compressors appear to be tuned to dole out considerably higher rates when the scenes require this. These HD channels look much better than some of the HD premiums did on 4DTV. It is my understanding that Shaw uses their DBS birds to feed some of their cable head-ends, and this may make their satellite subscriptions about the closest one will be able to get to subscribable master feeds of days gone by.
People here are quite well informed and I'm sure almost everyone has a pretty good idea which direction they will take if the 'verbal' rumblings from Motorola turn out to be true. Once HBO HD 'disappeared' from 4DTV last year, I found myself in a rather uncomfortable position. I had been a DN subscriber for quite some time, and 4DTV was my relief from the rather mediocre HD quality DN offered. It wasn't as though DTV was really any different.
I kept my DN subscription, but backed down on the add-ons. With the savings and the 4DTV costs repurposed, I tried Shaw Direct. It may not last, but their data rates on a number of the premium channels are actually quite high and their compressors appear to be tuned to dole out considerably higher rates when the scenes require this. These HD channels look much better than some of the HD premiums did on 4DTV. It is my understanding that Shaw uses their DBS birds to feed some of their cable head-ends, and this may make their satellite subscriptions about the closest one will be able to get to subscribable master feeds of days gone by.
You're not alone.Don't care for sports programming myself
.I'll also be getting the 410 before the end of the year. I get the W5 superpack and the G1 HBOs right now so no loss of channels for me. This is still very upsetting to me though.I've had a big dish since 1983.
4dtv
I will keep my BUD and 4dtv after the change. Reason is a dish mover. Need information on how to manual map 4dtv.
I will keep my BUD and 4dtv after the change. Reason is a dish mover. Need information on how to manual map 4dtv.
4dtv fix
Years ago there was a 4DTV mapping fix. you connected a cable between computer and receiver. This was legal because it only added channels to receiver and not compromise the security system. We could get DMX music and other free channels back if this happened again. The problem is Mot has not kept the map up to date.
Years ago there was a 4DTV mapping fix. you connected a cable between computer and receiver. This was legal because it only added channels to receiver and not compromise the security system. We could get DMX music and other free channels back if this happened again. The problem is Mot has not kept the map up to date.
Skyvision rep said 4dtv dead by yearend
I have been with c band many years now back when there was a customer could pick and choose a good provider. will i read all the chat and received the call from NPS and believed them so i told the NPS rep that i did not believe them that Motorola would shutdown 4dtv. so i called skyvision and order up a package. the rep told me that they are only taking 3 month subscription because they got a call from Motorola stating that they are shutting down 4dtv. now i am still hoping that this is all in error, i have enjoyed my c band 4dtv for the past decade +. I still have a pansat 2700a and will use it but i dread the thought of going to the small dish big prices.
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I have been with c band many years now back when there was a customer could pick and choose a good provider. will i read all the chat and received the call from NPS and believed them so i told the NPS rep that i did not believe them that Motorola would shutdown 4dtv. so i called skyvision and order up a package. the rep told me that they are only taking 3 month subscription because they got a call from Motorola stating that they are shutting down 4dtv. now i am still hoping that this is all in error, i have enjoyed my c band 4dtv for the past decade +. I still have a pansat 2700a and will use it but i dread the thought of going to the small dish big prices.
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I can't help wondering if there is some kind of negotiating going on somewhere with Motorola? Like maybe some other company may want to take over?
i mention last year on another forum we cbanders should have started a coop and banded together. im thinking instead of 4dtv maybe we could have got together with pansat or others and have them make a box that could do PowerVu. and kept are big dishes up and running
I guess my days of sitting in front of the TV are coming to an end unless there's something to watch on FTA. I might go buy a new bluray player or TV that can stream Netflix movies to my TV.
Back in 2007 I bought my 410 and used it for almost a year and almost regretted buying it because I stopped using it (when I got new 4D equipment). I even tried to sell it for a loss and no one seemed to want it. Now I'm glad I still have it. After thinking about this for a few days, it's back to the 410 for me after D day.
I have a 405 here for Starchoice FTA it's identical. What Skyvision should do is allow any of those type receivers 410, 405 etc to get in the game, if they want to keep in the C band programming business. Otherwise numbers will continue to fall and the 410's will be bricks too.
Part of my reasoning for sticking with the format is that not only do I already own the necessary equipment and sub to similar programming, it helps companies like SRL and Skyvision to remain around. Just doing my part.
The end is probably still near but delayed a bit. This turn of events can't be good for the other businesses either that rely on our support and causes a ripple effect right down to the equipment suppliers.
It's curious that the 410s will continue on. That sort of surprised me, maybe as much as the 410 program even came about in 2007 out of nowhere. It shows what solutions and ideas go on behind closed doors.
I'm guessing it's because of the association with HITS and what the equipment was originally used for and that isn't ending just yet. I hoping in time we get a little more flexibility in the packages. They aren't quite the same as the 4D choices but relatively close. I suppose in the end the numbers will make or break it.
Technically speaking, I see no good reason why the 4D receivers couldn't be remapped for use on the W5 stream anyhow. Maybe someone will rethink that. Does the ACC control the HITS system? If they don't, who does? Who maintains the authorization on the commercial DC2 headend equipment if the ACC doesn't?
The end is probably still near but delayed a bit. This turn of events can't be good for the other businesses either that rely on our support and causes a ripple effect right down to the equipment suppliers.
It's curious that the 410s will continue on. That sort of surprised me, maybe as much as the 410 program even came about in 2007 out of nowhere. It shows what solutions and ideas go on behind closed doors.
I'm guessing it's because of the association with HITS and what the equipment was originally used for and that isn't ending just yet. I hoping in time we get a little more flexibility in the packages. They aren't quite the same as the 4D choices but relatively close. I suppose in the end the numbers will make or break it.
Technically speaking, I see no good reason why the 4D receivers couldn't be remapped for use on the W5 stream anyhow. Maybe someone will rethink that. Does the ACC control the HITS system? If they don't, who does? Who maintains the authorization on the commercial DC2 headend equipment if the ACC doesn't?
> Maybe we could have got together with pansat or others and have them make a box that could do PowerVu.
Unlikely. S/A aka Cisco is highly unlikely to license its technology to any one else. (The exception being Motorola). Its the only way they can ensure that the encryption is less likely to be compromised, and with Pansats record, they have no chance at all.
Unlikely. S/A aka Cisco is highly unlikely to license its technology to any one else. (The exception being Motorola). Its the only way they can ensure that the encryption is less likely to be compromised, and with Pansats record, they have no chance at all.
maybe they can add these to the w5 stuff Motorola DSR-470 Digital Receivers 3 Units with Remotes - eBay (item 220625883334 end time Jun-28-10 08:55:43 PDT) seem to be a newer receiver
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