Dish quarterly profit misses on pay-TV subscriber losses . . .

[ncted]

I don't know about MO either. I'm in Kansas.

Doing something like that (county installing dark fiber) would probably be regarded as borderline communism or some such! I won't hold out much hope for anything like that here.

Oops! Sorry.

The state lawmakers tried to keep the counties from getting the FCC money at first, but then the ISPs told them to stop since they were getting essentially free access to fiber and won't have to deal with the same regulatory hurdles as putting in the infrastructure themselves.

 

[dare2be]

Isn't dark fiber how you access the dark web. No wonder so many are against it.

 

[camo]

I think streaming is still in its infancy of expanding. Not one person I've ever spoken to knows about YTTV for example. When I say I stream TV their reaction is losing local news, Husker football. When I explain its all available at $45 a month they act surprised.

Areas like this will hold onto satellite and cable TV for a long time. Change isn't in their DNA.

 

[comfortably_numb]

I think streaming is still in its infancy of expanding. Not one person I've ever spoken to knows about YTTV for example. When I say I stream TV their reaction is losing local news, Husker football. When I explain its all available at $45 a month they act surprised.

Areas like this will hold onto satellite and cable TV for a long time. Change isn't in their DNA.

That's just like the people who actually think receiving TV via an antenna is "illegal!"

 

[eddie willers]

When I say I stream TV their reaction is losing local news, Husker football. When I explain its all available at $45 a month they act surprised.

Nebraska: The N stands for Nowledge.
(oldie but goodie)

 

[mwdxer1]

That's just like the people who actually think receiving TV via an antenna is "illegal!"

The issue is that as things change and satellite/cable subs continue to drop, will Dish, Direct, Cable be able to have enough revenue to keep things status quo? I am sure the number of subs will even out in time, but it costs so much to keep those satellites up there. People have more choices now and they are not stuck to have satellite/cable to have TV. For years here it was one cable company. There was no OTA. The OTA picture if you could get it was snowy. Then in the 90s we got Direct TV, then after that Dish, we added in 3 OTA analog translators (ABC/CBS/FOX). Then about 6-7 years ago the OTA translators went digital, giving us now 16 OTA channels. Now we have streaming. I live in NW rural Oregon too. Much of what used to be available in metro areas are getting out to rural areas now.

 

[mwdxer1]

I had an early Betamax with a wired remote. Got burglarized, still in the box. I replaced it later with a wireless VHS.

I still have an old Beta machine and video tapes going back to the mid 70s. I still need to dub a lot of that rare material over to DVD. I went from Beta, Beta Hifi, VHS hifi, DVD, and streaming.

 

[ncted]

it costs so much to keep put those satellites up there.

Fixed that for you.

 

[dare2be]

That's just like the people who actually think receiving TV via an antenna is "illegal!"

Or the $2 bill is counterfeit.

 

[Nate Bargmann]

That's just like the people who actually think receiving TV via an antenna is "illegal!"

I guess i see it differently. Not knowing about YTTV is simply a matter of not being told. Thinking OTA is "illegal" is mostly a matter of being trained for the past quarter century or longer that TV is "normally" received via a paid subscription. Both situations can be resolved through education.

 

[mwdxer1]

I guess i see it differently. Not knowing about YTTV is simply a matter of not being told. Thinking OTA is "illegal" is mostly a matter of being trained for the past quarter century or longer that TV is "normally" received via a paid subscription. Both situations can be resolved through education.

For years having my big satellite dish, people would stop and tell me that they thought getting satellite signals was illegal. Some people feel that even Ham antennas are illegal. Things people don't understand, they think they are wrong, illegal, or whatever.

 

[Nate Bargmann]

Fortunately, here in the middle US there seems to be more of a live and let live attitude. My ham antennas were never a problem when I lived in various towns. Now that I'm back out in the country no one is nearby to care!

 

[rvvaquero]

By the time that affordable broadband reaches everyone, streaming services will cost as much or more than cable/satellite does today. I believe that cable/satellite will remain viable for decades to come for those providers who are innovative enough to survive the next ten years. As The Pendulum Swings.

 

[NYDutch]

Last year there were two Spectrum techs at our upstate NY family cottage repairing windstorm damage that took out our Internet only drop. The older fellow and I were standing near my dish discussing satellite use for RV's when the young fellow came over and started telling me my dish was illegal because Spectrum had an exclusive franchise with the town. He got really upset when the other fellow and I both started laughing...

 

[ekilgus]

By the time that affordable broadband reaches everyone, streaming services will cost as much or more than cable/satellite does today. I believe that cable/satellite will remain viable for decades to come for those providers who are innovative enough to survive the next ten years. As The Pendulum Swings.

I live in a pretty rural area and I currently have DSL ($39 a month) with a claimed download of 15mg, but during primetime streaming is pretty useless. My electric co op announced plans to install fiber over their poles for their entire service area providing tiered service from 100mg to 1gb+. Although at least a couple of years away, they already announced some prospective prices, $80 per month for the 100mg, and up for the higher service. I'll bet that's a conservative amount.

 

[comfortably_numb]

I live in a pretty rural area and I currently have DSL ($39 a month) with a claimed download of 15mg, but during primetime streaming is pretty useless. My electric co op announced plans to install fiber over their poles for their entire service area providing tiered service from 100mg to 1gb+. Although at least a couple of years away, they already announced some prospective prices, $80 per month for the 100mg, and up for the higher service. I'll bet that's a conservative amount.

I, too live in a rural area and I pay for 50/10 DSL, but I have never noticed any slowdowns during primetime. I wonder if your provider is using a smaller pipe? I get a full 50 even around 8 PM.

 

[ekilgus]

I, too live in a rural area and I pay for 50/10 DSL, but I have never noticed any slowdowns during primetime. I wonder if your provider is using a smaller pipe? I get a full 50 even around 8 PM.

They once sent a newsletter to all their subs explaining that when they began with DSL (2008) they never envisioned streaming. Consequently, they oversold to the point beyond existing capacity, and never indicated they had any plans for any upgrades. That's TDS (my phone company) for you.

I once read about something called VFAST, a DSL upgrade where they would run fiber along the road connecting to existing copper to the residences. The claimed improvement for doing this was anywhere from 25 to 100mg speed depending on how long the copper run was. They're not going to do this either.

 

[navychop]

They probably have put a lot on pause while waiting to see if the LEO and MEO Internet services make it.


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[comfortably_numb]

They once sent a newsletter to all their subs explaining that when they began with DSL (2008) they never envisioned streaming. Consequently, they oversold to the point beyond existing capacity, and never indicated they had any plans for any upgrades. That's TDS (my phone company) for you.

I once read about something called VFAST, a DSL upgrade where they would run fiber along the road connecting to existing copper to the residences. The claimed improvement for doing this was anywhere from 25 to 100mg speed depending on how long the copper run was. They're not going to do this either.

The technology they're using in my town is VDSL, and I've seen upload bursts as fast as 125 mbps, but at my distance from the central office they can only get me a maximum of 59 mbps down. But since 59 mbps isn't part of a plan offering, they cap me at 50

 

[comfortably_numb]

They probably have put a lot on pause while waiting to see if the LEO and MEO Internet services make it.


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Any updates on when these services are expected to launch? I haven't heard any news in awhile.