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mdonnelly said:
And we must never close our eyes and pretend that racism doesn't exist. These decisions need to be examined beyond the explanations given in public by the decision makers. The NCAA does need to be involved in the process when there is such a great disparity in the number of minority coaches in college football, and qualified minority coaches are being passed over for positions at major programs.

We'll know that we've achieved a milestone in race relations when a minority coach can be hired and fired without race entering the discussion. We're not there yet.
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Well said, and I agree that we shouldnt close our eyes to racism, however we also shouldnt create it where there might not be any.
 
msmith198025 said:
Well said, and I agree that we shouldnt close our eyes to racism, however we also shouldnt create it where there might not be any.
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AH...there is the magical word...."MIGHT". Seen, sometimes, IF you don't raise a stink....something might get over looked simply because we "assume" everyone NOW hires the best qualified candidate....and though racism is sports has gotten better, it still shows its face just when things seem to have gotten better.
I still have people questiong if a black QB can be a successful QB in the NFL....:confused:
 
mdonnelly said:
These decisions need to be examined beyond the explanations given in public by the decision makers. The NCAA does need to be involved in the process when there is such a great disparity in the number of minority coaches in college football, and qualified minority coaches are being passed over for positions at major programs.
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The only thing the NCAA could do would be to institute something like the NFL has, the Rooney Rule. This requires teams with head coaching vacancies interview at least one minority candidate. But, that rule wasn't needed here because there were two minority coaches interviewed.

Mike Tomlin is probably the best example of how that has worked. But, there is also the negative side of a mandated interview with a minority candidate when a team has essentially made up their mind on a known commodity. Just look at the talk about Schottenheimer to the Browns. He's probably the odds-on favorite to get the job, but the Browns would have to interview minority candidates anyway.

Like I said in an earlier post yesterday:

Hiring someone is obviously a subjective decision. You would hope that with millions of dollars and possibly their jobs and at stake, Auburn's administration would make their decision with the school's best interest at heart. Did they make a bad decision?? Time will tell. Did they make a racist decision?? I doubt it.
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rey_1178 said:
i'd say warren moon was a pretty damn good qb don't you think?
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"Despite his collegiate success, Warren Moon went undrafted in the National Football League. Many pundits believe that it was because Moon was black and refused to switch positions - Moon has stated in interviews that before the draft some scouts advised him to switch to tight end. With no takers in the NFL, his only alternative was the Canadian Football League. ..."
 
HD MM said:
So Auburn hired a guy based on what he did 4 years ago?

Look, I don't know if race was a factor in this decision or not, but this is getting attention not because it happened to an southern team, but because they hired a guy on a 10 game losing streak instead of other more qualified candidates. If Auburn hired Mike Leach, this would've never gotten as much attention as it's getting now.

And because the choice of Chizik was so unexplainable, Charles and others are looking into alternative motives for/against the hire as an explanation.
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Yes
 
salsadancer7 said:
Geez dude....Your killing me with this crap...did you want him to make them a winner INSTANTLY, the moment he step on campus??!! BO did not inheret a team that wasn't even competing in Division I football. Gil went 2-10 with SOMEONE ELSE'S players.....5-7 with some of the remnants of someone else's recruiting and some his and then 8-5 with alot more of HIS recruits. He HAS SHOWN "consistency" by improving record every year he has been head coach.:rolleyes:

It kills me that everyone bitches about "smaller conference do no get their fair shake.......and here is a guy that was ALSO an assistant coach at Nebraska...a major program...was given a a chance to be a head coach...showed GREAT improvement every year...and yet, he is NOT ready??!!
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WoW! I think we finally found someone who is qualified to debate that "knucklehead" Charles Barkley!:eek:

Salsa, if you wish to hire a Head Coach with a track record of 15-22, so be it. I would not! I cannot dumb-down my statement any further, so I hope you can finally understand. If not, your approval of my decision couldn't possibly mean less to me. I already have full knowledge of Coach Turner's knowledge, skills and ability as a head coach, and your hissy-fit will not persuade nor dissuade how I view Coach Turner's performance. I do not feel he is ready to assume the Auburn position. It's ironic how people who disagree with you are bitching, while people who share your views provide valid insight? Believe what you wish...and have another beer with your drinking buddy Chris Chelios.:rolleyes:

As I mentioned before, the MAC and other smaller conference football programs have provided a perfect environment to develop coaches who, eventually, step-up to the national level. Just to reiterate, I would not hire the CEO of a major corporation if the individual has only three years of experience leading a medium-sized company...that just happened to lose money 2 of the past 3 years. That would be assinine, and the Board of Directors would have my head! Sorry Chumley, but we will just have to agree to disagree since our standards for quality and excellence are very different.;)

Congrats to Coach Turner for his first, and only, winning season! Perhaps in another 3-5 years he can develop into a quality head coach.:up
 
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