2011-12 NFL Season

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I would have thought that Vince Young would have been a better fit for the Dolphins if they kept playing the Wildcat,but even though Kyle Orton seems vanilla bland compared to the personality of Tim Tebow,he is a very good passer,& I think he would fit the Dolphins very well.
i would've liked young too. despite some of his issues he's got talent. i don't know what to really think of some of these moves miami is making. bush who i called a bust since his first season in the NFL is now in miami in a 2 year deal. i still think he's a bust. for being the #2 pick in the first round and not reaching expectations. drafted later in the 2nd or later rounds i wouldn't be saying that. and now orton which is not a done deal yet. how much better will we be with these guys??? lets pick up another WR, a good one and maybe we'll be competitive again.
 
Albert Haynesworth going to New England ...... for a 5th rd pick in 2013
Only 5 Million, the Redskins will pick up the rest
yep heard that this morning a little after 6am. damn!! if bill gets this guy playing to his potential the afc east will be in even bigger trouble
 
I have a strnage feeling that this move HAD to be done because they are getting NO WHERE in the Orton trade because I think Denver just refuses to give him up for anything less than a 3rd pick.

...not a Dolphin fan living in Miami, but you can clearly hear AND see, "the natives are getting restless"...

Speculation is that it's a done deal between teams, it's the money and terms Kyle wants from the Fins that is keeping it from getting done.
 
The Patriots play a lot of 4-3. Did it last year and had Wilfork playing end. Now you can play 4-3 in Nickle and put Haynesworth and WILFORK in the middle. For a 2013 5th round pick this move could be great, if Albert gets his head out of his ass and wants to work and play hard. It is all up to him.
i think its going to work out. the pats move a lot of guys around in their defense. they WILL make it work . not a good thing for the rest of us. not that miami can even compete with the jets or pats.
 
How confident are you in Tebow QBing your team full time?

If I were the Broncos,I'd keep Kyle Orton as a safety net at least for this season,then if Tebow blossoms,trade Kyle. If the trade for Orton falls through with the Dolphins,the Dolphins should go after Vince Young. He'd be a very safe aquisition as far as what they'd have to give up for him,or better yet,wait until the Titans cut him & then pick him up on waivers.
 
The Patriots play a lot of 4-3. Did it last year and had Wilfork playing end. Now you can play 4-3 in Nickle and put Haynesworth and WILFORK in the middle. For a 2013 5th round pick this move could be great, if Albert gets his head out of his ass and wants to work and play hard. It is all up to him.

I bet Haynesworth, if healthy, will have a TN Titan type year on the Pats.
 
Orton doesn't excite you? Get over it

Kyle Orton would upgrade Miami Dolphins - South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com

So Kyle Orton wouldn't excite you as the new Dolphins quarterback? Well, take a number. That thought is nothing new around him. That's the running storyline of his career.

But do you really think there are a lot of NFL quarterbacks who had a 2:1 ratio of touchdowns to interceptions over a two-year stretch and got run out of town for an unproven replacement?

Well, there aren't.

You could fit all of them over the last two decades in a two-man canoe, as near as I can find. There's Drew Brees, who was dumped by San Diego in part because he also suffered a career-threatening injury with Philip Rivers waiting.

Now there's Orton. He threw 41 touchdowns and 21 interceptions over the last two years (OK, not exactly a 2:1 ratio) even while the Denver franchise disintegrated around him. And now Tim Tebow is the flavor of the day there.

If you believe the numbers – and that's not the option most Dolphins fans are choosing today – this franchise is on the verge of getting a quarterback with the best credentials since you-know-who retired. And, no, not Chad Pennington.

That's not hype typing. That's not hope and twisted numbers talking. That's not some coach's smoke rising, such as when Dave Wannstedt lit a celebratory cigar after getting Jay Fiedler.

That's using the kind of simple arithmetic that douses most arguments of emotion.

In fact, Orton's touchdown-to-interception ratio is better than any Dolphins quarterback since Dan Marino had his iconic 68 touchdowns and 23 interceptions in the first two years of his career.

Wait just a second. Let me re-run the numbers. They can't be right considering all the adjectives people keep attaching to Orton. Boring. Losing. Just darned unexciting. Does that about sum it up?

But the numbers remain on second look. They're constant, confounding and confidently suggesting the Dolphins might just have something better in Orton, at 28, than the average quarterback he's been over his full career.

Even Pennington, who became the Dolphins' patron saint of quarterbacks falling out of the sky, didn't arrive in 2008 with the kind of numerical track record of Orton's past two seasons.

