2011-12 NFL Season

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

Fell into their lap?? Elway was drafted by the Colts and he forced them to trade him or he said he would play baseball instead (Yankees). The Broncos worked out a trade with the Colts...

As far as the Broncos fans were concerned,he fell into their laps.

 

[cosmo_kramer]

As far as the Broncos fans were concerned,he fell into their laps.

Following that 'logic', then every fan should feel that way about every player their team gets, no matter how they get him, right??

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

If the Indianapolis Colts or the Minnesota Vikings had a chance to draft Andrew Luck & they didn't take it,they traded the pick away,their fan base will NEVER forgive them,especially if Andrew Luck does turn into a franchise QB for a team other than theirs.

 

[Rey]

I would keep Ponder and see if I can get AT LEAST a #1 and a couple of #2s out of someone for Luck.

except for his first start,what else have you seen from ponder that would convince the vikings he's their QB?

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

Following that 'logic', then every fan should feel that way about every player their team gets, no matter how they get him, right??

Trust me,I was in Denver when they got John Elway. They don't care how they got him,they were just happy that they did. Unlike how Broncos fans reacted when the Broncos drafted Tim Tebow,with initial shock,disbelief,& "WTF?",they were "dancing in the street" over getting John Elway.

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

Unless the Colts do something stupid like say,win another game,this whole argument about whether to keep the number one draft pick & get Andrew Luck or trade it away will be moot. That is unless someone wants to start the argument that the Colts could keep Dan Orlovsky as their QB(assuming Peyton doesn't come back) & trade the pick for a #1 & a couple of #2's.

 

[cosmo_kramer]

Trust me,I was in Denver when they got John Elway. They don't care how they got him,they were just happy that they did. Unlike how Broncos fans reacted when the Broncos drafted Tim Tebow,with initial shock,disbelief,& "WTF?",they were "dancing in the street" over getting John Elway.

Now you're comparing Elway with Tebow?? OK, I'm done...

 

[cosmo_kramer]

Unless the Colts do something stupid like say,win another game,this whole argument about whether to keep the number one draft pick & get Andrew Luck or trade it away will be moot. That is unless someone wants to start the argument that the Colts could keep Dan Orlovsky as their QB(assuming Peyton doesn't come back) & trade the pick for a #1 & a couple of #2's.

Check please!!

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

I'm still not sold on Sam Bradford as QB. Detroit Lions fans will disagree with me,but I still feel like the Rams should have drafted Ndamukong Suh over Bradford,& then they still could get Andrew Luck with their draft pick if they ended up with the number one overall pick.

 

[Mr Tony]

except for his first start,what else have you seen from ponder that would convince the vikings he's their QB?

that he can throw some nice INT's

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

Now you're comparing Elway with Tebow?? OK, I'm done...

I'm comparing the fan reaction on the day when the Broncos got Elway(VE Day,VJ Day,liberation of Paris,yes I'm going there),versus the total shock & initial disbelief when they drafted Tebow. It was a complete 180 of the reaction to Elway.

 

[Jimbo]

If the Indianapolis Colts or the Minnesota Vikings had a chance to draft Andrew Luck & they didn't take it,they traded the pick away,their fan base will NEVER forgive them,especially if Andrew Luck does turn into a franchise QB for a team other than theirs.

What if he turns out to be Ryan Leaf ?

 

[Jimbo]

Unless the Colts do something stupid like say,win another game,this whole argument about whether to keep the number one draft pick & get Andrew Luck or trade it away will be moot. That is unless someone wants to start the argument that the Colts could keep Dan Orlovsky as their QB(assuming Peyton doesn't come back) & trade the pick for a #1 & a couple of #2's.

Theres still talk that the Colts with the #1 pick will NOT take Luck and that Manning would leave.

 

[Jimbo]

I'm still not sold on Sam Bradford as QB. Detroit Lions fans will disagree with me,but I still feel like the Rams should have drafted Ndamukong Suh over Bradford,& then they still could get Andrew Luck with their draft pick if they ended up with the number one overall pick.

Remember, SUH wasn't the only BIG name at the time, threre was debate on Suh over another Tackle DL, I can't remember who it was now.
So Suh was not the obvious choice when he came up.

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

Theres still talk that the Colts with the #1 pick will NOT take Luck and that Manning would leave.

Then the Colts deserve whatever they get.

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

Remember, SUH wasn't the only BIG name at the time, threre was debate on Suh over another Tackle DL, I can't remember who it was now.
So Suh was not the obvious choice when he came up.

Gerald McCoy

 

[Jimbo]

Gerald McCoy

Thank you.

What is he doing now ?

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

What if he turns out to be Ryan Leaf ?

Yeah,but Luck has his head screwed on right,unlike Leaf.

ditto

 

[Jimbo]

Leaf was fine till he got into the limelight of the NFL.

 

[Bodo Fenrirsson]

Thank you.

What is he doing now ?

He's playing for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,but he's injured for the season this year. That's why the Buc's picked up Albert Haynesworth.