Let's not overdo it. Orton isn't a Top 10 quarterback in the league. He didn't prop up Denver the way Marino did some bad teams. He couldn't be expected to throw a team to the Super Bowl the way today's game nearly demands quarterbacks to do.

But when you look at the option of Chad Henne and when you study the decisions other teams are making in these strange days, you'd have to agree lots of teams did much worse.

Minnesota, for instance, with an almost -35-year-old Donovan McNabb.

Arizona, if it takes unproven Kevin Kolb.

Washington, if it's banking on unknown John Beck.

Orton trumps any of those scenarios. He won't step in and make this team a full-fledged contender. But he does give it credible post-season hope. That's a step up, isn't it?

You don't have to applaud. You don't even have to like Orton, if you want. Again, he's used to it. But his former and future teammate, Brandon Marshall, is on board with this, which only adds to the hope here.

As long as the trade compensation and money deal isn't crazy, the biggest question of this deal isn't to the Dolphins. It's to Denver. What is it thinking? That Denver's air inflated Orton's numbers?

Orton dealt with a mid-season coaching change, the specter of Tebow, the 26th-ranked rushing game and league's worst defense and remained a beacon of respectability with 20 touchdowns and nine interceptions last year.

You know the last Dolphins quarterback to throw for 20 touchdowns? Jay Fiedler in 2001. He threw 19 interceptions then, too.

Orton isn't Aaron Rodgers. You can yell and scream about that if you want. Or you can look at his numbers and say the Dolphins finally are on the verge of getting a real quarterback.
 
Interesting info tweeted today concerning Nnamdi...

Michael Lombardi from NFL.COM via Twitter
"Hearing Houston has moved into the lead for Nnamdi Asomugha—money will be in the 12-14 mill per year range...Revis makes 11.5 per year."

Then ESPN's Paul Kuharsky, on Twitter, pointed out that Houston has no state Income tax, which makes any offer they propose a little sweeter


Hmmmm...interesting how the no state income tax comes to play in all these professional athletes contracts.....:cool:
 
How confident are you in Tebow QBing your team full time?

Not really.

If I were the Broncos,I'd keep Kyle Orton as a safety net at least for this season,then if Tebow blossoms,trade Kyle. If the trade for Orton falls through with the Dolphins,the Dolphins should go after Vince Young. He'd be a very safe aquisition as far as what they'd have to give up for him,or better yet,wait until the Titans cut him & then pick him up on waivers.

Kyle doesn't want to be a backup. PLus, we dump his salary cap number, and "hopefully" getting something good in return.

Kyle Orton would upgrade Miami Dolphins - South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com

So Kyle Orton wouldn't excite you as the new Dolphins quarterback? Well, take a number. That thought is nothing new around him. That's the running storyline of his career.

I think Kyle is a good quarterback, but he doesn't excite people, and around here, after Elway, PLummer, Cutler and in comes Tebow, people want to get rid of Orton. I'd rather keep him.
 
The Arizona Cardinals have completed their deal with the Philadelphia Eagles to get quarterback Kevin Kolb, sources told ESPN.com senior NFL writer John Clayton.

Kolb will get a new contract extension of five years for $63 million, with a little more than $22 million guaranteed. Kolb will be under contract for six years.

The Eagles receive cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and a second-round pick.

Arizona Cardinals complete trade for Philadelphia Eagles' Kevin Kolb, sources say - ESPN
 
Not really.



Kyle doesn't want to be a backup. PLus, we dump his salary cap number, and "hopefully" getting something good in return.



I think Kyle is a good quarterback, but he doesn't excite people, and around here, after Elway, PLummer, Cutler and in comes Tebow, people want to get rid of Orton. I'd rather keep him.
trade talks on hold for now :( broncos want what they want. i understand. after looking at his numbers today in detail he's better than what we got. i want him. hell i'll take young over henne. released today. LETS GO!!!
 
Albert Haynesworth going to New England ...... for a 5th rd pick in 2013...

BREAKING NEWS: Patriots have acquired Chad Ochocinco after he accepted a restructured 3-year contract, a source said...

If I wrote for The Onion, I think I'd be working on something along the lines of:

Murdock wiretap reveals that Dan Snyder secretly swapped franchises with Bob Kraft yesterday
 
Let's totally throw a wrench in the works. Let's keep Kyle Orton,trade Tim Tebow to the Dolphins,& devote the 2011 season to drafting Andrew Luck in the 2012 draft(I really believe that is who Stanford alumn John Elway REALLY wants).
 
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